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German Corner

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finknottle · 15/02/2008 09:58

Deutsch or English
Native speakers, expats, anyone
From Brezeln to Bier

Please don't ask if you join in, everyone is welcome

For discussion of schools see separate thread

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SSSandy2 · 22/04/2008 10:26

No, I don't do it, our doc said it's not necessary in Berlin, it's southern Germany/Austria where they advise getting them. Mind you if there is anything at all horrible about, you can guarantee dd will get it!

Speaking of language, dd was trying out an American accent yesterday for some reason. Very strange I thought, don't know what brought that on but where we would say "sister" with stress on the first syllable, for instance, she was putting stress on the end and a strong "errr" sound. She had it down 100 percent, very convincing. Then this morning she was asking how she gets rid of the American accent again!

Thinking it might be because she goes to a couple of American-run activities. I noticed she'd picked up on some key vocab like candy, awesome and good job but hadn't heard her use the accent before.

admylin · 22/04/2008 10:31

And what about the new Impfung gegen Gebähmutterkrebs for girls? Have you thought about that one yet? I know 2 girls at dc's school who have older sisters (12 and 13) and they've had it.

We're at the Kieferorthopäde this afternoon, only going to continue with ds's for another 3 months then we're stopping, he has too many headaches and it really pulls his jaw too far forward. When we were at school hardly any one had braces and even some of the quite 'goofy' ones didn't but they all look OK nowadays. Ds is exactly like his dad so he'll turn out OK too.

SSSandy2 · 22/04/2008 10:36

We had one of those medieval torture instruments jaw expanders cemented in last week and dd was so utterly miserable with it, I went back and had it removed the next morning. Think we'll stick with crooked teeth, thanks very much. Maybe you do get a lovely smile at the end of it all but forcably widening the jaw just sounds so horrific. Maybe I'll regret it one day

Someone posted a link to a GErman paper reporting that girls had bad side effects or was it even that they died after that vaccination?(have to see if I can find it)

SSSandy2 · 22/04/2008 10:41

www.sueddeutsche.de/,tt6m1/wissen/artikel/499/155095/

ungeklärte Todesfälle nach der Impfung

admylin · 22/04/2008 10:48

Cemented in? Is she not a bit yound? What did they say when you asked for it out?

Oh, yes I remember hearing that too and the girls at dc's school had it done because their mothers had suffered cervical cancer in the past too.

Where are all the German mn'ers? Our German corner hasn't hit it off like the US and Italy threads has it! Is Finknottle coming back? Kindersurprise has been gone for ages too. Maybe life is so anstengend in Germany we all have lost the will to talk about it!

admylin · 22/04/2008 10:49

Ooops, young not yound!

SSSandy2 · 22/04/2008 10:52

They like to do it from about 4 I think the sooner the better. I don't understand why exactly. I suppose they cement it in for the initial phase so that it is less mucking about for the dp and the dc can't take it out. It was supposed to be cemented in place whilst the jaw was expanded and then left in place for 3 months after that they wanted to replace it with a brace you can take in and out.

Well what could they do if I said I wanted it out they had to remove it. The receptionist tried suggesting she'd get used to it but the orthodontist was very nice and removed it immediately, no problem at all. He asked me to come back in a couple of weeks to discuss what else he could try. I'll go to the appointment of course but I am not proceeding with any of this stuff

SSSandy2 · 22/04/2008 10:54

Kindersurprise is hopefully having too good a time to post and Ernest may well be giving birth - isn't she due anytime now?

Remember I posted about finknottle's friend? Sadly she has not recovered from her accident but died leaving 3 dc. Finknottle is obviously very upset and has been busy trying to help the family. She does sound like a lovely friend. Hope she feels up to returning to MN sometime.

taipo · 22/04/2008 12:55

I'm so sorry to hear about your friend, finknottle What an awful shock that must have been for you and for her family.

