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What’s the legal repercussions of speaking out online anonymously about certain things may know of a person we may know of called Andrew, and his friends?

67 replies

2026anon · 12/02/2026 08:59

Just wondering where on the internet is safe to speak about it anonymously with no personal repercussions (financial and personal repercussions)?

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DiySteve · 12/02/2026 09:19

The ultimate consequences are that you end up in litigation for libel/defamation - I would not rely on supposed internet anonymity to protect you.

Assuming what you write is not untrue, you may still be dragged through litigation and may be asked to demonstrate you can cover security for costs, until a hearing/outcome.

The question would be - what are you looking to achieve?

BellyPork · 12/02/2026 09:21

I'm all ears...

2026anon · 12/02/2026 09:22

DiySteve · 12/02/2026 09:19

The ultimate consequences are that you end up in litigation for libel/defamation - I would not rely on supposed internet anonymity to protect you.

Assuming what you write is not untrue, you may still be dragged through litigation and may be asked to demonstrate you can cover security for costs, until a hearing/outcome.

The question would be - what are you looking to achieve?

Is it best just telling what I know to a journalist? Keeping anonymity that way?

I know of one I helped with research on something else in the past and have her contact details still.

What do I want to achieve? ..these terrible people to be answerable. (Like a lot of people do)

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DiySteve · 12/02/2026 09:27

2026anon · 12/02/2026 09:22

Is it best just telling what I know to a journalist? Keeping anonymity that way?

I know of one I helped with research on something else in the past and have her contact details still.

What do I want to achieve? ..these terrible people to be answerable. (Like a lot of people do)

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Your actions are laudible, although I will not ask ‘why now?’

Yes, you are right - approaching a journalist is probably the way to go. They will naturally want to check the veracity of what you say. Also worth bearing in mind whether the journo represents a left or right wing media outlet….if you get my drift.

Good luck.

2026anon · 12/02/2026 09:30

DiySteve · 12/02/2026 09:27

Your actions are laudible, although I will not ask ‘why now?’

Yes, you are right - approaching a journalist is probably the way to go. They will naturally want to check the veracity of what you say. Also worth bearing in mind whether the journo represents a left or right wing media outlet….if you get my drift.

Good luck.

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Can you explain the left or right wing media?

Sorry I’m really not on it with politics..

Why now.. because people are now finally speaking about it.

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prh47bridge · 12/02/2026 09:40

Note that making allegations to a journalist does not protect you from being sued for libel. If you are identified as the source of the information, the people about whom you are making allegations can still sue you, which can be very costly unless you can prove that your allegations are true or one of the other defences applies. If you are not named as the source the courts will not force the journalist to reveal their sources so you are safe, but a piece that reports anonymous sources making allegations against someone carries much less weight than a piece that names those making the allegations.

Left wing media = media that generally supports Labour or expresses left wing views (the Guardian, the Mirror, the Independent, etc.)

Right wing media = media that generally supports the Conservatives or Reform, or expresses right wing views (the Telegraph, the Times, the Express, the Mail, the Sun).

DiySteve · 12/02/2026 09:43

2026anon · 12/02/2026 09:30

Can you explain the left or right wing media?

Sorry I’m really not on it with politics..

Why now.. because people are now finally speaking about it.

With respect to timing, there was a high profile interview back in November 2019, so this scandal has really had ‘legs’ since that summer.

As to media bias, I prefer to leave that to you to research.

godmum56 · 12/02/2026 10:17

2026anon · 12/02/2026 08:59

Just wondering where on the internet is safe to speak about it anonymously with no personal repercussions (financial and personal repercussions)?

why would you want to speak out on SM and not take what you know to the police?

2026anon · 12/02/2026 10:42

DiySteve · 12/02/2026 09:43

With respect to timing, there was a high profile interview back in November 2019, so this scandal has really had ‘legs’ since that summer.

As to media bias, I prefer to leave that to you to research.

I feel people are taking it more seriously now, since the past started to surface like you said, many years ago.
Now there’s more evidence coming, for all to see, others experiences or knowledge will be taken seriously. Before, there was no point unless to be ridiculed. Hence why some people haven’t shared before.
I’m still un sure, but the least I can do is share what know of the fixers so they are atleast answerable. I don’t know..
This whole new public developments and public awareness is eating me and a few others I know up, affecting mental health. It’s hard being a mother now knowing what was wrong and what people may still do to others to affect their lives if this current insight into it all isn’t.. somehow bringing knowledge to the public’s awareness.

There are more UK organisers out there just like the former Brit we now know of in prison. Being compensated by wealthy individuals. If anything can just go to help uncover them and try break some of their chains / network. It’s better than nothing?

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2026anon · 12/02/2026 10:46

godmum56 · 12/02/2026 10:17

why would you want to speak out on SM and not take what you know to the police?

Do you really think the police are something that’s safe in all this right now? Who controls the police. High up people.

Social Media is not the place, perhaps a trustworthy like Steve said, the right side of the press, journalist may be best. So they can pursue the info given how they see fit.

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DiySteve · 12/02/2026 10:57

OP, I think you need to confide in someone you trust, first.

MN has its limitations.

Good luck.

MissMoneyFairy · 12/02/2026 11:01

If you have evidence of a crime or an allegation then you go to the police, does the affected person want you to disclose this information.

2026anon · 12/02/2026 11:23

MissMoneyFairy · 12/02/2026 11:01

If you have evidence of a crime or an allegation then you go to the police, does the affected person want you to disclose this information.

I am the person.

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XelaM · 12/02/2026 11:36

I can't believe the replies so far. Has Andrew infiltrated Mumsnet? Of course you can take it to a journalist and write about your experience as long as what you say is true.

It's in the public interest for these men to be held to account (at least in the media).

