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Ruined Holiday, how to claim compenstation?

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Queenofheart · 19/11/2024 15:49

We have just returned from a holiday where the hotel was in a horrendous state, absolute filth and nothing like what was advertised.

Whilst there I contacted the holiday company to tell them about the issues and that I would be writing to them on my return, I was just contacting them to log the complaint. I didn't want them to contact the hotel whilst there due to possible repercussions from the staff that were quite agressive when I asked to move rooms.

I have written a three page letter and sent nearly 40 images of the issues. I have been offered £171 and £100 off my next holiday with them which I have told them is unacceptable, due to the holiday being completely ruined and them being in breach of contract.

They have come back to me and said they are unable to consider my request for further reimbursement.

I want to take this further as we spent 10 days at a place that was not fit for purpose, a lot of the facilities advertised where not available, it was completely ruined.

I thought I could complain to ABTA but they can’t award compensation, or require their members to offer compensation in disputes.

Has anyone got any advise on how I take this further, am I looking at a small claim court?
thank you

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Queenofheart · 19/11/2024 17:11

DancefloorAcrobatics · 19/11/2024 17:07

All things listed by OP are sub standard and I can understand the complaint.... but please read the small print in regards to entertainment/ facilities. Often there is a clause about reduced availability in off peak season or at very beginning/ end of the season. (In that respect, you get what you pay for...)

I looked for that small print before putting it in my letter and it isn't there

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CandidFinch · 19/11/2024 17:13

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mitogoshigg · 19/11/2024 17:30

The lack of facilities at the end of the season I suspect is hidden in the small print, tour operators have clauses stating this as they cannot guarantee what a hotel has precisely. But, and a big but it should be clean and there should be a full bar, an entertainment choice etc available even if there isn't more than one.

Which operator? If TUI it depends partly if they own the hotel in which case they should know the offer, otherwise if they don't or it's jet 2, easyJet or similar then there is an ombudsman to arbitrate. If internet only type good luck, on the beach is particularly bad at this sort of thing

bellocchild · 19/11/2024 17:45

Feelingstrange2 · 19/11/2024 16:00

What was the holiday cost to compare the refund to it?

I doubt you'd be able to claim much as you stayed. I do understand it's not easy nowadays to change if the staff push back as everything seems to be online and there aren't many people around with any power to actually action. All you want to do is have a holiday, not spend hours chasing issues up. I guess these companies know this and I suspect it will be a similar story now you are home.

In my experience I grab a bit of discount, report accurately on tripadvisor, and then move on. I wouldn't be wasting any more time on it once I'd said my piece and hopefully received a few bob to buy a drink with.

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A full and frank - but not rude! - report on Google, as well as Trip Advisor and all the other travel sites you can find them on, will give you a sense of satisfaction and annoy them. Reputational damage matters quite a lot to most organisations.

WallaceinAnderland · 19/11/2024 17:50

You need to be careful in your claims. You say the place was not fit for purpose yet you stayed there for your whole holiday out of choice. It does rather sound like you are wanting a free holiday. That's not my opinion, btw, just how it comes across the way you've worded it.

NC10125 · 19/11/2024 17:56

In your position I would write to the CEO (if you google their details will be online) with:

  • a copy of your original letter
  • a copy of all of the photos
  • a copy of the email where they offer you compensation
  • exactly what compensation you are hoping to receive
  • say in your letter that if you are still unhappy that you will be considering next steps, but that you wanted to give them the opportunity to rectify things before doing anything which might potentially cause reputation damage

Good luck!

Isatis · 19/11/2024 17:57

helpfulperson · 19/11/2024 15:54

For any compensation to be due you have to offer the opportunity to put right the issues. You didn't do this.

If it was that bad why didn't you tell the company you couldn't stay and wanted them to arrange alternative accommodation or flights home.

OP confirmed in the original post that she raised the issues while she was there.

DameCelia · 19/11/2024 18:01

There's an arbitration scheme which most companies are signed up to. Ask for details and go through it.

MissMoneyFairy · 19/11/2024 18:04

Isatis · 19/11/2024 17:57

OP confirmed in the original post that she raised the issues while she was there.

I think op only asked to change rooms in the same hotel

SweetBobby · 19/11/2024 18:04

OP you're ignoring what people are saying. You are not entitled to a refund because you stayed there.

