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Neighbour dispute

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finallyhappyinlife · 19/12/2025 22:36

In may 2024 we had our drive paved by a local businessman . We are very happy with the work he did for us however the white residue from the hardcore he used underneath the blocks has run onto our neighbours drive leaving a strip of lighter tarmac which shows up when her drive is dry . She is extremely unhappy as expected and I have made several attempts to get the workmen back to discuss this issue however he flatly refuses . I have been totally civil with neighbour agreeing that it’s unacceptable and I have tried many many times to get him to sort this issue . I have ended up falling out with the owner of the business as I believe he is totally out of order . He refuses to speak to my neighbour saying she is just jealous of us having the work done . This has caused us immense stress and she has stopped speaking to us . Earlier in the year her son said she was going to have a fence installed between us and was that ok ? I said that’s up to you as we cannot stop your mum doing anything on her own property and it was no business of ours . This fence has never materialised .
Now today I have received a recorded letter saying she has been advised to get 3 quotes for re tarmacing the whole drive . The quotes range from £8800 to £11000 as she is asking us to pay for this work .
She is asking us to respond within 14 days or she will take it to small claims court .
I feel she should be sending said letter to the workmen who did the work and ruined her drive . Am I wrong ? Why should we pay out £10000 approx for the workmen’s error . And advice would be much appreciated on our rights and the next steps for us to take .

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finallyhappyinlife · 20/12/2025 21:04

KhakiReader · 20/12/2025 20:09

My Husbands a tarmacer..he paints our drive every year with black tarmac restorer to make it black again..maybe this would be the answer ? It's called Drive Seal and you apply with a long handled roller....drive will be black again looking good as new...and about £20 a big tin

Does he have any advice on the best way to resolve this situ apart from painting it which concerns me if she’s not happy still after it’s done

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HelplessSoul · 20/12/2025 21:05

finallyhappyinlife · 20/12/2025 21:04

Does he have any advice on the best way to resolve this situ apart from painting it which concerns me if she’s not happy still after it’s done

Best advice is to tell the arrogant neighbour to go and get fucked! 👍

godmum56 · 20/12/2025 21:06

MissMoneyFairy · 20/12/2025 21:01

This should of been resolved as soon as it happened, if the contractor didn't respond an independent specialist should have come out, assessed and traced the cause., it's dragged on too long and now relationships have all broken down which both parties may need to declare in the future if they want to sell , no one will buy either house with this ongoing issue,

This definitely. Several years ago I had a gas engineer visit my house. As he left, he drove straight across my neighbour's lawn. I didn't see it but my neighbour did and came over and spoke to me. I apologised, took photos and that same day I contacted the company, and complained. The company offered a compensation payment which I relayed to my neighbour and he accepted so I gave him the amount out of my own pocket so he didn't have to wait for the company to pay out. Job done, no stress and we remain friends.

finallyhappyinlife · 20/12/2025 21:07

CautiousLurker2 · 20/12/2025 21:00

But it’s not ‘damaged’ - it still functions as a drive. It has a stain, and steps need to be made to remedy that - chemical cleaning or resealing/painting for example.

As an analogy: If the some kids in your street came and threw paint at the brick work of your house, would you sue to have the wall rebuilt? Or would you sue to have it professionally cleaned (and possibly repointed)? The wall is not damaged - it still functions as a wall, supporting the roof and windows within it, but it is cosmetically stained. The restitution isn’t a new wall, it’s restoring the wall to an unstained version of itself.

The drive is no different. OP should get a tarmac restorer to advise on remedial steps.

This makes perfect sense … the question is will she agree ?

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godmum56 · 20/12/2025 21:10

CautiousLurker2 · 20/12/2025 21:00

But it’s not ‘damaged’ - it still functions as a drive. It has a stain, and steps need to be made to remedy that - chemical cleaning or resealing/painting for example.

As an analogy: If the some kids in your street came and threw paint at the brick work of your house, would you sue to have the wall rebuilt? Or would you sue to have it professionally cleaned (and possibly repointed)? The wall is not damaged - it still functions as a wall, supporting the roof and windows within it, but it is cosmetically stained. The restitution isn’t a new wall, it’s restoring the wall to an unstained version of itself.

