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Has anyone returned to UK from Aus?

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WS12 · 31/07/2017 00:22

I have posted a lot on here over the past 10 months about home sickness and missing my family back in the UK. We are now 10 and a half months on from our move - still early I know - but I have talked to DH about the possibility of going back as I just don't think I can live and settle on the other side of the world from my family. We have always been a close family my mam dad and my sister, and I can't imagine this is it for the rest of my life - facetime and visits home once or twice a year. But that's for another thread! What I was thinking about was other people's experiences.

Has anyone emigrated go Aus and returned home? Where about did you go to? What is your story? How long were you here for and when and why did you go back? Did you find it hard? Did you regret it? How did you organise the move back? Was everyone happy?

My DH has said if I still feel like this after our visit back next month (yes 4 weeks and I'll be back home if only for 3 weeks but can't wait!!) he has said I could go back with he kids for a trial period, say 6 months, and see how we both felt after that. Not ideal but a start at the conversation of returning I guess. I would like us all to go back together really. My hub is Australian and loving being back, feel guilty really.

I just would like to hear others stories if that's ok?? What I'm struggling with - though I love Australia I really do - I miss the closeness of family, I'm feeling very isolated here and can't wait to be back where I feel I belong. I know it won't be a bed of roses. This trip back will be very useful for both of us I think.

Will others please share their stories? Many thanks 💐❤

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silentpool · 03/08/2017 04:49

I am an expat of many years and many countries. I also agree that you have not given it enough time. I have seen so many people viewing their home country through rose coloured glasses and when they do go home, it is not as great as they expected. I think you need to focus on making yourself happy where you are at a given time and not rely on external influences (location, other people) to do that for you.

HairyMcFairy16 · 03/08/2017 05:52

You've got a bigger issue here. I'm not sure how you managed to relocate without a discussion but that's fairly alarming. Either you decided to do this and you give it a proper go or you've got far bigger relationship issues if you feel you were coerced into a move. You sobbed? Where were the kids? What did DH make of your reaction? Something's not quite right here. You really shouldn't be doing things that upset you to the point of breaking down. I really hope you're able to find a solution that works for you. Maybe hashing it all out with a therapist would helpful as it seems like there's more at play here than just Uk vs. Aus

From a practical standpoint I would think long and hard about moving kids out if you've got school places somewhere good. Uk state schools are in a right mess with funding cuts/big classes/oversubscribed schools/SATS.

Petalflowers · 03/08/2017 06:37

A relative has come back to Britain, having moved there over 15 years ago before it became trendy. She said that she felt that life was drawing her back to the UK and Facebook pictures show a good social life.

In laws of hers have also moved back because they can't afford to live there. The pension gets capped at when you leave.

WS12 · 03/08/2017 07:11

Thanks everyone. I have reread through this thread and I think the best thing for me to do right now is try to not worry about things at this very moment in time. We fly to the UK for our holiday in just over three weeks and we have three weeks there so I am going to enjoy the run up to it and the holiday itself without having this constant conversation with myself I swear I'm driving myself nuts 😂. After that... we will see. But I seriously am driving myself insane, feel like I need a switch off button.

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WS12 · 03/08/2017 07:21

HairyMcFairy- one of the biggest problems I have is that I don't like drama, I can't stand rocking the boat if you know what I mean, I've never been one of these to have arguments and fall outs and all that chew on... so I do what I can to keep the peace and keep things nice. I really do feel that's what I did (so it is my own fault) I went along with what my DH wanted (I also think he needed a move) to keep the peace and not rock the boat. I was going along with it all the while wishing I could split myself in two and live two lives - one where I was with my hubby and kids in Aus and the other in the UK doing exactly what we were doing and changing nothing. I feel that way again now that I wish I could love two lives, one here to make my hub happy and one back home so I can be happy. But don't get me wrong I used to say a lot about not really wanting to leave, but my DH said he never saw himself settling in the UK, before we left he got citizenship and wanted a UK passport I guess as a souvenir 🙄.

I keep thinking maybe it's time I rocked the boat 😕 I'm one of those who looks back years later and thinks "why did I let it go on so long". I've always been that way, hate stress and drama.

