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teafortwo · 24/09/2008 15:23

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Soph73 · 10/02/2009 10:31

It's weird isn't it. My Dad lives in Bahrain and when I spoke to him on Sunday it was raining!

Watching those fires on the telly is really shocking. Sibble - one of the worst things about living in Hong Kong was the humidity, although it never got to 100% when I was out there, thankfully.

I didn't realise Europe was in for strong winds though. It's completely still here today. I'm staring out through the Library window & it's really quite sunny. Hopefully our weather's changing for the better as we've certainly had some cr+++y weather recently.

TheMadHouse · 15/02/2009 08:42

Good morning FOOCS

FOOC N Yorkshire

On the subject of weather, we have gone from 4 inches of snow on Thuesday afternoon, to 5 degrees at the moment. It is mild, really odd actually. I dont mind the cold, it is great to wrap up warm with the boys and walk along the beech, its the wet that I hate.

I have found all the news of the fires really upsetting too and have not really watched the news for a good few weeks.

I am currently being thankful for the NHS. DS2 (2.7) has just been diagnosed as being very long sighted and needs to wear glasses, which we picked up on Wedensday. We didnt pay for them and they are not like the HNS spec of my youth (no blue of pink frames in sight) and have already been back twice to have them refitted and repaired We will also get quarterly eye tests free and new glasses very quarter if required.

He looks really georgous in the though (pic on profile)

Sibble · 15/02/2009 18:01

FOOC Auckland

Very cute themadhouse......

Nothing to report here really. We had 3 days of rain which broke the humidity (thank goodness), filled our water tanks and watered the garden etc.....I'm rarely glad to see rain but it was a welcome relief. Sun back again now and all is well.

We went to the polo finals yesterday. We're not 'into' polo as such but polo is a huge local event so off we went with friends, the ds's, picnic, wine etc..........Sponsored by porsche it was a rather mixed event - the beautiful and VERY rich in corporate, the normal and locals in the peasant viewing (perched on a bank on blankets etc) and wannabes getting progressively more drunk just hanging around. The sun shone, the horses thundered and were amazing, a few novelties i.e. porsche v horse racing (the porsche won although I think the horse would have won over a slightly longer course), female running race for a magnum of champagne etc etc.......All in all a very civilized way to spend the day although dh did announce we should go corporate, get a babysitter and cab next year

Cies · 15/02/2009 21:12

FOOC Galicia

Weather report - we have had a glorious high these last few days, bringing clear blue skies and temperatures up to 15 C. Most of the ground has now dried up after the constant rain and wind of the previous fortnight.

Animal report

Spain is not famed for its friendliness to animals, with its national sport of bullfighting and the omnipresent festivals involving throwing, chasing or teasing goats.

Pets don't generally fare very well either. Many are abandoned when they become too much for their owners, often before the summer holidays so as not to have to pay for kennels or adapt their plans to suit pet-ownership. Driving through the countryside you can regularly see packs of skeletal hounds, nosing around the rubbish, barking at passing cars and trying to scavenge a meal any way they can. The unlucky ones end up squashed at the side of the road. The lucky ones are taken to la protectora, or abandoned dogs home.

This is where DH and I headed when we finally made the decision to acquire a dog. I had put it off for a long time, claiming that dogs and flats don't mix, but eventually my desire to have a pet overcame my misgivings. We swore it would be the start of a healthier life, as we would have to commit ourselves to thrice daily walks at least, to let the creature do its business.

I've never been to a pound in the UK, but I imagine the smell is similar to the one we arrived at. The stench of hundreds of dogs all crowded together is impossible to imagine. We were met by my friend P who is a vet at the protectora. She took us into a small, windowless room, a little like a garage, where the elderly owner spent our entire visit harranging various journalists, potential dog-adopters and local politicians on the phone about animal rights.

My friend P had confided in me beforehand that she had a favourite. Would we like to see her? "Sara" was brought into the room. A small, long-haired beagle-cross-griffon. Very shy. She skulked around the room, not daring to approach at first, but then coming nearer and nearer, until we could stroke her and tickle her tummy. It was love at first sight for me! The poor thing stank of pee, poo, dog etc. Putting her in the car I was thankful we'd had the foresight to bring an old sheet along to cover the seats.

