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Bad news today

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badnews943 · 10/07/2025 21:09

Had a nightmare today. Received news that I have type 3 breast cancer which may be in my lungs. I'm having a lung biopsy next week but the Dr seemed pretty certain.

I'm not sure what to think. Any advice or support?

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badnews943 · 11/07/2025 23:12

@doublec Thanks for the recommendation and sorry for your diagnosis. I have been in contact with Breast Cancer Now and Macmillan and both have been good. I've arranged a call back from Maggies. I'm trying to get as much support as possible.

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tillyandmilly · 11/07/2025 23:13

🌺🌺🌺🌺 How does one volunteer to visit when they have no-one and have a life limiting illness - I would like to volunteer to sit with them?

badnews943 · 11/07/2025 23:15

tillyandmilly · 11/07/2025 23:13

🌺🌺🌺🌺 How does one volunteer to visit when they have no-one and have a life limiting illness - I would like to volunteer to sit with them?

Perhaps contact one of the charities like Macmillan.

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doublec · 11/07/2025 23:26

badnews943 · 11/07/2025 23:12

@doublec Thanks for the recommendation and sorry for your diagnosis. I have been in contact with Breast Cancer Now and Macmillan and both have been good. I've arranged a call back from Maggies. I'm trying to get as much support as possible.

No need for sorrow at my diagnosis. It was one of those things. I don't think I've ever been caught more by surprise in my life.

I was incredibly fortunate that I was the first in my family to receive a cancer diagnosis and not die from it within 6 months. This alone enabled me to be positive, even when pre-cancer, I was not a positive person.

Breast cancer taught me how resilient I am and every day, I still can't believe how I managed to take it all in my stride. Tbh, once you have surgery and start treatment, you won't have time to overthink things. At the moment, where you are - a kinf of limbo - is the hardest part of it because you don't know what exactly you're dealing with and the plan ahead for you. I remember, until the day I had surgery, it was very much a case of 'I have cancer?' rather than I have cancer. Try to plan now. Get your house in order. Rearrange things so you can reach them because once you have surgery, recovery is hard and doing simple things is difficult. Keep your mind busy. Don't dwell and catastrophize. Even though it does not feel like it now, this is the last time you will feel like yourself for a while. Try to remain calm and dare say enjoy the summer. I don't mean to sound glib but once you start treatment, you will be tired and have little energy for all sorts of things.

Which hospital are you at? Some of them have Macmillan drop in centres. If yours does, go in person as that way, you'll have someone to drop in a see each and every time you're there. For me, the woman I saw the day I was diagnosed was wonderful. Two years later, I still pop by to see her and if I haven't been in for a bit, she texts me.

PlioTalk · 11/07/2025 23:28

I'm so sorry OP. I definitely echo PPs in encouraging you to speak to a Macmillan nurse, they're generally wonderful.

For now though, avoid Dr Google. Deep breaths. Cuddle up on the settee and watch crap telly, anything to stop you overthinking for a short while. Deep breaths.

I wish I could offer better advice, but they're small things that helped me in the past x

tipsyraven · 11/07/2025 23:31

OP, if you feel worse, call 999 again and tell them you can’t breath and mention any chest pain you might have.

Missj25 · 11/07/2025 23:41

badnews943 · 10/07/2025 21:09

Had a nightmare today. Received news that I have type 3 breast cancer which may be in my lungs. I'm having a lung biopsy next week but the Dr seemed pretty certain.

I'm not sure what to think. Any advice or support?

Awe OP , I’m sorry you got such shit news today & that you’re on your own tonight ..x
I hope you have a supportive family, & that you beat this ❤️….

badnews943 · 11/07/2025 23:51

I'm thinking of cancelling the call as I need to go to sleep. I've got to get up early tomorrow.

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Charliecatpaws · 12/07/2025 00:00

The ambulance service should be able to provide transport for your appointments non emergency. I’m so sorry that you are going through this alone but keep posting x

Donotgiveashit · 12/07/2025 00:16

badnews943 · 11/07/2025 23:51

I'm thinking of cancelling the call as I need to go to sleep. I've got to get up early tomorrow.

Don’t cancel the call,you need to be looked after ,why do you need to be up early tomorrow?

TourdeFrance25 · 12/07/2025 03:25

Let us know how you got on last night .

being in your own makes everything so much harder & much more scary.

re transport, ask at your GP, on 'Nextdoor' or other local sites, or Google area+volunteer drivers there are a lot of volunteer groups who will drive you to appointments for a nominal fee (basically to cover their fuel).

I hope you got to the hospital ok xx

badnews943 · 12/07/2025 07:26

I cancelled the call but was woken up at 2am with someone calling for another assessment! They then arranged for a Dr to call some time in the morning.

I'll speak to Maggies about transport next week.

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Enigma53 · 12/07/2025 08:45

Hi OP, how are you today? 🌷

badnews943 · 12/07/2025 08:48

Enigma53 · 12/07/2025 08:45

Hi OP, how are you today? 🌷

I'm still feeling weak. Not as bad as yesterday but we'll see. I didn't eat properly yesterday as I was too weak to do anything. I'm waiting for the Dr to call.