My DH is a nice man though, not abusive or anything like that, just not good at discussions. And I did come here after all I wasn't physically forced on the plane. I think now I have left I realise how much I didn't want to leave. I mean I cried on the day I left work, in the staff room, in front of everyone. So embarrassing. I've been emotional about the whole thing for around two years now, feels mentally exhausting.

Just never been one to rock the boat.

I need an off button 😂😭 xxxx

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LastAnni · 03/08/2017 07:35

There's a really lovely and interesting Facebook page called I Am A Triangle. I've found this a helpful place to discuss the feelings of being an expat, a repat, and homesick for a former life.

SavoyCabbage · 03/08/2017 07:53

I came back to the uk after seven years in Melbourne and I don't regret it at all. Although I do miss my friends. My dh didn't want to move back here so it was all very difficult. Neither did the kids as they couldn't really remember living here. My oldest was about to start high school age so it was a now or never time for us.

I'm just so happy to be back. The sense of belonging that I have is priceless to me. Being with my family. Having other people to love my children. I had amazing friends but would feel like crying if I saw a mother and adult daughter asking each other's opinion on a duvet cover for example. It was also difficult for me to not be there for my family when they needed me.

We had both visa problems and problems getting a school place for my year four dc but we got there in the end.

guestofclanmackenzie · 03/08/2017 08:33

Hi OP five years ago I could have written your post. In fact, I probably did on one of the British Expat forums I was a member of.

We emigrated to NZ in 2006 and returned to the UK in 2012.

MY DH loved the kiwi lifestyle and loved his job. He was in a profession where he was respected by the community and everyone pulled together and was treated like one big family. (Emergency services job) He threw himself into triathlons, camping, hiking, kayaking, and loved it. The kids ran around barefoot and developed kiwi accents and loved life too.

I struggled. At first I buried the feelings as we had been advised to sever as many ties as possible to the UK otherwise it would be harder to settle. We sold up, shipped everything over and came to NZ with in definate residency. I struggled with so man things. Firstly there was this gnawing feeling that time was flashing by and I was living a temporary life that wasn't mine. I felt like I was living at the arse end of the world and all the people who cared about me were a billion miles away.

I have a close small family and three months running up to the emigration was nothing short of hell. My family really struggled with the decision to move and couldn't understand why we wanted to go. In the end, emotions ran that high, we very nearly left on bad terms with them. My parents went away when we were having our leaving dos etc as they couldn't handle it all.

After the honeymoon phase was over, there was this unease and difficulty to settle coming from me. We moved several times both rentals and property purchases as we couldn't find the right area/home. Looking back, that was a massive indication that things weren't right. Due to us moving in 2006 we left the UK during the property boom so we made a fortune out of the move and the exchange rate was at its peak but unfortunately NZ had experienced a boom too so we were shocked at how little we could get for our money. Someone advised us that once your £s have gone and you're earning kiwi dollars, be prepared to struggle. I also remember someone telling us not to come to NZ unless you're mortgage free. Unfortunately we ignored this advise as we needed quite a big mortgage to get a half decent house (nothing majorly flash though) in the right area. DH was earning a decent wage and I had to go from working part time in the UK to full time in NZ. This was with a just turned 5 year old just starting school. I spent my summers working in an air conditioned office paying strangers to look after my child.

Resentment started to creep in. I hated the fact my kids gradually started to forget close family members, cried about fact that family members looked older every time we would see them on Skype or photos. My parents are in their mid 60s and in the end we ditched sky ping as it was too upsetting for both of us.

When my youngest DS was 7 he had a major accident and ended up in intensive care. I remember being sat in a chair at the side of him texting my mum crying my eyes out, whilst she was 12 thousand miles away doing the same, feeling so helpless.

I flung myself into trying to make friends. I found kiwi women very friendly and easy to talk to but felt like I was kept at arms length. Most of the friends I made over there were Brits mostly in the same boat as me although my closest friend over there was lucky enough to have her parents emigrate too.

I felt very jealous at seeing other kiwis with their families and dreaded Xmas, milestone birthdays, grandparents day. My DS came home from school one day a bit sad that he had to "borrow" someone's grandma for grandparents day. The guilt was awful. Constantly asking them if they were happy and if they are glad we are here. Constantly questioning "what have we done?" Is this the "better life" we promised them? Having no family or ties to this country? NZ is in its own little bubble and its a very lonely place to be even with family. I am not an outdoor loving girl. I love shopping, busy bars and nightlife and clothes and foreign holidays. We lived on the doorstep to rural breathtaking beaches and I would post photos on Facebook and receive comments from people saying how lucky we are. Little did they know that yes they were breathtaking but we were the only people on the beach!

