I got fired on Wednesday and their reasons really isn’t valid

[GotFiredAndStruggling]

I don’t want to out myself so will try and put as little as I can on here but really need to speak to someone who knows the law from both HR point of view and legal one.

I will try Acas on Monday as citizens advice wasn’t really helpful and hopefully a no win no fee solicitor. I was so sick on Thursday and Friday and really couldn’t speak as my voice was literally gone. It still is but much better.

is there a way I can speak to someone on here for advice without putting my situation on this platform. I feel like I could have a case for discrimination and bullying.

Thanks

https://www.lawworks.org.uk/legal-advice-individuals/find-legal-advice-clinic-near-you

You also need to be prepared op, they will lawyer up; no matter what you say they will respond with yeah but you’re shit at your job or similar.

companies don’t generally fire after 3 weeks, as the cost of recruitment is so high, so something very serious has occurred here. Very serious indeed foe them to take this action. As you don’t wish to give further detail it is hard to advise. Other than you will need very very solid and repeated evidence of what you’re claiming.

3 weeks?? You’d need some rock solid hard evidence and even then it will be battle.

just focus on your next job and forget about this

Re getting your glasses, can you just call or email a colleague on Monday am and get to drop them down to reception or to meet you near the office?

ACAS and check your home insurance for legal protection cover, as it usually cover employment disputes too.

It doesn’t really work like that. She will get 30 mins free legal advice. It’s highly unlikely they’d cover this case. The op not only has to prove they fired for discriminatory reasons, she also has to prove what they are saying about her performance or ability to do the job,or whatever they are saying is the reason they had to fire. I very much doubt there is any case here she’d get covered;

Advice on the merits of the case is exactly what she needs though. If the insurer would turn it down then for not being well-evidenced then the OP should probably move on herself. If they would take it on then that's a win.

You'd need to make a claim for unfair dismissal due to discrimination relating to a protected characteristic - no length of service requirement for such a claim.

Did they give you right to appeal?

So sorry you went through this OP. Of course speak to ACAS, but you probably will have to accept you will get nowhere with this. You've been there for 3 weeks and that's no time at all. I would advise you to concentrate on moving on quickly - no one is going to miss 3 weeks on your CV. Just say you took a holiday/did home improvements, whatever (but they won't even ask).

My experience with ''no win no fee'' solicitor is they charge you double fees if they win but may not tell you in advance. This was a large London firm and I did not proceed as I lost confidence in them.

Sometimes jobs don't work out. I'd hope I'd have the prescience to cut and run before it went so far titzup that I was summarily dismissed.

You have the right to appeal. (HR professional)

I agree speaking to ACAS would be a good start - I think they may say leave it though.

What I'm going to say next relates to an incredibly intelligent and driven individual who is very good at what he does but can be difficult to work with.

He took out an employment tribunal after he was sacked after 3 days! It's still going through the system but has had a couple of preliminary hearings and he seems to have a case - the other side tried to have it thrown out but the judge refused as he had a arguable case. HOWEVER he's been able to prove that it related directly to a protected characteristic and not the reasons he was given for dismissal. He suspected it so made a subject access request - the results were revealing to say the least!! Also he has legal qualifications (though does not work in the sector) so is able to represent himself

His case is pretty rare though and he may not win but if you don't want to let it go a subject access request would be a good plan. In all honesty though unless you are exceptionally tenacious and dare I say have skin like a rhino you may prefer just to look for another job

Not worth the hassle and emotional drain due to just three weeks there. Compartmentalise the experience and put it behind you. Move on.

Also if they win and your fees are 5000, but you win 500, you still need to pay them 5000. Because you won and the fees are due,

Does your union provide a legal helpline?

I'm also ethnic and have been fired several times from jobs, and I can tell you from experience you'll get absolutely nowhere with it unless you've worked there 2 years, which you haven't. Discrimination is pretty impossible to prove, unless you have a recording or email saying it's for that reason somehow, it will be them saying they fired you for another reason.

For your own peace of mind it's better to just spend your time finding another job.

Can't you go back to your old job?

OP is a protected characteristic involved ?

I have “won” 2 discrimination claims via ACAS, and got around 10K each time. I could have fought for more but I just wanted to move on.

The second case I had only been there 4 months and funnily enough was planning to resign the day they fired me (I’d actually discussed it with a colleague at lunchtime that day ) they done me a favour by firing me as I’d have left with nothing otherwise.

So being there for less than 2 years is fine as long as it’s a protected characteristic or I think if you’ve raised a health and safety issue.

You are furious, understandably. But do you really want to put yourself through this stress? Now that you are no longer there, you might find it hard to produce the evidence. Despite colleagues acknowledging what happened was wrong, they might be reluctant to put their heads above the parapet for a tribunal as they still work there and may fear for their own jobs.

If you only started working in the organisation 3 weeks ago. it isn't long enough to get a solicitor involved. What do you stand to gain?

I really would not recommend that course of action even if their dismissal was in some way discriminatory. You don't even need to include it on your CV or bother getting a reference from them, so I would let it go and move forward positively.

Certain types of dismissal are automatically unfair:

https://www.acas.org.uk/dismissals/unfair-dismissal

Those sort cases are not an easy gig when it comes to winning but some folks succeed.

However given the time in post here then unless there is something exceptional about the job or why it went wrong I think OP would be best letting it go.

Just forget about all that and save yourself time, phone money, ACAS people time, your mental well being. If you were bullied - RUN FROM THAT PLACE .

Be careful to understand what no-win-no-fees mean.

You were there just three weeks. There is a strong possibility that any compensation owed would not cover the costs involved.

The only winner would be the No Win No Fee solicitor, @GotFiredAndStruggling please listen to sense and don't take this further, all you'll do is give yourself a world of stress.

despite the many grandiose claims on here of winning sizeable awards at Tribunal, the Tribinal is not there for that purpose. It is there to put the Claimant back in the position they were before the breach of law. Plus the award doesnt cover legal costs incurred by the claimants in the majority of cases. And it doesn't take account of the mental strain that it puts you under.

Do remember that any company going to Tribunal does not have to pay for anything out of their own personal household finances. The Claimant (people like you) has to shoulder the financial risk all on their own.