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Positive lesbian books/media for 11yo

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Lindtnotlint · 16/10/2026 23:31

My wonderful 11yo DD has told me she is pretty sure she is gay. It’s not a big deal to us and she isn’t worried about acceptance at home or school. She knows she can change her mind and nothing is set in stone (but I would say knowing her this maybe feels more like “real” vs an exploratory phase). She is well into puberty and mentally/physically really “old” for her age.

She specifically asked about getting more lesbian “material”. She feels quite exposed to gay men (not least among our friends) but is hungry for literature/TV/films etc that features lesbians. She isn’t really looking for romance - more just the presence of lesbians. Eg she loves Dr Who. She is a v advanced reader so even books that are older could be good. A lot of what you immediately come across has a bit too much trauma in! I have obv already got her Heartstopper.

and any recommendations for factual /‘self-help’ books directly designed for questioning teens would also be welcome - almost everything I can find online has a lot of “questioning your gender” elements mixed in, which she doesn’t want.

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SiegfriedSassoon · 17/10/2026 20:06

FrippEnos · 17/10/2026 20:05

Just to add to this, many of these books are allegedly AI generated.

I can believe it!

Bookwormmumuk · 17/10/2026 20:08

FrippEnos · 17/10/2026 20:04

What exactly is a "queer relationship" and how does it differ from LGB or hetrosexual?

A queer relationship is pretty self explanatory or so I thought a relationship between queer people be it a friendship or romantic relationship. Queer is just an umbrella term as its a 4 part series with a couple of novellas so they feature diffirent relationships across the series. Im no here to debate gender im here to reccomend books.

FrippEnos · 17/10/2026 20:11

Bookwormmumuk · 17/10/2026 20:08

A queer relationship is pretty self explanatory or so I thought a relationship between queer people be it a friendship or romantic relationship. Queer is just an umbrella term as its a 4 part series with a couple of novellas so they feature diffirent relationships across the series. Im no here to debate gender im here to reccomend books.

Given that the OP specifically asked for Lesbians in books.
It seems an odd thing to put forward especially as it is an obscure term that could do with explaining/defining.

BertieBotts · 17/10/2026 20:42

Becky Chambers is a real author and doesn't use AI. I have enjoyed her books. I think the reason a PP chose to use the word "queer" rather than LGB is because her books are sci-fi and some include fictional alien races with imaginary genders, lack of gender, etc, but there are also just bog standard human lesbians in the books as well.

There was an old webcomic I read years ago which got made into a book which I think would fit the bill - Yu+Me Dream - I loved this at the time, I remember following it when it was coming out. Looking at the author's other material, some of it is rather more explicit, but IIRC Yu+Me didn't really have much if any actual sex in it, and read much more like a teenage, coming of age type romance.

Lindtnotlint · 17/10/2026 20:44

It’s strange to me that people think having gay representation in books you read is “growing up too fast”. She isn’t asking for romance (or at least not beyond the level tonnes of YA books read by her age group have!). She is asking for positive lesbian representation. Eg a book in which the character happens to have two mums; a book in which the teen character’s distant unachievable crush happens to be a girl. Etc. This is all stuff you get the straight version of constantly in books at this age - especially if like her you read several books a week. I don’t think having gay representation in a book should need to be associated with it being overly “adult” and that’s why I asked for suitable material. And of course people don’t ask for book recommendations that offer straight role models - because that’s what the vast majority of books already do!!

I do of course know that she may well grow up to be straight (or bi or whatever), and I couldn’t really care less either way. But right now she is thinking about her sexuality and thinks she is likely gay - and I don’t think in this case it’s supportive and helpful to say “no dear, that’s not for you, just go back to playing with your spinning top”. Like I said above, I think knowing her very well as I do this is reasonably likely to be “real” - it’s not like she has randomly picked it up at school or whatever. She told me nobody at school is talking about it at all and she doesn’t know anybody at school her age who is gay, as an example. That’s partly why she wanted to talk about it as she says she has noticed she feels very interested and engaged when she sees even a tiny bit of gay representation.