I soon got bored with the life and as we lived in a tourist area, dreaded the long winters as everyone literally hibernated and also dreaded summer because of Xmas.

My mum used to say that Saturday mornings she would very often get a drunken phone call from me (as it would be sat night in NZ) crying down the phone telling me how much I missed her.

My mum and dad came out to visit us twice. A few days after their arrival I would start to dread their departing. The build up to each visit lasted about a year. The second time they left effected me for a bout three months and I ended up on antidepressants. The reason was because my DF quietly mentioned that it would be their last visit due to my mums health ( she has a heart condition) and the journey is too much for her. This gnawed away at me..knowing how little disposable income we were left with, there was no way we could afford to visit the UK.

Then a couple of years later, my DH surprised me with paying for a flight back to the UK for my 40th. He came into a small amount of money but it was enough for a visit home for me.

The minute the plane touched down, I had goosebumps and I just felt that finally I was home. I knew right at that moment that NZ would never be my home.

Towards the end of my visit, I broke down to my parents and everything came out about how unhappy I was, and how I had tried to make it work but the homesickness was crippling. I felt like I was living someone else's life and my own life was being wasted in a place that wasn't home. My parents told me they would help in any way they could to bring us back.

Back when we emigrated, DH and I made a pact that we would give it 5 years and if one of us didn't settle, we would come back. I remember skyping him from my mum and dads spare room asking him how he would feel about coming back. He said he would support me in the decision and he knew it was coming as I had been so unhappy. I felt that a tonne weight had been lifted.

I returned to NZ and we put immediate plans in place to make the move back.

I don't regret the decision one bit. Yes, I do miss my life in NZ, i see photos on Facebook all the time of friends on the beach or bbqing on Xmas day, but I know if I had still been there, I would be missing the UK and family members more. People say "why did you come back to this shithole?" When they hear our story, but unless you have been a foreigner in someone else's country, you will never understand.

No amount of sunshine and beaches make up for the luxury of having your family on the doorstep.

SavoyCabbage · 03/08/2017 08:41

Great post Mackenzie. You are a good writer. My dd also had to borrow a friend for grandparents day. Once at Kinder then again at school.

When people say to me they don't know why I came back I always say 'ohhhh, do you want to live in Australia? We will help you with the forms. I know someone who is a hairdresser/pharmacist/carpenter so I'll speak to him about jobs' etc Then they tell me the reasons why they couldn't.

Puggsville · 03/08/2017 10:45

I hate it when Britons refer to our country as a "shithole". It has some of the most beautiful coastline and countryside on earth (the Lake District!), fabulous cities, towns and villages.

OK the weather is somewhat unreliable - I'll give you that Smile Today is a dreary rainy August Thursday, so DD and I will go ice skating or swimming. If the weather hasn't improved when we've finished then we'll have a hot chocolate in Waterstones and select some books. Whatever the weather this weekend, we'll be out in the woods walking the dog or cycling.

Sorry, OP, going off topic here. I just don't think you have to suck it up. A great life can be had in the UK - our DC go to excellent state primaries/comprehensives. The NHS is fantastic.

No amount of BBQ-ing on the beach would replace close relationships with my family. If I had any that is. Parents died in my early adulthood and siblings later merged into their spouses' families. I never understand why people take grandchildren away from doting grandparents just for a chance of more time outdoors 12,000 miles away.

WS12 · 03/08/2017 10:59

Mackenzie thank you so much for taking the time to write such a lovely reply that sounds so logical and makes so much sense. There are lots of emotions and ideas in your reply that mirror my own, and at parts I felt like "gosh this is what I am feeling/thinking!".

I totally agree about the sadness when children begin to forget- my DC are doing this now, my DS who is 4 doesn't talk much about them anymore, when one year ago they were SO close. And my parents like yours found it hard to see us leave, my mam couldn't talk about it until a few weeks before we left, and we didn't have leaving parties as I knew it would upset them too much.

I really just want to go back to where I feel my real life is. My DH knows this too, and I keep swaying from sticking it out (no please don't make me 😭😭😭) to saying I am staying when we visit and see if my parents will help us out giving me and the DC a place to stay.