In her first day at home, we were like the parents of a PFB. "Has she peed yet?" "What's she doing?" "No, I'll pick up the poo, I don't mind!". She was very shy, sticking to her bed unless we physically lifted her up and carried her somewhere else. But she's gained confidence, and today went for a run on the beach and a walk in the countryside off the lead.

The people at the protectora had so many tales of cruelty and abandonment to tell. Sara's start in life is unknown, but they suspect she was kept as a hunting dog but proved useless at hunting and so was abandoned. We hope to give her a much brighter future though.

CoteDAzur · 16/02/2009 13:50

FOOC Principality of Monaco

Lovely sunny weather in Monaco today. After DD's school in the morning, we had lunch on the beach where she had a great time on her 'big girl bicycle'.

We are looking for a new apartment and I am surprised to see how badly Monaco's real estate market has been affected by the global economic crisis. Apartments that used to rent for EUR 20,000 per month are now all empty because the ultra rich they cater to are gone. There are more apartments available than ever in all segments of the market because apartments that don't sell are coming into the rental market. And for the first time in living memory, negotiation is possible

Another sign of doom is the recent trend of restaurants advertising the price of their menus on buses and in the local paper. All very new for Monaco, where previously you would think most residents had unlimited finanfial resources.

CoteDAzur · 16/02/2009 13:50

FOOC Principality of Monaco

Lovely sunny weather in Monaco today. After DD's school in the morning, we had lunch on the beach where she had a great time on her 'big girl bicycle'.

We are looking for a new apartment and I am surprised to see how badly Monaco's real estate market has been affected by the global economic crisis. Apartments that used to rent for EUR 20,000 per month are now all empty because the ultra rich they cater to are gone. There are more apartments available than ever in all segments of the market because apartments that don't sell are coming into the rental market. And for the first time in living memory, negotiation is possible

Another sign of doom is the recent trend of restaurants advertising the price of their menus on buses and in the local paper. All very new for Monaco, where previously you would think most residents had unlimited finanfial resources.

CoteDAzur · 16/02/2009 13:51

FOOC Principality of Monaco

Lovely sunny weather in Monaco today. After DD's school in the morning, we had lunch on the beach where she had a great time on her 'big girl bicycle'.

We are looking for a new apartment and I am surprised to see how badly Monaco's real estate market has been affected by the global economic crisis. Apartments that used to rent for EUR 20,000 per month are now all empty because the ultra rich they cater to are gone. There are more apartments available than ever in all segments of the market because apartments that don't sell are coming into the rental market. And for the first time in living memory, negotiation is possible

Another sign of doom is the recent trend of restaurants advertising the price of their menus on buses and in the local paper. All very new for Monaco, where previously you would think most residents had unlimited finanfial resources.

Soph73 · 16/02/2009 15:12

FOOC Gran Canaria

Well the weather here is still very changeable - very warm one minute, blowing a gale & raining the next. I'm sure that's why everyone here is still full of some virus or other. I'm still trying to work out when it was I last felt well. DS2 is on antibiotics so has picked up over the weekend. It just keeps going round & round the family & is very wearing.

Cies - we are fortunate over here that we don't see many stray cats and dogs, although there are always casualties on the sides of the roads There are a couple of rescue places on the island but don't know what state of repair they are in. They aren't run by Spaniards though. We inherited a cat when we moved into our apartment and have been fortunate that we've never had to leave her in a cattery while we've been away. I'm definately not looking forward to the day when we have to do this though.

I'm in the process of gearing myself up to renewing my DS1's residencia & getting the first one for DS2. The process now is even more ridiculous than it was before. Now you have to go to the office to get a number 1 week before you go there to collect the papers. I really hate having to give up a couple of days during my holidays to do this. Why they couldn't have stuck to the old system I don't know & getting rid of the cards with your picture on is just ridiculous. You are now issued a piece of paper which none of the shops will recognise as ID because it doesn't have your picture on. Since this new system started operating there have been nothing but complaints as you need picture ID for everything over here

Sorry, rant over

MmeLindt · 18/02/2009 09:14

FOOC SWITZERLAND GENEVA weather
Well, we have had a bit of everything these past weeks. DH was on holiday last week as were the DC and the weather forecast was completely wrong every single day. We were supposed to be getting rain rain rain and we got sun sun sun

We planned our holiday, in true German fashion, on Sunday evening after consulting the weather forecast. Monday was to be sledging in the mountains and the rest of the week was to be indoors, one day at home, museum on Wednesday, Thursday to IKEA and swimming on Friday.

