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Still the storm

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Willowkins · 17/06/2020 22:00

Continuing the support thread - mostly for the partners of people living with terminal cancer - www.mumsnet.com/Talk/life_limiting_illness/3266385-The-calm-before-the-storm?pg=10

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notapizzaeater · 23/02/2021 21:27

@loubieloo4 ffs, you're due a break ! How soon for answers ?

@SuperCaliFragalistic my DH recently died and at the end he was non responsive. If I could I would have shielded my son from it but he was at home. Before I took him into the hospital I scouted out first to see how he was before I took DS in.

loubieloo4 · 23/02/2021 22:02

@notapizzaeater not sure how long for results, they did say there could be a delay due to covid. Hopefully I will hear in the next couple of weeks.

Frikonastick · 24/02/2021 02:16

Aw @loubieloo4 that deserves a proper fuck you to the universe. I’m sorry, how are feeling about it. When I had the melanoma diagnosis it was a right head fuck for a while, luckily for me it turned out to be the superficially spreading type, but it was very very strange being on the other side of it as it were.

DH is now on third line treatment, bit of a Hail Mary. $200,000 for the treatment.

notapizzaeater · 24/02/2021 09:37

@Frikonastick - ouch ! Are you having to fund that one ?

It's bloody horrible, I had ovarian cancer 6 years ago, (luckily a full open hysterectomy sorted it out) but I remember the middle of night realisation that if it hadn't have been caught / clear DS would have been an orphan at 18 🤯🤯😭.

Frikonastick · 24/02/2021 18:42

@notapizzaeater, yep. We have to self fund. Docs have written DHs less than a year to live letter so we can get his life insurance, which we will use to pay for the treatment.

notapizzaeater · 24/02/2021 19:29

😭🤯🤯🤯

That's so wrong ((hugs)) x

notapizzaeater · 27/02/2021 19:15

I've just been to our local tapas restaurant to collect tea and was in tears in the way home 😥. First time it's caught me unawares ....

SchrodingersKitty · 27/02/2021 20:30

The grief is so random @notapizzaeater. I’ve been mostly controlled for the last few months but I’ve been feeling really sad recently. I think it’s because of spring starting, which is when we got DH’s terminal diagnosis. I’m dreading the clematis and roses coming as it will remind me of the last good months of his life, when he sat in the garden writing. I’ve come to realise that the feelings just come when they come and all we can do is let them. But it is hard.

blindspots · 28/02/2021 03:13

I hate the way cancer research charities always post the stories of survivors, I know it's to promote the importance of donations etc and the difference research makes but it makes me feel ours who have died are somehow not as worthy and their cancer battle didn't count.

I'm sure it's a side effect of the grief but it really gives me the shits.

We had the first month anniversary of my sons death on Friday. It was hard as DH decided to go to work in the morning (we Finally we arrived home on the Tuesday so at least we were home for it) so we couldn't go by it and spend some time together or anything. I know everyone's grief is different but...

joystir59 · 28/02/2021 07:00

I had to go to A&E because I badly cut my thumb. The receptionist asked who my next of kin is.... First time I've been asked since my wife died ...and I just started crying.

Relaxing2 · 02/03/2021 20:51

It's so hard isn't it I just want my hubby back and ask why did you take him from me why please return him I need him so much

Diangled · 02/03/2021 23:58

So sorry @Relaxing2.

My wonderful DH died yesterday morning. Myself and our children were with him until the very end. I am utterly heartbroken & unsure how to just keep breathing. I’ll miss him forever. Our 10 year old is currently in bed with me cuddling his Dads shirt. Love to all. X

notapizzaeater · 03/03/2021 00:40

@Diangled ((hugs))

It's awful, there's a few of us going through it all at the same time,

Make sure you take care of yourself xx

Willowkins · 03/03/2021 01:28

Diangled so sorry to hear this
Flowers and Bear to you and your family

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loubieloo4 · 03/03/2021 19:15

@Diangled I'm so sorry 😞 words are never enough xx

@joystir59
The thought that dh won't be my next of kin has just took my breath away, isn't it strange the things that you don't even think about matter so much.

@notapizzaeater I hope you will be able to enjoy your take out one day with lovely memories of dh 🥺

@SchrodingersKitty
I worry I will have the same emotions with our garden, dh spent a lot of time during last year's lockdown sorting the garden out, most of it with young dd alongside him. He wanted to make sure it would be easier for me to manage.

