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Whats NZ really like?

45 replies

SantasMadMissy · 26/12/2010 17:28

As per title really! I see lots about emmigrating to OZ but whats NZ like?

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buzzybee · 27/12/2010 01:53

What do you want to know? And who from - people who have emigrated or kiwis?

Horopu · 27/12/2010 01:57

Very hot where I am at the moment.
Not as many sheep as you'd expect.
Lots of space. Great beaches.
No castles (complaint from my kids)
A long way from anywhere else.

Blackletterday · 27/12/2010 02:03

I will ask my sister, she emigrated there for a year, but came home because of a cheating twatty husband. She did seem to like it, apart from the husband thing though, although I do remember her saying it was expensive.

Horopu · 27/12/2010 02:07

Food is expensive and goods. Labour is not expensive. You pay equivalent of VAT on everything including food.
Some parts are very muliticultural, where I am is more bicultural.

pavlovalover · 27/12/2010 03:59

What aspects are you particularly interested in?

Experiences differ a lot depending on what part of the country, whether you have children, what kinds of things you like doing and probably most importantly whether you'll have a decent income. It can be very expensive depending on how you live your life, and the distance between the UK and NZ means that long distance flights are something most people can only afford every few years.

Are you thinking of emigrating?

thelittlestkiwi · 27/12/2010 05:21

NZ is beautiful, expensive, sunny, windy, has crappy houses, is far from everything and has no native mammals. I find people here have more respect for each other is it is less crowded and stressed than the UK.

I think NZ rocks and love living near the beach. But migration is hard and not for everyone.

WhatSheSaid · 27/12/2010 06:14

I think thelittlestkiwi has summed it up very well actually.

Except it's not so windy where I am Smile

ZZZenAgain · 27/12/2010 10:57

find it difficult to describe how NZ is really. If you told us how you imagine it, we might be able to say if that sounds realistic / matches our own experiences though.

I think personally that NZ is really quite different to Australia, although due to relative proximity and the same language and what from the outside appears to be a similar accent (my apologies to Aussies and Kiwis for whom tihs is definitely not the case!) and lifestyle.

I like NZ but I don't know how you are imagining it

SantasMadMissy · 27/12/2010 21:21

I just wondered as I have friends out there. It seems almost uk-ish (sorry if I am wayyy off). Houses I agree don't look much, are they all wooden frame? (told you I know little)
Is it really as tiny as I think it is?
Friends say that they have wind issues at the moment!
Sounds expensive but then UK is too....

Would love to spread our wings one day but doubt anywhere will have us Grin. More a case of understanding what life is like I guess?

Thanks for the replys!

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ElenorRigby · 27/12/2010 21:25

Best place on earth!!

I sooooo want to live there < sob >

pavlovalover · 27/12/2010 21:38

Most houses are wooden frames, but not all. Some brick and some newer ones use other materials (but best avoided as many have proven to be not suitable for the wet and windy climate).
It is isolated but is it tiny? Ummm, no. I think it's roughly twice the land mass of England, but with only 4.5m people so much more sparsely populated.
It is like the UK in parts, due to heritage. The legal system, university system etc are all inherited from the UK. And some parts of it have a similar feel. Other bits are very different. Perhaps you should visit your friends and take a look.

SantasMadMissy · 27/12/2010 21:56

I would truely love to visit, such a long way away.

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thelittlestkiwi · 28/12/2010 06:39

I only know Auckland but it is quite diverse. It's about 450,000 people with 50% of European descent, the rest being Maori, Pacific Islander, Asian and Eastern European etc. But I feel it's not terribly integrated. Hopefully in time.

One of the things I like about Auckland/NZ is that doing stuff is easy. We've seen more international acts here than we did in the UK- Kylie, Billy Connolley, actual Richard O'Brien in the Rocky Horror show (he's a kiwi btw). It's just easier to get tickets and stuff tends not to sell out. We recently decided to go to Waiheke Island (just off Auckland) for the weekend. I booked the peak time 6.30pm ferry on a Friday a couple of days before and we rocked up at the boarding time (60 mins before). We were the only people there and no one else arrived till 6.15. lol. I don't do cueing any more.

At first I hated wooden houses. But we've just bought one!

thelittlestkiwi · 28/12/2010 06:41

Where are you Whatshesaid? I don't think I've been to a non windy place in NZ. But I haven't seen much as I've been busy having DD since we arrived.

WhatSheSaid · 28/12/2010 06:43

I'm going to sound really picky and anal here, but Auckland actually has about 1.4 million people, not 450,000.