On the “she is just a kid” stuff: she has had her periods for over a year and is fully developed. Possibly some of the people on here who are talking about 11 year old kids haven’t met a mature nearly 12 year old girl recently. Treating her like a nine year old on this stuff is really not going to fly - she wanted to talk about it and share it with me and discuss it properly and seriously, not have it brushed away.

It’s definitely true that some people are too young to know at this age and that lots of people wonder about their sexuality when young and end up straight. She knows all that and is very sensible about it. But it’s also true that some people know young that they are gay - certainly that’s what some of my gay friends describe. So you want to make it easy for her to change her mind and not at all feel a rush to label herself, but you also want to actively demonstrate that you support her if she is gay, make sure she feels comfortable talking to you about it, and show that you think it’s normal to have lesbians in the world -including in the world of books she reads and the TV she watches.

Also, I shouldn’t have to say this, but she is of course still a child in tonnes of ways. She spends most of her time playing team sports, reading books, messing about with her siblings, and drawing or doing random crafts. She has no social media or internet access. She is not exploring relationships or anything mature beyond maybe a bit of liking someone from a band.

obviously I am not going to give her a load of AI generated rubbish. That’s why I came to mumsnet for help!

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BertieBotts · 17/10/2026 20:44

Oh and Legend of Korra is a TV series which is action/superhero type storyline, but has a lesbian couple.

FrippEnos · 17/10/2026 20:48

BertieBotts · 17/10/2026 20:42

Becky Chambers is a real author and doesn't use AI. I have enjoyed her books. I think the reason a PP chose to use the word "queer" rather than LGB is because her books are sci-fi and some include fictional alien races with imaginary genders, lack of gender, etc, but there are also just bog standard human lesbians in the books as well.

There was an old webcomic I read years ago which got made into a book which I think would fit the bill - Yu+Me Dream - I loved this at the time, I remember following it when it was coming out. Looking at the author's other material, some of it is rather more explicit, but IIRC Yu+Me didn't really have much if any actual sex in it, and read much more like a teenage, coming of age type romance.

It's not authors like Becky Chambers that were being referred to when using AI.
In fact one of the Wachowski's was trying to push the wayfarers as a film. But that is another thread.

I fully admit that I have issues with the word queer as may LG friends still regard it as being a slur.

FrippEnos · 17/10/2026 20:48

BertieBotts · 17/10/2026 20:44

Oh and Legend of Korra is a TV series which is action/superhero type storyline, but has a lesbian couple.

As does the new Avatar series on paramount.

MindBodySoul · 18/10/2026 00:20

@AntonNewcombesHat pardon? I'm not being judgemental.. I have an 11 year old son. Showing interest in girls ... But I'm not about to run out and buy him books about heterosexual relationships any time soon... I have a 9 year old daughter who pretends to be a dog .. should I encourage her to believe she is an actual dog ..? They are children FFS

Lindtnotlint · 18/10/2026 00:22

You ARE buying him books about heterosexual relationships - assuming some of his books have married adults in, for example. 😁 You probably have even gone further and bought him books that have teen relationships in them- for example Harry Potter. 😁😁

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tokennamechange · 18/10/2026 00:48

Soontobe60 · 17/10/2026 17:59

“Queer relationships” - she’s just a kid FFS!

which is why nobody is recommending the joys of fisting, presumably.

Do you object to 11 year olds reading stories with straight relationships in them, or just gay ones? If the former that rules out anything more complex than Enid Blyton...

tokennamechange · 18/10/2026 00:50

Oh and OP, I'd recommend the Carmilla webseries, it's based on the vampire book, and although low budget is very fun and aimed at teen-ish audience, with nearly all the cast being lesbians, although for those afraid of sexual corruption there's nothing more intense than an occasional kiss.