Still no news on DH's scan results. I have my biopsy results on 17th March.

loubieloo4 · 03/03/2021 19:16

@Willowkins Always lovely to see you around, I hope you and the young willowkins are doing ok.

chinchin77 · 07/03/2021 07:52

I've been watching, am so sorry for all your loss. I don't know what to say, it doesn't get easier or 'better' however, loss teaches us that life is indeed very short and we have to enjoy while we can and able 💕

echt · 07/03/2021 23:05

Many Thanks for your loss, Diangled.

loubieloo4 · 12/03/2021 23:33

I come with good news!

My biopsies were clear 🎉 and DH's scans are stable. It's so bloody nice to have good news for once.

Dh scan showed only a small amount of growth but no new areas of mets. The plan is for him to have six weeks off then a blood test to check his tumour markers.

Phew 😅

Frikonastick · 12/03/2021 23:59

@loubieloo4!!!!! Oh wow that’s fantastic! So lovely to hear good news, cheered me up no end 😁😁😁 enjoy your weekend xxx

notapizzaeater · 13/03/2021 00:47

@loubieloo4 that's bloody brilliant xxx

notapizzaeater · 17/03/2021 16:39

Quick check in to make sure you're all ok.

Finally got the death in service benefit today ! Nearly 9 weeks - shocking. Still waiting on pensions etc.

Frikonastick · 18/03/2021 19:22

HD has his second infusion next week Wednesday. We are just in that waiting phase where we don’t know if the treatment is doing anything at all

notapizzaeater · 18/03/2021 19:56

@Frikonastick fingers crossed x

ClashCityRocker · 29/03/2021 09:23

Hello. I hope you don't mind the intrusion but noone in real life understands the current dilemma.

My beloved husband is currently receiving end of life care in hospital following failed treatment for head and neck cancer.

He currently has a tracheostomy and is peg fed, and has been for the last seven months - pretty much since he was diagnosed, although the trachy is a more recent addition.

The hospital have been great in many ways, however the ward he is on has been exceptionally quiet due to covid. As he needs pain relief every two hours in addition to the syringe driver there are concerns that when the ward becomes busier this won't be feasible and could leave him in pain.

So the options are hospice or hospice at home.

Our natural instinct is to get him home, however I don't know whether my/our desire to spend as much time together as possible in the last few days/weeks is making us not look at this objectively. The cons of being at home:

  • they have mentioned having a nurse present at all times, 24 hours a day. I'm not sure why, as even the nurses have said he doesn't require any nursing care beyond changing his trachy inner once or twice a day and pain relief. I can administer pain relief through his peg which has been confirmed by the ward nurses.
  • the house is small - one useable bedroom (which is where I'd sleep), a lounge/diner and a kitchen which we could probably squeeze a table in. Where would a nurse go? I just can't see how it would be practical.
  • he is at risk of a catastrophic bleed due to the location of the tumour. Aside from the devstation of losing him, this would be hugely distressing at home.

-can I cope? I think so. I have done so far. And actually with 24/7 nurses it'll be a damn sight less than I was doing before. Even with what I believe is the more usual package of district nurse/Marie curie I would have a lot more support.

So considering the hospice. It looks lovely, he would have his own room and some outside space and of course access to specialist nursing care and equipment 24/7. Cons:

  • Visiting in the time of covid. Currently one hour prebooked visits, lateral flow test before visit. And of course, if cases go up again who knows what will happen. At the hospital I am able to come and go as I please and currently spend around eight hours a day with him and have been able to stay overnight. Only one visitor allowed per day and only two different visitors in total.
  • Travel is approximately an hour each way via public transport. I don't think this is a huge issue but would feel better if he was closer.
  • Even at the final stage, no overnight visits. If he's actively dying, I'm turfed out at 8pm when visiting ends. Although I'm not sure how strictly this is enforced in practice.

It would be lovely to have him home - to be able to sit and Potter about around him, watch telly without the pressure of being in 'visiting' mode.

He is very much still himself, sleeping a bit more, can't talk clearly due to the tumour but communicates with writing and an app. Still takes pleasure out of things.

They gave him days to weeks to live at the begining of February. At present he seems as well now as he did back then, but we did have a blip initially when his breathing chanced ad I got the phone call so very aware it could all change in a moment.

My husband initially was adamant about going home, but is now considering whether the hospice might be the better option (it's mostly the 24/7 nurse in the house that has changed his mind on that one.)

We are having a chat with the palliative team today and have a list of questions.

Can anyone think of anything I may not have considered?