Since the weather was so beautiful we decided to change our plans so we had several days out and about, going for walks, getting the little yellow boats across the lake, having picnics in the park. It was glorious.

It is still chilly when the sun is away but warm enough to sit outside (with coats) and watch the DC play in the park.

Where are the German FOOCers, we need someone to report on Fasching/Karneval in Germany.

LouIsAHappyLittleVegemite · 18/02/2009 12:25

I don't normally post on FOOC as I am in the UK but I am off to Karveval in Cologne on Monday so if no one has updated by then I will! It will be my first time so I have no idea what to expect!

Soph73 · 18/02/2009 12:46

Have fun Louis

Gorionine · 19/02/2009 09:51

FOOC GREATER MANCHESTER

We are halfay through the half term break, the weather is very grey (nothing new there!).

MmeLindt, I was never a fan of carnaval, but I will miss the GuggenMusik! Is there a Carnaval in Geneva with it being a protestant canton? I cannot remeber. In Valais where my parents live and which is a catholic canton there are a few good ones.I seem to remember the the Basel and Lucern Karnevals were quite a thing! maybe it is not too far for you to go? It is from this Friday to Tuesday I think.

That is the one in my home town

and another one

I was having a sneaky look at your blog and laughed a lot at your DD' teeth story. DS2 has lost three teeth at the front and is now left with one tooth in the middle and a gap on each side, he looks quite scary and reminds me of an aunty we used to go and visit in Italy who had just one tooth left in the middle and was sort of "chewing"it all the time.

Gorionine · 19/02/2009 09:52

"and another one" is also from my home town.

MmeLindt · 19/02/2009 13:52

Gorionine
I have not heard anything about Karneval in Geneva yet, but I will see if anything is going on this weekend. lol at the teeth, that is the way DD is going. Feel free to check on the blog when you are feeling a bit homesick

To keep you all going until we get Louis's report from Karneval in Köln (OMG, do you really know what you are letting yourself in for?)

FOOC GERMANY

Today Germany is ruled by the women.

The start of the actual Karneval celebrations was always Thursday. At some point the women of Germany decided that the traditionally male dominated Karneval needed more feminine input.

All over Germany at 11.11am the women stormed the town halls and symbolically stole the keys of the town.

To prove that the women are in power today, the men must submit to having their ties cut off. The feral women of Germany are roming the streets, armed with scissors waiting for an unsuspecting man to come along. Once they cut the tie off, they sometimes pin the tie to their costume as a trophy. My parents came to visit me one year and my Dad borrowed a tie from DH so he could have it cut off. They did not even get out of the underground train station before it was gone.

We lived near Düsseldorf for 3 years which is in the Rheinland area of Germany. Rheinland basically closes down for Karneval. A lot of shops and business don't bother opening because none of the employees want to work, and there are not many customers anyway.

My first experience of Karneval in Rheinland was going to the bakers on Weiberfastnacht, at 7.30 am, waiting in the queue behind a grown man dressed as a teddy bear, in front of a lady wearing pyjamas. It is very surreal.

Many people spend days making very elaborate costumes, like this one.

The party started today at 11.11am and will go on, night and day until next Wednesday when, with a funeral procession, the Karneval will be buried and mourned for another year.

MmeLindt · 19/02/2009 13:54

This costume is the one I wanted to link to.

Cies · 21/02/2009 10:22

FOOC Galicia - Carnival

I've got a long weekend! There is no school on Monday or Tuesday for Carnival. And it's SUNNY!

Here los Carnavales mostly involve dressing up. Children dress up as superheroes. Teenagers wear boiler suits and carry water pistols and flour bombs. Adults cross-dress or wear masks of politicians. (Cies and Mr Cies hide at home because we don't like dressing up!)

There is of course a food element to this Carnival. Cocido- a stew of meat, chicken, chickpeas, cabbage and carrots fills you up with meat before Lent. Orejas and filloas give you your sweet fix. The former are crispy aniseed flavoured pancake things. The latter are basically pancakes, here mostly eaten cold and filled with cream or chocolate.

I´ll post later on to report on any extraordinary costumes we see.