I'm still around but won't get much chance to come on here over the next couple of days because MIL is coming to visit. Actually I was very strong-willed this morning and didn't turn on the computer because I was madly trying to tidy the house. Still not finished but I need a break before I get down to helping dd with her homework. No rest for the wicked!

Lol, Sssandy at your dd saying her friend was a 'Sprechschachtel'.

taipo · 23/04/2008 14:02

Anyone around? I'm having a break while MIL has gone to a Grosselternnachmittag at ds's kindergarten?

Talking of the terrible German language, what words are there that you find impossible to pronounce. For me, it is 'Volkshochschule'. I just can't get my tongue around that one.

admylin · 23/04/2008 17:11

Hi taipo, how is it going with MIL? Where is she from? It's never easy having PIL to stay but it is greta for the dc isn't it - all the unconditional love and stuff

I wish my parents would come more often but although they are retired, they still have so many things booked like trips to Malaysia and singapore then at least twice a year to Crete and then another holiday (as if they haven't had enough holidays!) so Berlin gets a week at the most if we're lucky!

I have problems with the Ü in words sometimes and if I pronounce one wrong then ds sort of sighs and says can't you say it like this and then he repeats the word correctly.

3andnomore · 23/04/2008 20:05

admylin, Roderbruch wasn't so much a problem because of foreigners, more a general not so nice estate....but then, well, we live in Corby, which is basically just one bad town...so, am not judging or anything.
From what I remember there were lots of cementblock-flats...rather then the nice oldbuild kind....!I have no idea how bad the crimerate would be...but , then I find, crime can happen anyplace, anyway....
And lol at Sprech schachtel...bless her....

SSSandy...arsch huebsch...nice slang ....shudder... would also not be happy if my Kids would say htings like voll geil at that young age...

taipo....my dh always found the word Eichhoernchen really difficult...and funnily enough I have the same problem with squirrel...lol...

SSSandy2 · 24/04/2008 08:47

how are you coping with MIL taipo? You can guarantee whatever is the untidiest place in your home, she will find it. How do they manage it I wonder? I was out yesterday doing sport for a change and I am aching all over as a result this morning. I had to go to Lidl and buy a packet of their monster Florentiner to eat for breakfast, undo any damage the sport may have done to my flab depots.

Love pigging out on Florentiner. Aren't they yummy with all the nuts and chocolate?

Wondering if trockodile ever got her place in the German kindergarten and whether thequietone still has hers.

Isn't the weather fab at the moment? Spring at last. Love it!

I struggle with Ire/Irin for Irishman/woman. Always comes out irre - crazy.

admylin · 24/04/2008 09:01

Mmmm those lidl florentiner biscuits are lovely. The dc sometimes take one to school for their sweet snack with instructions to only eat it when the grapes, peppers, cucumber and sandwich have been eaten!

thequietone · 24/04/2008 09:12

God, sorry. Haven't been on here for aeons. My Kindergarten problems are all resolved (touch wood). My meeting tomorrow is cancelled as my DS has been moved to a smaller group of only 12 children, which are all his age. It's also only 3 days a week. Today's his second day there, and all going well so far.

I can't for the life of me now think why they didn't do this in the first place, back aroudn Easter. He's only just 3 and was struggling so much in a class of 25, all German and about 5-6 years old. The teachers complained on Monday that he didn't sit still after 5 minutes of the 20 minute (!) bible reading. He's THREE!!! What did they expect?

Anyway, I'm hoppity skippingly happy for him, and hope when I collect him at 12.00 he's going to get a good report. I think he will, he fits in better there.

Oooooh, and...after 10 months of being alone in this town, it transpires that all the English speaking mothers have children in this new class. I nearly wept with joy when I met them on Tuesday and could actually talk to someone other than my son, midweek. Am going to be meeting up with them all hopefully next week.

How's everyone?

finknottle · 24/04/2008 09:13

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thequietone · 24/04/2008 09:16

Finknottle,I'm so sorry to hear your recent news.