Would you go to a restaurant, complain your meal was crap but then eat the whole thing and still want your money back?

MissMoneyFairy · 19/11/2024 18:21

Queenofheart · 19/11/2024 16:39

I did give the holiday company an opportunity to rectify things by asking to move and they said they were unable to do that.
I am not expecting a refund of the whole amount, no, but more than £171.

Did they say why they couldn't move you, I thought you didn't move because you were scared of any repercussions.,

Flossflower · 19/11/2024 18:34

About 20 years ago, I went on holiday and didn’t get the accommodation we had ordered. I spent a whole day sorting this out with the rep and hotel. I wrote a a long letter when I got home and put in a claim for one seventh of our holiday costs. The holiday company only gave me a small amount compensation. I refused this and went to the small claims court. In the next few days I had a cheque for the full amount I claimed.

kawabungah · 19/11/2024 18:35

Queenofheart · 19/11/2024 15:49

We have just returned from a holiday where the hotel was in a horrendous state, absolute filth and nothing like what was advertised.

Whilst there I contacted the holiday company to tell them about the issues and that I would be writing to them on my return, I was just contacting them to log the complaint. I didn't want them to contact the hotel whilst there due to possible repercussions from the staff that were quite agressive when I asked to move rooms.

I have written a three page letter and sent nearly 40 images of the issues. I have been offered £171 and £100 off my next holiday with them which I have told them is unacceptable, due to the holiday being completely ruined and them being in breach of contract.

They have come back to me and said they are unable to consider my request for further reimbursement.

I want to take this further as we spent 10 days at a place that was not fit for purpose, a lot of the facilities advertised where not available, it was completely ruined.

I thought I could complain to ABTA but they can’t award compensation, or require their members to offer compensation in disputes.

Has anyone got any advise on how I take this further, am I looking at a small claim court?
thank you

I’m going to guess this is Jet2 Holidays?

BridasShieldWall · 19/11/2024 19:24

SweetBobby · 19/11/2024 18:04

OP you're ignoring what people are saying. You are not entitled to a refund because you stayed there.

Would you go to a restaurant, complain your meal was crap but then eat the whole thing and still want your money back?

That is wrong, there is a contract with the holiday company contracting to provide a holiday of a certain standard that is safe and hygienic. The OP is entitled to that, she tried to mitigate her loss (in the substandard and unsafe accommodation) by asking to move hotels and the holiday company refused to move her. Her options to move may be limited, there may not be other hotels near by or she may not have transport to get there. That she didn’t move doesn’t mean she then accepts the substandard holiday but it may mean that she did get some benefit so that any damages / refund is reduced. If she had left the hotel it does not mean that she would get a refund, the holiday company could argue that she just didn’t like that hotel and then she would have paid the original holiday plus any additional costs because she moved.

prh47bridge · 19/11/2024 19:36

Those saying OP is not entitled to a refund are wrong. She may well be.

The first question is who is liable - the holiday company or the hotel. If the holiday company were acting as agents for the hotel, any claim would be against the hotel. If they were not acting as agents, the claim would be against the holiday company.

If the claim would be against the hotel, OP's failure to complain to them at the time may reduce the value of her claim. However, since she did complain to the holiday company that isn't an issue if they are liable.

If she needs to go down the legal route, this would be a small claim.

Queenofheart · 19/11/2024 21:21

mitogoshigg · 19/11/2024 17:30

The lack of facilities at the end of the season I suspect is hidden in the small print, tour operators have clauses stating this as they cannot guarantee what a hotel has precisely. But, and a big but it should be clean and there should be a full bar, an entertainment choice etc available even if there isn't more than one.

Which operator? If TUI it depends partly if they own the hotel in which case they should know the offer, otherwise if they don't or it's jet 2, easyJet or similar then there is an ombudsman to arbitrate. If internet only type good luck, on the beach is particularly bad at this sort of thing

Yes it was one of those!