WhatSheSaid · 28/12/2010 06:45

X-post Smile

I'm in west Auckland, near Titirangi. Where we are is quite sheltered and we don't seem to get much wind...well I haven't noticed being excessive...

thelittlestkiwi · 28/12/2010 06:50

Bloody wikipedia. I thought that didn't seem very many.

I love Titirangi. We thought about shifting out there but it would be a long commute for DH. At the moment he does 7 mins.

WhatSheSaid · 28/12/2010 06:54

Are you near the city centre? There seem to be quite a few newish NZ posters lately and I'm a bit nosey about them Grin

thelittlestkiwi · 28/12/2010 07:05

We're in the Eastern Bays. OH works near Panmure. I love it here but we've had an awful time with housing which is horrifically expensive. We've been looking on and off for about 2 years and just went unconditional before Xmas.

How long have you been here?

WhatSheSaid · 28/12/2010 07:15

That's why we're in west Auckland...cos the housing is cheaper. We're still near the sea though and lots of parks and the Waitakere Ranges etc.

I've been here 9 years (was only meant to be here for a year!)

sadiesadiemarriedlady · 28/12/2010 07:28

Best place on earth.

Horopu · 28/12/2010 07:51

Outside Auckland things are not always so convenient - we are in Northland and when it rains there is a limit to what you can enjoyably do. We have to drive for 40/50 minutes to get to a reasonable selection of shops. We are happy where we are but very different from where we came some (london suburb).

thelittlestkiwi · 28/12/2010 07:56

I think I'd struggle a little if we had moved to the country- I often wonder of urban to rural would be a bigger change than urban UK to urban NZ. What do you think Horopu?

We've been here 2 1/2 years now. We only came for a year as well :-)

Horopu · 28/12/2010 08:43

It is a massive challenge. We have been here year. After being able to grocery shop at midnight if I wanted to and doing all my Christmas shopping online, jumping on a train to nip up to a museum with the kids on a wet day or getting the bus to pizza express we now have to organise everything much more carefully.

There are 5 of us and one car. If someone wants to do something we all have to go or someone goes and the others have to stay at home. My eldest goes to Whangarei once a month for a gaming day, so I tend to do a big shop and take the other two boys for lots of fun activites.

I have to be much more organised - the chemist is open 5 days a week 9-5. There are not many shops in my town a 4 square (like a Spar), chemist, butcher, organic shop, gift shop,newsagent, hair dresser (rarely open), doctors, library (pay to be a member, very limited selection) and 3 estate agents (to be fair one of these also sells hay, strawberries, huge wooden tables, guinea pigs and whatever else is around).

This sounds like I am obsessed with shopping - I am not, I loathe shopping, I love in a way not having lots of shops near, and I realised reading in bed with ds3 tonight that we have hardly any advertising hoardings anywhere, which is refreshing.

My class come to school with stories about sheep/cows/ horses etc - they have a different outlook on lots of things - we have had drought here and when I say that I don't want it to rain on a trip they look at me like I am mad - they want rain at any price (loads very recently so all good again).

The village where my school is is on tank water - huge concrete tanks sunk in the ground that collect the rain water - if you are lucky it gets filtered, although I drink it straight from the tap in my room.

Shoes are hardly worn - at the petrol gargae the other morning one worker was saying she was in trouble with her boss as she wasn't wearing any. My class all take theirs off when they get into class (if they are waring any) and if they do have any if is usually jandals (flip flops) or gum boots (wellies)

In the winter our nearest swimming pool is 50 mins away. in the summer it is 2 mins away - school outdoor pool $50 for the whole summer for the whole family.

Big events in the school year have been: Pet and Show Day (bring calves and lambs plus home baking) and the Posuum Purge. We had the Speaker of the House of Parliment judge our animals - not bad for a school of 43 children!

Fundraising at school is hard: everyone needs money: 2 schools, St John's Ambulance (who are who comes when you dial 111), playcentre, Plunket (under 6's health care), sports teams etc. There is quite a small community and only a finite amount of money that we are all chasing after. On paper it looks like a rich area - there are 2 private schools here as well as the primary and secondary school. But one of the private ones is for Exclusive Brethern only. Most of them are very well off, with big houses and there are a lot in our town. There are friendly if you meet them - smile and nod, but are very, well exculsive! So the active community espcially the 'state' schools are much less well off that it appears at first.

We are not moving again so I am determined to enjoy myself and so far so good. There are lots of positives, but it is very different. It is strange sometime realising that something I take for granted no one has even heard off. I wanted treasury tags at school - it transpires no one in NZ has heard of them or none of the stationers I asked anyway!

Anyway that may not have made much sense but I quite enjoyed getting off my chest!

Horopu · 28/12/2010 08:44

Sorry I did not preview that, I can spell when I try, honest!