Due to hand back rental we have departed on Friday, too sick to empty house, how to pay rent and how much?

[KievLoverTwo]

We gave notice around 8th Oct to leave on 15th Nov; on 12th Oct got keys to new house (hundreds of miles away), moved out straight away. Slowly been emptying the old house (5-10 hour round trips + packing, loading, unloading), due back one final time next week but the OH has now been very sick for four days and I just can't risk it. He was sick in September with similar symptoms and it lasted almost a month. Slightly different symptoms this time and other complaints also in the mix but he's basically been ill on and off since the day we picked up keys to the new place and done half a dozen journeys in amongst really struggling with copious amounts of pain. Oh - and I have M.E., so I've been fully loading, unloading and setting up home and shifting it all around on my own because he's been incapacitated. With M.E. Ha. Much fun. Anyway, the new symptoms aren't just pain. They're the sort that could cause him to black out at the wheel. And I don't drive. And I'm not physically capable of doing that journey on public transport. And there are no nearby friends to pack stuff up and send a man in a van. It's only one more van load - it's pretty frustrating.

I'm almost certainly going to end up taking this former landlord to court at some point in the future so I need whatever we do regarding rent to absolutely on the straight and narrow. Rent needs to be paid in advance, it's usually paid on the 15th. So, if we can't clear out by Friday, is the legally correct thing to do to pay an entire month's rent, and advise the keys will be handed back 15th Dec?

I assume if I do that and we clear out in a fortnight, that's just our tough luck - we're not entitled to any of it back?

The house is not habitable for various reasons but that doesn't really matter, that's a whole other story. What matters most is that I keep my nose absolutely clean, even if I can't live in her house and I've been paying double rent and utilities for almost 5 weeks and have to keep on doing it. No doubt a court would say 'but rent was due for a month, not a fortnight, so you broke the terms of the lease' - right?

Of course, I'd prefer to pay her a week or a fortnight at a time, but I'd rather pay too much and suck it up and know she doesn't have a single thing on me legally than do the wrong thing (pay a week/fortnight at a time) and risk a court case failing.

Google is NOT my friend on this. Please advise if you have direct experience of this or know what the legal precedents are, thank you.

do you have any children op?

Anyway, the new symptoms aren't just pain. They're the sort that could cause him to black out at the wheel.

presumably he’s having extensive tests and under medical care?

hang on

you are reducing your entire household furniture by 80% to move in to the new place?

to say there will be a heck of a lot more to this shit show would be an understatement i suspect

I think some of these posts are a little unfair. Far from being disorganised the OP took a month to move out- plenty of time to go back and forth. It’s bad luck that her partner was struck down with what seems like some mad debilitating disease the final week they’d planned to finish up.

I had to move once with a man and van and CFS and it was truly hideous- it was hundreds of pounds vs thousands

Into a new rented place. Make it make sense.

No, we are paying someone to take almost every single piece of it away. Most of which is under 4 years old.

Shit show doesn’t even begin to cover it. But that’s a whole other thread!

No time to register with a doctor yet.

Thank god, no (imagine doing all this and coping with kids!) But the other half is like having a five year old when he’s sick, if that helps? :)

no it’s a purchase

you said he first began showing symptoms back in september

has he actually blacked out at the wheel?

Honesty - I don’t welcome your judgement. I arranged a stressful move around my own disability and then my partner got sick. So really if it makes your day brighter by coming here to make me feel bad about us both being incapacitated, feel free to find someone else to pick on because you aren’t going to succeed in making me feel bad because of my illness.

in the time you spend on mumsnet
you could have registered him and booked an appointment

He was sick in September with similar symptoms and it lasted almost a month.

and in that month… no time to book a doc app

That was a different bout that went away around 7th October. Idk what this one is but it is similar but different. In hindsite it must have started creeping up the week before last and Thursday is when it started hitting him big time.

We thought he had completely recovered from the Sept-Oct illness.

No, he hasn’t blacked out, but I have had to make concerted efforts to keep him awake after 2 hours of driving - then the trip takes double the time.

you said very similar symptoms back in september that lasted a month
you did squat all to address for a month

he is reliant on someone keeping him awake at the wheel of a car and yet STILL you / he havent been bothered to register at gp and book surgery.

You could have called i. one of those ten hour car journeys

telling

Reading it again @KievLoverTwo doesn’t actually say whether the new house is a purchase or another rental?

Do you not think he needs to do that?

OP it sounds very stressful. It's hard to make watertight plans for this sort of this when there's a budget and disabilities to navigate. Well done for coping so far.

Hope you manage to find a man (or woman!) with a van to help you with the heavy lifting and driving - that sounds like the best solution.

Good luck with the final push!

You have to pay a removal firm to clear out all of your belongings then pay a cleaning firm to do an end of tenancy clean.

Check out - check all the lightbulbs are working - and hand back the keys on time.

all over mumsnet talking about her purchase

Indeed
but if he’s as ill as op says, surely on one of these ten hour car trips that he’s drivings… she could have buzzed the surgery?

But it wouldn’t work. We are already paying a house clearance specialist to remove 80% of our furniture that we cannot fit in the new house because all we could find to move to is massively smaller and if I sent a removals firm in to remove the 20% of belongings we have left that we actually want to bring (one van load), the two of them would get confused and our stuff that we need may end up in landfill. There is not a good enough phone signal at the house for me to talk either party through it. We can’t get it all taken to a local storage place because the weather between the two locations which includes driving over mountains is getting horrific and it would be a logistical and time nightmare getting rid of it from that point on. Well, we could - but I don’t want to. I just want to be done with the house.

?? The two wouldn’t get confused if the 80% of furniture is cleared first then you’re left with 20% of your furniture for the removal company which wouldn’t cost anything like 3-4K. (My parents’ furniture removal cost that much for a 3000 sq fr house with antique furniture and paintings that had to be crated).

Of if you need move the 20% first - you label all the belongings that you want the removals company to take and then the house clearance people come in and take the remainder.

I’ve done it both ways - both were straightforward but require organisation skills.

In one case, some furniture was to move, some was for storage, and some was left for clearance. 3 sets of labels in different colours. Removals companies have their own storage facilities. I did it all with an AI illness and 3 kids, so it’s highly doable.

and yet STILL you / he havent been bothered to register at gp and book surgery.

This, it is simple