The drive is no different. OP should get a tarmac restorer to advise on remedial steps.

But surely in either case steps should be taken to prevent a recurrence?

finallyhappyinlife · 20/12/2025 21:14

godmum56 · 20/12/2025 21:06

This definitely. Several years ago I had a gas engineer visit my house. As he left, he drove straight across my neighbour's lawn. I didn't see it but my neighbour did and came over and spoke to me. I apologised, took photos and that same day I contacted the company, and complained. The company offered a compensation payment which I relayed to my neighbour and he accepted so I gave him the amount out of my own pocket so he didn't have to wait for the company to pay out. Job done, no stress and we remain friends.

But I have tried to get the person responsible to come back and discuss resolutions with the neighbour many many times to no avail . If only it was that easy ..

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finallyhappyinlife · 20/12/2025 21:15

HelplessSoul · 20/12/2025 21:05

Best advice is to tell the arrogant neighbour to go and get fucked! 👍

😮

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grumpygrape · 20/12/2025 21:17

finallyhappyinlife · 20/12/2025 21:14

But I have tried to get the person responsible to come back and discuss resolutions with the neighbour many many times to no avail . If only it was that easy ..

OP, I know you have said you don’t have Legal assistance on your House Insurance but does the insurance include 3rd Party Liability ? It might be worth checking with your insurer what would happen if your neighbour decided to make a formal claim against you.

HelplessSoul · 20/12/2025 21:19

finallyhappyinlife · 20/12/2025 21:14

But I have tried to get the person responsible to come back and discuss resolutions with the neighbour many many times to no avail . If only it was that easy ..

This then proves that the NDNs angle is to somehow coerce/force you into ponying up for an all new drive to replace the aged one they have now.

MissMoneyFairy · 20/12/2025 21:20

finallyhappyinlife · 20/12/2025 21:14

But I have tried to get the person responsible to come back and discuss resolutions with the neighbour many many times to no avail . If only it was that easy ..

Perhaps, in hindsight, as he didn't respond one of you could have got someone else to have a look or gone through your insurance.

NoWordForFluffy · 20/12/2025 21:24

grumpygrape · 20/12/2025 21:17

OP, I know you have said you don’t have Legal assistance on your House Insurance but does the insurance include 3rd Party Liability ? It might be worth checking with your insurer what would happen if your neighbour decided to make a formal claim against you.

I've mentioned this twice and she's ignored me.

CautiousLurker2 · 20/12/2025 21:29

finallyhappyinlife · 20/12/2025 21:07

This makes perfect sense … the question is will she agree ?

Think this is why you need to speak to a solicitor and also find a local tarmac/ drive restoration specialist to consult? Maybe three and get quotes so you can counter the NDNs claim. I’d also chat with them to see if they feel the issue that triggered the stain has resolved (drive substrate has settled etc) or whether there may be an issue with the drainage channel that may mean it is ongoing (know you feel it’s not got any worse, but I’d make sure so the issue can be resolved in one go?) The latter means you, too, could seek damages against your tradesman if it evolves that he has made a mistake and you have to rectify it?

Not sure if that makes sense? [Just clocked my head on a sink and have an egg, so am sitting with an ice pack and got the kids doing concussion checks 🤦🏽‍♀️]

godmum56 · 20/12/2025 21:31

finallyhappyinlife · 20/12/2025 21:14

But I have tried to get the person responsible to come back and discuss resolutions with the neighbour many many times to no avail . If only it was that easy ..

my point is I made sure to sort it FAST. If the company hadn't responded quickly , then I would have put the screws on them in some way and not just faffed about for 18 months. I mean did you ever get any advice from anyone like Trading Standards to get this sorted?

godmum56 · 20/12/2025 21:32

NoWordForFluffy · 20/12/2025 21:24

I've mentioned this twice and she's ignored me.

who has ignored you? the insurer?

godmum56 · 20/12/2025 21:33

CautiousLurker2 · 20/12/2025 21:29

Think this is why you need to speak to a solicitor and also find a local tarmac/ drive restoration specialist to consult? Maybe three and get quotes so you can counter the NDNs claim. I’d also chat with them to see if they feel the issue that triggered the stain has resolved (drive substrate has settled etc) or whether there may be an issue with the drainage channel that may mean it is ongoing (know you feel it’s not got any worse, but I’d make sure so the issue can be resolved in one go?) The latter means you, too, could seek damages against your tradesman if it evolves that he has made a mistake and you have to rectify it?

