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Is it worth trying for a place at Redland Green School?

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Brainwracked · 22/09/2010 13:42

We are moving to the Bristol area and can't decide between Redland Green and Backwell Schools. Is it worth makig the effort to get our DD into Redland Green? We would have to pay through the nose to rent a house within 700 metres of the school and although we would love to live there, chances are we wouldn't get a place at the school anyway since we won't be moving until March or April. I think Backwell School is good for performing arts, which is DD's main interest, but we worry about becoming isolated in a small community and having to commute a lot to Bristol. Can anyone share experience of this?

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beccagrace2 · 25/09/2010 20:31

gosh, is it safe to go to cabbots? sounds rough does bristol!! Grin

HooNose · 25/09/2010 20:33

LOL I must admit you are painting a very grey picture of Bristol! Please tell me you don't work for the local tourist board. Grin

PosieParker · 25/09/2010 20:33

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PosieParker · 25/09/2010 20:59

Just reread my last post and would like to ensure my comment has come across in the way intended....I was responding to this thread's implications and not my own personal view upon divisions in society.

Ninjacat · 26/09/2010 01:23

to be honest posie you just sound a bit thick with no understanding of Bristols' history.
Hey but I'm a bit drunk so will step away from the computer.

inveteratenamechanger · 26/09/2010 08:04

Good lord!

Posie: 'most people on my street work their arses off and pay through the nose for houses they can just about afford to get into nice schools...'

NB most people on my street work their arses off and pay through the nose for houses they can just about afford - the difference is that the average house price in my area is about £150,000 and that we are nowhere near a 'nice' (ugh) school. That is the maximum the vast majority of people can afford.

Shock at the idea that your children would be like 'soldiers' if you sent them to school in a poorer part of town. What do you think these schools are like?!

And your comment about mixing in Easton and St. Pauls is just ignorant and confirms my suspicion that you never set foot in these areas of town and don't have a clue what they are really like.

PosieParker · 26/09/2010 08:33

I didn't say they would be like soldiers if they went to a different school, I asked why I would want my children to be subjected to rougher elements? Who would?

I was referring to the tone of the thread and not my assumptions when I talked of mixing. Although walking/driving through these areas you don't see large groups of 'mixed' people....

PosieParker · 26/09/2010 08:43

I can't be bothered with this thread, seems to me you have to pretend that all is equal with regard to schools, and it's not and for some reason it's not okay to want your children to go to the best school possible because that's unfair on others. Well life isn't fair.

Interesting that none of you are bitching at people that send their children private.

bratnav · 26/09/2010 09:15

That was not the issue raised Posie. I have read the thread but won't comment further as I've been up for 48 hours and my brain is a little scrambled.

Oh but, 'rougher elements'?????? These are PEOPLE you are talking about :( Right, back to my labouring woman.

PosieParker · 26/09/2010 09:15

But Bratnav why did choose to move where you've moved?

HooNose · 26/09/2010 09:27

I would give up if I were you Posie. I think there are people on this thread deliberately misunderstanding you. Just reading the comments brings to my mind the words "head" and "brick wall". If the response you are getting is in any way representative of the citizens of Bristol, I am glad I opted (shock, yes, I was able to choose Hmm) to live out in the sticks.

bratnav · 26/09/2010 09:27

Because we agreed joint residency for DSD. We had to be close to the school she was/is at so my DDs could go to the same school. It was the only practical way it would work. Believe me if I was given the choice I would be in any area where I don't have to pay £1k plus rent a month, regardless of how 'nice' the schools are.

I'm sure we had this conversation before but hey ho.

bratnav · 26/09/2010 09:29

Because we agreed joint residency for DSD. We had to be close to the school she was/is at so my DDs could go to the same school. It was the only practical way it would work. Believe me if I was given the choice I would be in any area where I don't have to pay £1k plus rent a month, regardless of how 'nice' the schools are.

I'm sure we had this conversation before but hey ho.

LilyBolero · 26/09/2010 09:30

Some of the language on this thread has been clumsy, but I think it's absolutely normal to try and choose the best school for your child - for example, I don't think ds1 and dd will go to the same school, because I think dd needs to be in a single sex environment (with 3 brothers I think she would really benefit from this). This doesn't mean I think all boys are the devil incarnate, or I want to 'keep her away from the nasty boys', it's just that I think she will flourish best in an all girls environment. If we can achieve that (which is a big if).