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Rosscameasdoody · 12/07/2025 09:58

Areyouserioushuh · 11/07/2025 22:52

I hope this isnt a silly question and do hope it doesnt offend.
if its found in the lungs isnt that metastatic? and level 4?

my sister has just been diagnosed with this. We are all very worried about her.

best wishes OP.

I’m so sorry about your sister - it’s really hard to hear news like this, but it’s important to try not to panic as the full picture when all tests are in may be very different from your fears.

Stage 4 cancer is metastatic - has spread to other organs or areas of the body. It’s generally referred to as treatable rather than curable and treatments focus on controlling the symptoms, slowing the progress of the disease and extending and improving quality of life. A breast cancer that is metastatic at initial diagnosis is called a DeNovo cancer. The treatments for these kinds of cancers have vastly improved over the last ten years, people are living a lot longer and with much improved quality of life. Treatments are tailored to the type of cancer, extent of spread and the general overall health, so will vary from person to person. There is also something called Oligometastatic breast cancer which has spread to just one area, or a very limited number of areas, and there are different targeted therapies for these.

When l was diagnosed with BC, last year, the type was lobular, which typically doesn’t present with lumps or bumps, and it was picked up at a routine mammogram. These tumours are difficult to see on scans so are usually large by the time they are discovered. Mine was a large tumour - 13cm at diagnosis -and despite it being described as a stage 1-2 cancer initially, l was advised to have MRI and CT investigation to ensure that none had broken away and spread undetected. Thankfully the scans were clear for distant spread, but at mastectomy it was found in the lymph nodes so they were removed to stop further spread, and the cancer was redefined as stage 3. The cancer l had was ‘cured’ by a combination of mastectomy, radiotherapy and l’ll be on hormone therapy for the next 8-10 years.

Hopefully OP, as well as your sister will find that once all the test results are in and there is a treatment plan, the outlook is not what they feared. I do hope so.

I think the OP has underscored the importance of being vigilant. Not all breast cancer presents with lumps or bumps, and it’s important to know other visible signs like ‘orange peel skin’, which appears as cancer cells block the lymphatic cells, causing a dimpled effect on the skin of the breast close to the tumour - it resembles orange peel in appearance. This was the only sign l had that there was a cancer and unfortunately l didn’t recognise it.

There are other visible signs that something may be wrong and it’s important get them checked out no matter how insignificant you feel they are. Flushing or redness in the skin, or a thickened/hardened skin. Any visible swelling of the breast or a change in size or shape causing asymmetry. Nipple changes - inverted nipples which are not normal for you, any discharge or bleeding, or rash around the nipple area. Pain that doesn’t go away in the breast or armpit, and swelling of lymph nodes in the armpit or near the collarbone. Self examination is important and you can get advice from your GP or practice nurse on how to do it properly, but it should be combined with looking for any visible signs. And despite the discomfort involved, always attend for routine mammograms when you’re called. I would never have known my cancer was there if not for the mammogram, and had l missed it, l’d be telling a very different story now.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/07/2025 10:05

badnews943 · 12/07/2025 08:48

I'm still feeling weak. Not as bad as yesterday but we'll see. I didn't eat properly yesterday as I was too weak to do anything. I'm waiting for the Dr to call.

OP have you got anything you can easily prepare - even cereal with milk ? It’s important to eat even if you can only manage small amounts. I know it’s difficult and the shock of diagnosis will affect your appetite too, but please try a little. When you talk to the doctor ask about Ensure drinks - these are easy to digest ready made milkshake meal replacements and can be provided on prescription. You can also buy a supply online if there’s a delay in providing them on NHS.

if you’e up to it can you let us know how things are when you’ve spoken to the doctor.

PeppyTealDuck · 12/07/2025 10:43

It is understandable that you were very worried. Eventually you realized you needed to rest. Take it easy and when dark and scary thoughts come to your mind, label them as such and let them move on again, out of your mind. I’d recommend starting meditating if you ever feel up for it.

During the day you can then deal with the practical stuff. Sending you lots of strength.

Areyouserioushuh · 12/07/2025 11:42

Rosscameasdoody · 12/07/2025 09:58

I’m so sorry about your sister - it’s really hard to hear news like this, but it’s important to try not to panic as the full picture when all tests are in may be very different from your fears.

Stage 4 cancer is metastatic - has spread to other organs or areas of the body. It’s generally referred to as treatable rather than curable and treatments focus on controlling the symptoms, slowing the progress of the disease and extending and improving quality of life. A breast cancer that is metastatic at initial diagnosis is called a DeNovo cancer. The treatments for these kinds of cancers have vastly improved over the last ten years, people are living a lot longer and with much improved quality of life. Treatments are tailored to the type of cancer, extent of spread and the general overall health, so will vary from person to person. There is also something called Oligometastatic breast cancer which has spread to just one area, or a very limited number of areas, and there are different targeted therapies for these.