As well as everything else I have mentioned (there is loads throughout this thread!) I really want another baby, and I just can't do that here, as it would make me so incredibly sad to see my family and friends missing out on our baby when I'd be sat here all alone in the house wishing someone to come around.

Without sounding corny, the feeling I get inside when thinking about being back home permanently is wonderful. That's when I belong, not here in the middle of nowhere with no one but my DH and the kids. It's beautiful here but maybes just not enough for me? When we get back if I think "this is it I'm home" I just pray that I will have the strength to tell my DH how I feel...
And I pray he will understand 🙏

Ps I love Outlander!!!

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WS12 · 03/08/2017 11:02

Puggsville this was tiny argument to my hubby - why would we take the children all the way to the other side of the world to spend time outside - when my parents absolutely loved them, looked after them while we were at work.

I love the UK and think we can have a great life there!

Some days I feel like saying fuck this shit I'm going home I've had e-fucking-nough.

Sorry for the language xxxx

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WS12 · 03/08/2017 11:20

But having said that about my parents, my DH has family here. BIG family as he's one of seven, his cousins are all from big families, he has so many aunties and uncles... but they aren't my family and that makes a big difference.

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guestofclanmackenzie · 03/08/2017 12:03

Hi again OP.

I think you need to consider quite a few things. You also need to be able to talk openly with each other and think about the fact this is your life, so don't worry about things like rocking boats! Who cares? This is your boat, your life, and if you're so desperately unhappy then so bit it. Life is bloody short to be wasting time living a life your gut instinct is telling you is wrong.

Firstly, I think you need a plan. Like I said, we had a five year plan and had the pact in place. I do think that 10 months is a very short time to throw in the towel. Having said that, I do know of a family who got to NZ and hated it so much they returned to the UK before their container even got there!

I would also consider that your holiday to the UK is going to give you a very different taste of the life you would be living here should you make the permanent move back. I came back during a very cold and bitter NZ winter whilst we were living in a damp and cold 1960s monstrosity of a rental. The UK was having a heatwave, it was the year of the Euro so there were St Georges flags everywhere, the Olympics, and so I had a taste of our country at its finest with everyone being so patriotic etc. Balmy evenings spent in beer gardens, seeing family I hadn't seen for years, everyone coming out of the woodwork wanting to see me. I went back to NZ, and back to penny pinching, having no family, very few genuine friends, Pak n Save, freezing cold weather, chopping wood and wrestling with an ancient wood burner and working full time in a job I hated.

As corny as it sounds, I believe that your life is a book. Each major thing that has happened in your life is a chapter of your life. Living in NZ for me is a chapter of my life that I look back on with fond memories. I used to cycle to work through vineyards, and instead of meeting my close friend for coffee, we used to go wine tasting! I don't regret any of it, but it was never going to be me there for the rest of my life.

It took us a good while to settle back here in the UK and in the beginning we had some major wobbles. My DH misses NZ like mad, but we both know deep down we made the right decision.

I think you need to sit down with your DH and decide your plan of action. Start by writing down a list of advantages and disadvantages of being there and evaluate each one.

Glad to talk to a fellow outlander lover!

WS12 · 03/08/2017 13:00

Thank you very much for your perspective. I agree a plan is what we need- we had originally said we would review things after a year and see how we felt and go from there (I hope my hubby remembers lol😂) so I think that's what we will need to do.

One thing I thought about today was that even though we have only been here 10 months, the whole situation we are in has been ongoing for a lot longer. We have discussed moving right from the start of our relationship in 2008, took us years to actually do it. We applied for my visa at the end of May 2015, but my DH wanted to get the ball rolling in August 2014, but then we had a surprise pregnancy yey! And I said I needed to wait until baby was here to think about a move so big. DH suggested we move mid pregnancy - well you can imagine how well that went down with me ha ha - so we waited (but seriously he thought I could emigrate mid pregnancy?!? 😳). Our daughter is now 2 and a half. I remember being a few months pregnant and my DH talking about the move, and I was sat there crying my eyes out saying "well it's not you who has to leave their family is it?! You're going home!". So it's over three years really, it's a long time to be in this situation. I'd be so relieved for it all to be over and think "I'm never moving again".

Thank you 😘 xxxx

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