Not sure if that makes sense? [Just clocked my head on a sink and have an egg, so am sitting with an ice pack and got the kids doing concussion checks 🤦🏽‍♀️]

That makes perfect sense! sorry to hear you have clouted yourself.

Livelovebehappy · 20/12/2025 21:36

Firstly I would contact your contractor again, tell him that your neighbour is threatening to take you to court for £10k plus, and say that if this happens, and you have to pay, then he should be aware that you will then come after him through the courts to recoup the money. It might give him a bit of a kick up the arse to realise this is ultimately going to impact him and his business. If he’s in the drive/tarmac business, he will probably have knowledge of other repair options, and might then volunteer to try to repair without the need for a new drive,

grumpygrape · 20/12/2025 21:43

NoWordForFluffy · 20/12/2025 21:24

I've mentioned this twice and she's ignored me.

Apologies, I’ve been skimming posts and only checked all of the OP’s.

This is what I would have done first thing after getting nowhere with the contractor on the first or second attempt.

finallyhappyinlife · 20/12/2025 21:48

grumpygrape · 20/12/2025 21:17

OP, I know you have said you don’t have Legal assistance on your House Insurance but does the insurance include 3rd Party Liability ? It might be worth checking with your insurer what would happen if your neighbour decided to make a formal claim against you.

I will definitely ask that as someone previously mentioned that . Thanks

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NoWordForFluffy · 20/12/2025 21:50

godmum56 · 20/12/2025 21:32

who has ignored you? the insurer?

Eh? I've told the OP to call her home insurer and ask about the public liability cover she should have as part of her home insurance.

finallyhappyinlife · 20/12/2025 21:51

NoWordForFluffy · 20/12/2025 21:24

I've mentioned this twice and she's ignored me.

So sorry not intentional … I am definitely going to check this . The lady I spoke to at my insurance company today did not fill me with much confidence when I questioned them

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AngelicKaty · 20/12/2025 21:52

HelplessSoul · 20/12/2025 21:05

Best advice is to tell the arrogant neighbour to go and get fucked! 👍

"Best" advice? 😂😂😂 That's terrible advice.
OP needs to respond to the LBA in a positive way to avert her NDN from making a court claim, which would only add to OP's costs if her NDN were to win - her NDN's costs could be added plus 8% statutory interest on the award back-dated at least 18 months. It will also be a lot more stressful and time-consuming for OP to defend legal action rather than trying to arrive at a compromise solution - OP should offer to go to mediation to achieve this.
And OP's NDN isn't "arrogant" - she's, rightly, damned annoyed!

finallyhappyinlife · 20/12/2025 21:53

Livelovebehappy · 20/12/2025 21:36

Firstly I would contact your contractor again, tell him that your neighbour is threatening to take you to court for £10k plus, and say that if this happens, and you have to pay, then he should be aware that you will then come after him through the courts to recoup the money. It might give him a bit of a kick up the arse to realise this is ultimately going to impact him and his business. If he’s in the drive/tarmac business, he will probably have knowledge of other repair options, and might then volunteer to try to repair without the need for a new drive,

I was thinking of doing that tbh thank you

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NoWordForFluffy · 20/12/2025 21:53

finallyhappyinlife · 20/12/2025 21:51

So sorry not intentional … I am definitely going to check this . The lady I spoke to at my insurance company today did not fill me with much confidence when I questioned them

You need to make sure you tell them that your neighbour is threatening court proceedings and ask who would deal with the claim against you.

AngelicKaty · 20/12/2025 21:56

HelplessSoul · 20/12/2025 21:19

This then proves that the NDNs angle is to somehow coerce/force you into ponying up for an all new drive to replace the aged one they have now.

Er, what? It doesn't prove that at all. It's the tradesman who won't engage with OP's NDN, not the other way round. 🙄

BrokenWingsCantFly · 20/12/2025 21:59

PrettyPickle · 20/12/2025 17:52

Sorry but you haven't been pro-active as you haven't addressed the issue your neighbour has a problem with and you have had ample time. You are responsible for dealing with the issue because it arose from work you commissioned, but you are not obliged to simply pay for whatever your neighbour demands. The remedy must be reasonable and proportionate.