When l was diagnosed with BC, last year, the type was lobular, which typically doesn’t present with lumps or bumps, and it was picked up at a routine mammogram. These tumours are difficult to see on scans so are usually large by the time they are discovered. Mine was a large tumour - 13cm at diagnosis -and despite it being described as a stage 1-2 cancer initially, l was advised to have MRI and CT investigation to ensure that none had broken away and spread undetected. Thankfully the scans were clear for distant spread, but at mastectomy it was found in the lymph nodes so they were removed to stop further spread, and the cancer was redefined as stage 3. The cancer l had was ‘cured’ by a combination of mastectomy, radiotherapy and l’ll be on hormone therapy for the next 8-10 years.

Hopefully OP, as well as your sister will find that once all the test results are in and there is a treatment plan, the outlook is not what they feared. I do hope so.

I think the OP has underscored the importance of being vigilant. Not all breast cancer presents with lumps or bumps, and it’s important to know other visible signs like ‘orange peel skin’, which appears as cancer cells block the lymphatic cells, causing a dimpled effect on the skin of the breast close to the tumour - it resembles orange peel in appearance. This was the only sign l had that there was a cancer and unfortunately l didn’t recognise it.

There are other visible signs that something may be wrong and it’s important get them checked out no matter how insignificant you feel they are. Flushing or redness in the skin, or a thickened/hardened skin. Any visible swelling of the breast or a change in size or shape causing asymmetry. Nipple changes - inverted nipples which are not normal for you, any discharge or bleeding, or rash around the nipple area. Pain that doesn’t go away in the breast or armpit, and swelling of lymph nodes in the armpit or near the collarbone. Self examination is important and you can get advice from your GP or practice nurse on how to do it properly, but it should be combined with looking for any visible signs. And despite the discomfort involved, always attend for routine mammograms when you’re called. I would never have known my cancer was there if not for the mammogram, and had l missed it, l’d be telling a very different story now.

Thankyou so very much for this x

MrsKypp · 12/07/2025 19:41

So sorry to read your news. Thinking of you x

I had an aggressive cancer and had a very long treatment plan including various chemos, immune therapies, surgery, radiotherapy.

Cancer is terrifying, I still feel the fear now. I had a poor prognosis but with curative intent. Very likely it will return somewhere in my body as stage 4, and most likely in my brain.

I found MacMillan utterly useless, but Maggies was wonderful. I went to the nearest Maggies which wasn't at my hospital but I needed the support.

I take between 6-10mg diazepam for MRI scans, I take the tablets about 1.5 hours before each scan. My GP prescribes it.

Please keep us updated; we are here for you.

LadyLolaRuben · 12/07/2025 20:03

Hi OP, I used to work in one of the country's leading cancer hospitals. This period you're in is the worst time - waiting for tests and a plan to be put together. But this period doesn't last long as they want to take action asap. There will be Nurses who will help you through all the things you are thinking about. They even have staff who will help you apply for benefits and know which ones you need. They'll also give you advice on transport services that can be provided. There's lots of support out there, ask about it at your next appointment. Best of luck. Keep us posted x

uncomfortablydumb60 · 12/07/2025 20:13

I am sorry OP for what you are going through it’s a bewildering time, more so if you have no support around you
Please do contact all the organisations listed
i could see if anyone has mentioned this but
MacMillan have a Buddy scheme where you are teamed with someone who has been where you are.
One day at a time until you know the results of the tests and biopsies.
warmest wishes to you

CampCrow · 12/07/2025 20:24

I’m so sorry that you are having to deal with this. It must be totally overwhelming. Big hugs.

mechanicalpencil · 12/07/2025 22:22

How r u feeling this evening OP?
I hope the doctor called!

badnews943 · 13/07/2025 01:02

I saw a Dr through NHS Direct this afternoon and then went to A&E. I was there for hours. They did blood tests, X ray and CT scan and couldn't see what was causing the breathlessness and weakness and said it's probably to do with my diagnosis.

I asked if they had anything to help and they said no. They said if I'm feeling that bad and can't make my appointments to be asked to be admitted. The good news is blood work, heart, electrolytes etc were all good.

I have a biopsy on Monday and am not supposed to be alone as it's under anaesthetic but I don't have anyone to take. I think I'll request a wheelchair to take me to the department especially as I can't eat before the appointment.

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MissSophiaGrace · 13/07/2025 01:10

badnews943 · 13/07/2025 01:02

I saw a Dr through NHS Direct this afternoon and then went to A&E. I was there for hours. They did blood tests, X ray and CT scan and couldn't see what was causing the breathlessness and weakness and said it's probably to do with my diagnosis.

I asked if they had anything to help and they said no. They said if I'm feeling that bad and can't make my appointments to be asked to be admitted. The good news is blood work, heart, electrolytes etc were all good.

I have a biopsy on Monday and am not supposed to be alone as it's under anaesthetic but I don't have anyone to take. I think I'll request a wheelchair to take me to the department especially as I can't eat before the appointment.

I am happy to help you if I can and live nearby. I can't imagine how difficult it must be if you don't have support from friends and family.