BeepBoopBoop · 12/02/2026 11:41

There's little point anonymously posting online because you won't be able to verify your story and won't be believed.

If you don't want to or don't feel able to contact the police then I would suggest a well regarded investigative journalist. Chloe Hadjimatheou is the first name that comes to mind - known for exposing The Salt Path scandal. She may not be interested but could suggest other trusted journalists working on the story. Another possibility could be to look for previous Orwell Journalism finalists who are interested in these kind of stories.

As you are concerned with your safety, you should consider your internet security before contacting anyone. As a minimum I would use a secure email provider such as Proton (free). You could also consider using a VPN (Proton also has a free tier VPN) and the Tor browser when connecting to the email account to further reduce the chance of the emails being traceable to you. If a journalist did want to go ahead with your story, they would ultimately need to verify your identity but they should know how to do so in a way to keep you safe.

ProfessorRedshoeblueshoe · 12/02/2026 11:44

All the people saying go to the police, Ian Watkins XGF went to the police. They said she was a lying jealous X. Lots of people went regarding Saville, and others. High profile people are believed over ordinary people -all the time.

BeepBoopBoop · 12/02/2026 11:54

XelaM · 12/02/2026 11:36

I can't believe the replies so far. Has Andrew infiltrated Mumsnet? Of course you can take it to a journalist and write about your experience as long as what you say is true.

It's in the public interest for these men to be held to account (at least in the media).

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It's sensible not to underestimate how much power the people involved with Epstein have or had on the internet. There's some evidence that Ghislaine Maxwell may have been a big moderator on Reddit. Christopher Poole (founder of 4chan) met Epstein the day before setting up the /pol/ board (arguably the staging ground of the current far-right movement). And in real life too of course (e.g. Epstein's "suicide").

HappyFace2025 · 12/02/2026 11:57

2026anon · 12/02/2026 09:30

Can you explain the left or right wing media?

Sorry I’m really not on it with politics..

Why now.. because people are now finally speaking about it.

Because whether right or left wing, all media has a political stance e.g. Reform = right wing aka Daily Mail, Telegraph; Greens = left wing aka Guardian

Alouest · 12/02/2026 12:37

This may be helpful (how to contact the Guardian securely): https://www.theguardian.com/tips

U53rName · 12/02/2026 13:05

I too would have zero confidence in the police. Andrew has been wanted by the US for years, and all the police have done is protect him and his interests. Serving of papers regarding the lawsuit were attempted repeatedly, and the police shielded him from it.

I think coming forward (even if anonymously) is very brave. Every small piece of the puzzle helps to add to the bigger picture.

TheAutumnCrow · 12/02/2026 13:24

I would contact this journalist, @2026anon, for an initial conversation about where you might go with your information/disclosure.

Amy Gibbons obviously ‘gets it’. I have been saying on MN unfettered for at least a year now (i.e. no-one has contacted me, no-one has stopped me), that Andrew M-W appears up to his neck in it in sex trafficking and abuse in the UK, the US and Thailand, going on the available evidence.

Here’s a useful link to Amy Gibbons’s writing from earlier today, and I’ve added an archive link asxwell which isn’t paywalled.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/02/12/gordon-brown-police-interview-andrew-sex-trafficking/

archive.ph/k2FFX

Gordon Brown is calling for an inquiry, basically. The headline is very blunt:

Gordon Brown: Police must interview Andrew over sex trafficking
Former PM wants inquiry to examine Mountbatten-Windsor’s alleged links to Epstein flights through Stansted airport

I doubt anyone can libel Andrew now. He has no reputation or credibility left. It’s out there.

Alltheyellowbirds · 12/02/2026 13:26

2026anon · 12/02/2026 08:59

Just wondering where on the internet is safe to speak about it anonymously with no personal repercussions (financial and personal repercussions)?

If your aim is to get the story out there then I would contact a newspaper like the Guardian. Their lawyers will do all the necessary legal checks before publishing.

Mulledjuice · 12/02/2026 13:27

2026anon · 12/02/2026 09:22

Is it best just telling what I know to a journalist? Keeping anonymity that way?

I know of one I helped with research on something else in the past and have her contact details still.

What do I want to achieve? ..these terrible people to be answerable. (Like a lot of people do)

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Then speak to the police?

2026anon · 12/02/2026 13:29

Just feel so sick right now, have done for weeks. The anger is all consuming because we know there will be no true justice. Need to think it through. It’s affecting mental health daily had it not been number one thing everywhere on social media which is less controlled than the news sites.
Wanted to delete all access to it but also part of me wants to be ‘aware’ in case it is time to speak up, if others in the UK who came in contact with these people are coming out. It’s affecting mental health daily functioning around my daughter daily, and no one to confide in. The girl from ‘that time’ I knew well committed suicide yrs ago. Theres no one I can deal with this with.

HE is guilty.
She is guilty but atleast she’s in prison.
Her disgusting ‘friend’ is dead.
The others, will get away with it.

It is literally suffocating knowing we know this is above the law. Above people being made answerable. That we are aware we live in a world that this is how it just is.

I won’t say anymore, going to take few days off the internet for my mental state. But I honestly have no belief in anything right now

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2026anon · 12/02/2026 13:39

Thanks, just seen the recent replies on post since was writing my last reply. Going to have think about it. Appreciate the responses with appropriate sources to maybe contact.

If anyone out there knows of similar things from their time as a very young woman who were UK based.
If this resonates with you.
Perhaps came into contact with a woman/fixer who was under the radar (like the woman I won’t name who is currently in prison that we all know of) that was organising things for these disgusting men. Please reach out by PM. If anything can be done, at least breaking some of the chains of the few people who organise for these men who think they were or are untouchable. If you’ve met them, you’ll know. London based.

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