  1. Don’t agree to re‑tarmacking yet - Your neighbour is understandably upset, but a full re‑tarmac is a big ask unless the staining is severe and cannot be cleaned. You’re not automatically liable for whatever remedy she demands.
Before committing to anything, you need:
  • An assessment of the damage
  • A professional opinion on whether it can be cleaned or repaired without resurfacing
This protects you from being pushed into unnecessary costs.
  1. Give the contractor one final, formal chance - Contractors often respond when things become “official.” Send a written notice (email + recorded letter) stating:
  • The issue (hardcore leaching and staining)
  • That the neighbour is demanding remedial work
  • That you expect them to return and fix the problem within a reasonable timeframe (e.g., 7–14 days)
  • That if they fail to respond, you will have to seek alternative contractors and pursue them for the costs
This creates a paper trail if you later need to recover money.
  1. Get an independent assessment - Bring in a reputable driveway or tarmac specialist to:
  • Inspect the staining
  • Advise whether cleaning, sealing, or patching is possible
  • Provide a written quote
Often, these stains can be removed or significantly improved without resurfacing the entire drive. This gives you:
  • Evidence
  • A realistic cost
  • A basis for negotiation with your neighbour
  1. Talk to your neighbour with evidence in hand - Once you know what the damage actually requires:
  • Explain that you’re taking responsibility by arranging proper assessments
  • Show them the professional opinion
  • Offer the appropriate remedy (cleaning/repair or resurfacing if truly necessary)
Most neighbours calm down when they see you’re acting reasonably and not dismissing the issue.
  1. If the contractor still refuses - Given you have no legal cover on your insurance, you have two options:
A. Small claims court (UK) - You can pursue the contractor for:
  • The cost of repairs
  • Any additional losses caused by their negligence
This is common in cases of poor workmanship or damage to third-party property. B. Trading Standards / Citizens Advice - If the contractor is ignoring you, reporting them can add pressure and help you understand your rights.

If you go either of the above two routes at 5, which I would strongly recommend if the contractor refuses to put it right, then you will need all of the above info to prove your case above them

The best advise on here.

Most contractors will have public liability insurance, they would be reckless not too when there are a lot worse things that could happen than a stained drive (injuring a passing pedestrian for example). Also if he have ever had a contract with a larger contractor, they would insist on it. For minor things like this, most contractors would prefer to rectify issues themselves at their own cost mind.

I only have experience from a contractors perspective when issues occur from defects in subcontractors work. In this case there is always a contract in place and we are usually using them on other contracts or ongoing work. In these cases there is a defects liability period of 12 months where any issue arises the subcontractors have the opportunity to put if right themselves. If they refuse or don't do it in a given time period in line with what the above poster said, we then carry out the rectification ourselves or get another subcontractor to do it and contra charge them. A lot easier in our case where we have payments for other work to take it out of.

They still have liability for their defects outside of this initial period, but they lose the automatic right to do it themselves, we could pay someone else to do it then try and claim from them but in most cases the cost isn't worth it for minor things, so if there is no ongoing relationship we often just swallow the cost. But as a larger company with our client relationship the most important thing, we just get it done swiftly to keep them happy. This has included times where a subcontractor was no longer trading and their work had damaged a neighbouring property. Understandably as an individual who has hired a professional to carry out the work, you don't want to swallow the cost yourself.

Just follow the steps of the previous poster, that is the best course of action. Your only issue would be if he had ceased trading. If you don't want to go though all the hassle then just offer up the staining yourself. It's good stuff and will look like new if you ignore her holes. If you make the offer though, is there anyway you can do it so you have evidence by messages or emails?

All the other posters thinking you should just pay out 10k for a new drive when the colour is the issue, not the structure 😂 like they would fork that out if they were in the same boat. Who just had 10k sitting in the bank anyway. You should have pushed the contractor to do this straight away, but NDN taking the piss thinking she can get a new drive out of this. If he dropped something on it and took a chunk out, that would only make him liable for a patch repair. Seems like the only reason she is pushing it further now is because her drive has worn further and she knows she needs a new drive and you are her best bet.