ALLin26 · 18/10/2026 00:50

Thanks for posting this, @Lindtnotlint - you could literally be describing my daughter 😆 we had a similar chat a couple of weeks ago and I was impressed how thoughtful and nuanced she was. One of her reflections was that when her Grandad (old school, nearly 80) references her future boyfriends and husband, it makes her feel abnormal, as if it’s not even a consideration that she would have a female partner. And she said this is further compounded by the fact that all the books she reads are very heteronormative, which I realised is spot on, when I thought about it! I’ve bought her Lady’s Knight and the first two Heartstopper books, but really I want great books that feature gay relationships in a ‘no big deal’ kind of way, as I think that’s more what she wants than it necessarily being the focus of the book. Anyway, I’m rambling, but great question and I’ll post anything good that I come across ☺️

Baconsreallybad · 18/10/2026 01:19

tokennamechange · 18/10/2026 00:48

which is why nobody is recommending the joys of fisting, presumably.

Do you object to 11 year olds reading stories with straight relationships in them, or just gay ones? If the former that rules out anything more complex than Enid Blyton...

Omg listen to yourself. That is an absolutely disgusting and extremely creepy comment. Not clever, big or funny🤮

Clonakilla · 18/10/2026 02:26

I first read Jane Eyre at 8. I don't call my husband 'master'.

Most children with strong reading skills are reading a very wide range of things, including novels intended for adults, by 11. The OPs not asking if she should buy porn for her child, she's asking about books that depict lesbian relationships to add to the very very large number of books her child will have been reading her whole life that depict hetero relationships.

PorcupineConcubine · 18/10/2026 02:55

MindBodySoul · 18/10/2026 00:20

@AntonNewcombesHat pardon? I'm not being judgemental.. I have an 11 year old son. Showing interest in girls ... But I'm not about to run out and buy him books about heterosexual relationships any time soon... I have a 9 year old daughter who pretends to be a dog .. should I encourage her to believe she is an actual dog ..? They are children FFS

100%

all this woke nonsense and I must bend and force media down the kid’s throat because they mentioned once what they liked. Utter madness.

OP, she is 11. Let her be 11. And the themes in YA books are for young adults (that what the YA stands for…!). So 15-17, not 11-year olds. Why are you forcing her to grow up so quickly? Be a better parent and parent your child and let her have age appropriate material. Just because she mentioned she might like girls, doesn’t mean you need to excitedly go and buy every know book about lesbians with such glee!

PorcupineConcubine · 18/10/2026 02:59

“heteronormative” OMG I’ve read it all now. Yes heterosexuality is normal…because the human race wouldn’t survive if everyone was gay.

Shloopie · 18/10/2026 03:01

MindBodySoul · 18/10/2026 00:20

@AntonNewcombesHat pardon? I'm not being judgemental.. I have an 11 year old son. Showing interest in girls ... But I'm not about to run out and buy him books about heterosexual relationships any time soon... I have a 9 year old daughter who pretends to be a dog .. should I encourage her to believe she is an actual dog ..? They are children FFS

You wouldn't think twice if your 11 year old son was reading a sweet boy meets girl book. Lots of 11 year old boys know they fancy girls and lots of 11 year old girls know they fancy girls. Do try and grow up.

Shloopie · 18/10/2026 03:02

PorcupineConcubine · 18/10/2026 02:59

“heteronormative” OMG I’ve read it all now. Yes heterosexuality is normal…because the human race wouldn’t survive if everyone was gay.

deep breaths

user1492757084 · 18/10/2026 03:14

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user1492757084 · 18/10/2026 03:17

How about searching the library for boarding school books. They are full of girls relating to each other in an all female environment, and triumphing. Mallory Towers etc.
And Miss Phryne Fisher, detective.

Redplasticboat · 18/10/2026 03:32

Undercover princess. Fun boarding school based series where the 2 girls start questioning their relationship in later books. I think they end up together at the end. Just her age range too.

DebbieSavage · 18/10/2026 03:39

It's good to see that kids these days are concerned about real life human rights issues, combating racism in society and protesting the exclusion of LGBTQIA+ society in heteronormative literature, instead of just playing dress up with dolls or fantasising about dinosaurs. Your child sounds amazing OP!

FantasyFoodhall · 18/10/2026 04:30

Maybe a bit young (?) but I think Robin Steven’s books have well-written lesbian characters (or so one of my dc told me!)

I thought Buffy might be fun to re-watch too and I have to say I wouldn’t care to have my 11yr old watching quite a lot of it after series 2. The Tara/Willow story is great though.