I do understand where some of the posters are coming from - my ideal school has a mix of cultures/backgrounds etc, and we chose the children's primary partly on this basis - they have a very rich cultural education as a result, as they have children that celebrate Diwali, Eid, Hannukah (sp?) etc etc. There are children from better off families, children from very poor families. But no child is isolated as far as I can see. And it would worry me for a child to go to a school where they were the ONLY child from their sort of background, or their culture, or their academic level (particularly the last one), as I don't think that would be in the child's best interests.

Bristol is a very segregated city really - there are always exceptions, but you can't deny that if you go into Easton there is a majority of one ethnic group, the same in St Pauls and the same in Southmead. I don't know the reason behind this segregation, but it exists. I spend a fair amount of time in Easton, in and around the St Marks Road area, and I love it, I love the shops, the kids love the parks, but you can't pretend it is a visibly 'multi-cultural' area. It's not racist to notice that.

Back to the OP - to get into Redland Green you have to live horribly close. If we weren't tied up so much with city jobs, we would consider moving out to Backwell or Churchill, both of which are more rural without being totally isolated.

sarah293 · 26/09/2010 09:43

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LilyBolero · 26/09/2010 09:47

Riven, why will they insist on Redland Green not MET - they're both in the same LEA aren't they? And given the over-subscription of RG, it would seem crazy to insist on that!

Ninjacat · 26/09/2010 09:49

Your middle england protectionism is all well and good for you but it's not a value system I adhere to therefore I can not be bothered to continue on this thread as I just find your warblings distasteful.

You will all be very happy under our lovely conservative government. Maybe they will let you start your own school for the poor disadvantaged middle class precious' before the kids all have to move home in an effort just to fit in?

Sounds like you belong in Kent, not Bristol.

LilyBolero · 26/09/2010 09:52

was that aimed at me ninjacat?

sarah293 · 26/09/2010 10:05

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ilovemydogandMrObama · 26/09/2010 10:10

The assumption is that schools in white middle class areas are somehow better isn't exactly true. Also the assumption that living in a middle class, expensive area automatically means access to local schools isn't exactly true either. Bristol schools are hugely over subscribed and DD's school (not quite in Easton) had 3 applications for every place.

There are some really outstanding schools out of the Bishopston, Henleaze, Westbury catchment areas.

As far as social problems in St Pauls and Easton. It's true that St Pauls has a reputation for being a violent area stemming from drugs. Easton in the past few years has really turned into a vibrant ethnic area where there's a mosque and a church on the same street and people integrate. A friend of mine commented that it's turning into Notting Hill.

It's interesting that people are discussing where they chose to live in Bristol. My partner is from the area, and it's his home. Personally, I wouldn't move to Horfield, Bishopston as I like the proximity of the local train station (Stapleton) and access to main line train service to London and the cycle path. There's the Chocolate Factory that is being regenerated into a plaza, cycle houses plus the school with its new building plans.

As far as the 'rougher elements' phrase. I'd like to address this as it's so incredibly offensive for a number of reasons, namely as it's a generality. Address the issue, such as 'drug problem,' or whatever. yes, Stapleton Road does have more of a problem with drugs and violent crime (related) than for instance some areas of Clifton. However, there was a drug related shooting in Stoke Bishop a few years ago, so the idea that if one lives in a white area, one is immune, isn't true. And if you think that student flats in Clifton aren't full of drugs, then you are kidding yourself.

But the idea that these issues are imported to schools isn't quite true. My DD's class is balanced; boys/girls, summer born/winter born, ethnic profile. My DD is totally color blind. She asked if we celebrated Eid. She is happy to talk to her friends at school about Ramadan, Hindu holidays and Christmas. It's what the UK looks like rather than some homogenous white landscape.

inveteratenamechanger · 26/09/2010 10:11

LilyBolero "you can't deny that if you go into Easton there is a majority of one ethnic group"

Yes - there is a majority of white British people! According to the most recent figures available, over 75% of residents of Easton were white.

It is a common misconception to see a multi-ethnic area and assume that there is an overwhelming majority of minority ethnic groups. In fact, it is almost always the case that white people are in the majority.

inveteratenamechanger · 26/09/2010 10:13

x posts with Ilovemydog - excellent post, I couldn't agree more.

HooNose · 26/09/2010 10:21

FYI:Ethnicity of UK

sarah293 · 26/09/2010 10:24

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