I'll try and get some ideas together if I can to help with the funeral readings.

Thinking of you, and your friend's family.

admylin · 24/04/2008 09:21

Quietone, that all sound really positive - hope it works out for your ds in the new group. I never understood the fact that 3 year olds are supposed to just be able to cope with being left in a big group of dc they don't know and of all ages. Is it meantto toughen them up? No idea!

Good to have adults to speak to isn't it! I have 3 friends - found through school gate chat and if I miss them because we're late or they're not coming because they have ill dc or whatever then I feel really bad because i know I'll have a whole day without talking to an adult except dh at night whci doesn't count because all he talks about is lab and research stuff (yawn). With atleast 1 of them we always do something in the mornings, long walks, coffee or shopping and talking.

finknottle · 24/04/2008 09:22

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finknottle · 24/04/2008 09:23

Sorry, thequietone - meant to say thank you but am so enraged I'm typing and clicking too fast.

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admylin · 24/04/2008 09:25

Finknottle, that's terrible. I'll see if I can find the things dh brought back from his professors funeral last year, quite a few colleagues and students stood up and said something. Can her home curch not get involved?

finknottle · 24/04/2008 09:29

Other side of the world, admylin (sad)

I've been looking all morning but want something which isn't too mawkish or gloomy or "I've only gone to the next room" which annoys me for some reason.

I want something uplifting and "It's all right to be sad" but comforting.

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SSSandy2 · 24/04/2008 09:43

personally I think this one says it all - and your vicar there might need to re-read it:

"Wenn ich mit Menschen und mit Engelszungen spräche, und hätte der Liebe nicht, so wäre ich ein tönendes Erz oder eine klingende Schelle.

Und wenn ich weissagen könnte, und wüsste alle Geheimnisse und alle Erkenntnis, und hätte allen Glauben, so dass ich Berge versetzte, und hätte der Liebe nicht, so wäre ich nichts.

Und wenn ich alle meine Habe den Armen gäbe, und ließe meinen Leib brennen, und hätte der Liebe nicht, so wäre mir's nichts nütze.

Die Liebe ist langmütig und freundlich, die Liebe eifert nicht, die Liebe treibt keinen Mutwillen, sie blähet sich nicht auf, sie stellet sich nicht ungebärdig, sie suchet nicht das Ihre, sie lässt sich nicht erbittern, sie rechnet das Böse nicht zu.

Sie freut sich nicht der Ungerechtigkeit, sie freut sich aber der Wahrheit:

Die Liebe verträgt alles, sie glaubt alles, sie hofft alles, sie duldet alles."

SSSandy2 · 24/04/2008 09:49

sorry that 's 1 Corinthians 13 of course

My mum chose this to be read at her funeral: When I'm Gone

When I come to the end of my journey
And I travel my last weary mile,
Just forget if you can, that I ever frowned
And remember only the smile.

Forget unkind words I have spoken;
Remember some good I have done
Forget that I ever had heartache
And remember I've had loads of fun.

Forget that I've stumbled and blundered
ANd sometimes fell by the way.
Remember I have fought some hard battles
And won, ere the close of the day.

Then forget to grieve for my going,
I would not have you sad for a day,
But in summer just gather some flowers
And remember the place where I lay,

And come in the shade of evening
When the sun paints the sky in the west
Stand for a few moments beside me
And remember only my best

finknottle · 24/04/2008 09:51

What about this? Bit short but hopefully we'll have a lot of readings so length doesn't matter.

I'm losing my objectivity here, is this naff?

Wo Worte fehlen,
das Unbeschreibliche zu beschreiben,
wo die Augen versagen,
das Unabwendbare zu sehen,
wo die Hände das Unbegreifliche nicht fassen können,
bleibt einzig die Gewissheit,
dass Du für immer in unseren Herzen weiterleben wirst.

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