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Queenofheart · 19/11/2024 21:24

BridasShieldWall · 19/11/2024 19:24

That is wrong, there is a contract with the holiday company contracting to provide a holiday of a certain standard that is safe and hygienic. The OP is entitled to that, she tried to mitigate her loss (in the substandard and unsafe accommodation) by asking to move hotels and the holiday company refused to move her. Her options to move may be limited, there may not be other hotels near by or she may not have transport to get there. That she didn’t move doesn’t mean she then accepts the substandard holiday but it may mean that she did get some benefit so that any damages / refund is reduced. If she had left the hotel it does not mean that she would get a refund, the holiday company could argue that she just didn’t like that hotel and then she would have paid the original holiday plus any additional costs because she moved.

I asked the holiday company to move us and was told that was not an option, so there was no way I was going to pay to move somewhere else knowing they didn’t support that , because I knew I wouldn’t get my money back

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Queenofheart · 19/11/2024 21:25

Flossflower · 19/11/2024 18:34

About 20 years ago, I went on holiday and didn’t get the accommodation we had ordered. I spent a whole day sorting this out with the rep and hotel. I wrote a a long letter when I got home and put in a claim for one seventh of our holiday costs. The holiday company only gave me a small amount compensation. I refused this and went to the small claims court. In the next few days I had a cheque for the full amount I claimed.

That’s good to know thank you

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Queenofheart · 19/11/2024 21:27

SweetBobby · 19/11/2024 18:04

OP you're ignoring what people are saying. You are not entitled to a refund because you stayed there.

Would you go to a restaurant, complain your meal was crap but then eat the whole thing and still want your money back?

I’m not saying I’m entitled to a refund. I’m saying I’m going to try and get some kind of refund.

I wouldn’t go to a restaurant and complain about the meal and eat it no but this is a completely different scenario

We stayed at the hotel But spent as much time as possible out of it

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Queenofheart · 19/11/2024 21:29

NC10125 · 19/11/2024 17:56

In your position I would write to the CEO (if you google their details will be online) with:

  • a copy of your original letter
  • a copy of all of the photos
  • a copy of the email where they offer you compensation
  • exactly what compensation you are hoping to receive
  • say in your letter that if you are still unhappy that you will be considering next steps, but that you wanted to give them the opportunity to rectify things before doing anything which might potentially cause reputation damage

Good luck!

This is really good advice, I’ll do that, thank you

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PrincessofWells · 19/11/2024 21:35

Send a letter before action giving them 14 days, once the time expires issue on money claim online. I would try to recover £1500 or the full cost.

Doggymummar · 19/11/2024 21:37

Sounds like it was the accommodation that's was an issue. This is usually a very small part of the cost. I used to work for a tour operator in the complains dept. Let's imagine this was Turkey, Dalaman for example. Flights average $300pp and these were provided. Transfers to say Marmaris $25pp AI say $30 pppn how much does that leave from the holiday cost? That's the accommodation element, and is what would be offered in compensation.

Toddywoddywoo · 19/11/2024 21:37

I would also query formally with the corporate headquarters why they couldn't move you - after school holidays there must have been loads of free beds.

That is worth following up as it's the heart of your issue - you asked to move, they didn't move you, you couldn't afford alternative accommodation so you were effectively screwed over by the holiday company.

Queenofheart · 19/11/2024 21:38

Someone asked for pictures, here’s a few, i can only upload 5, I have nearly 50, that’s how bad it was

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kawabungah · 19/11/2024 21:40

Doggymummar · 19/11/2024 21:37

Sounds like it was the accommodation that's was an issue. This is usually a very small part of the cost. I used to work for a tour operator in the complains dept. Let's imagine this was Turkey, Dalaman for example. Flights average $300pp and these were provided. Transfers to say Marmaris $25pp AI say $30 pppn how much does that leave from the holiday cost? That's the accommodation element, and is what would be offered in compensation.

This 100% the person answering your complaint will be looking at a screen with a breakdown of each element and will compensate depending on the element and then within that what wasn’t provided. They then claim that back from the provider (in your case the hotel) and can only do so for valid reasons. There’s 0 chance of a full refund, £170 will be a percentage of the hotel cost as a component of the holiday (as previous poster said this is usually the cheapest part of a package) and the £100 voucher is goodwill from jet2
if you’re unhappy with the resolution provided you can go to ABTA but they will look at it in the same way, for example you can’t get compensated for being upset or not liking the food as all those things are subjective. You only get compensated for things not as advertised or not provided properly

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