Suedonim · 22/02/2009 14:06

FOOC Nigeria

It's been half term here and dd has had a really good time, having a sleepover and going bowling and to the cinema with friends. It's the first time she's been out without us - the first signs of teenagerdom, which arrives two weeks today! As ever, Nigeria throws out its oddities. Looking for the cafe at the new bowling alley the kids found themselves in a lounge. Someone told them to leave as it was a VIP area. Dd's friend asked how you got to be a VIP and was told he'd have to buy membership. 'How much is membership?' was the next question. 'Don't know' was the reply, 'Membership isn't available.'

I have also been out a lot, although I'm worrying whether I should have been socialising that much as I was diagnosed with typhoid on Friday. I could have caused a typhoid epidemic in Lagos!! I've had a bad tummy for a while but didn't think it was something like that. I now have 1G Augmentin to take - tablets the size of Stonehenge.

We will be moving in a couple of weeks time though no one has yet discussed the 'minor' details like how we're going to shift all our stuff or even exactly when this great event will happen. Our new place isn't as nice as this (we've been v lucky and spoilt living in such a posh place for two years) but it will do. My main challenge will be curtains. The new place has two windows in most rooms and any spare area of wall also seems to have had a window shoved in. The bathroom windows all have clear glass, right opposite the shower areas, lol!! We may have to make do with newspaper until we go home at Easter and I can buy cheapo stuff at Asda or similar.

Another small anecdote from yesterday. I wanted a vegetarian sandwich at a cafe but they best they could do was a ham and cheese club sandwich minus the ham. When it came, it literally was that; three pieces of bread with a slice of cheese between two of the pieces and absolutely nothing between the other two!

Gorionine · 23/02/2009 13:44

LOL@ the "empty" sandwich! Maybe I should consider moving to Nigeria in a bid to slim down a bit!

LouIsAHappyLittleVegemite · 24/02/2009 13:18

FOOC Germany

OMG Karneval!!!
Alaaf! Carmello!! (if thats how you spell it)
My first initiationinto Karneval was in Cologne and I don't think I will ever recover. It was amazing though. It seems as if the entire city is in costume, some simple and some that must have taken weeks to make. I myself went as a cowgirl. I have enough sweets and chocolate to last a lifetime. Flowers to fill the house and a new appreciation for German stamina. The parade was fantastic (very political which was a surprise) with marching bands and acrobatics. Two children were taken to hospital after being trmapled by a marching band. It is incredibly crowded and I was surprised as how organised the whole thing was. I was more shocked as how crazed people get over free food. I actually had things ripped from my hands. Anyway, I had a great time and cannto wait to do it again.

MmeLindt · 26/02/2009 07:06

FOOC GENEVA

We had a fab day in Chamonix yesterday. We went up on the little train to Montenvers and from there down the hill a bit with the cable car to the Mer de Glace glacier. It was stunning, a sea of bluegreen ice covered in snow. Every year they cut a grotto into the side of the glacier, it was incredible to walk inside the ice.

I will pop a couple of photos on the profile.

MmeLindt · 26/02/2009 07:07

Lou
Glad you enjoyed Karneval. Köln is the best place to experience Karneval in Germany, they are completely mad. Any Kölner who does not like Karneval has to move out for a week as the town is completly taken over.

TheMadHouse · 26/02/2009 08:05

Wow photo's are fab, looks like a stunning place and you are so lucky.

FOOC N Yorkshire

Just a quick post really as I am not going to be around for a week or so, as I go into hospital tomorrow for a radical double mastenctomy and reconstrution on the wonderful NHS of cource.

This thread makes me realise how lucky we are to have the service that we receive and all for free, well NIS contributions.

Anyone who is interested on how I am doing DH will post of the fly thread.

Will be back with an update in a week or so, hopefully all being well

Get busy writing, so I have lots to read during my recouperation

MmeLindt · 26/02/2009 09:28

Good luck, TMH, hope everything goes well. Will be crossing my fingers (and as the Germans press their thumbs, I will do that too)

Gorionine · 26/02/2009 13:30

Good luck, TheMadHouse. Hope to read you again soon.

MmeLindt, ! Real snow and ice! The pictures on your profile are fantastic, as usual!

MmeLindt · 26/02/2009 14:42

Gorionine
I hoped you would see them, hope I did not make you too homesick.