Is Ravi Jayaram Shady? (Lucy Letby)

[ConcernedCitizen0502]

It seems the police made an error with key card swipe timings that was discovered between the first and second Letby trial's.

At the first Letby trial and in the media Dr Ravi Jayaram made a lot of melodramatic statements about having a "precise memory" of looking at his watch "emblazoned" in his mind and "etched in my memories and nightmares forever".

Yet when the keycard error was discovered at the second trial, the altered timings put him against the witness statements of two independent nurses (plus Lucy Letby) and also a note he made to the transport team.

Do you think Dr Ravi Jayaram is trustworthy? He was reprimanded for bullying Lucy Letby before the police became involved in the case. He also guided the direction of the police investigation.

Breakdown of the timings with reference to the court reports here;

I think he thinks that she's guilty.

I think confirmation bias is obviously at play. but I also think that a lot of these people have chosen to let their confirmation bias take hold and have willfully ignored other things.
I don't believe for a second that they all think that those babies were all 'well babies' because they weren't, but I think that they're so convinced that she's guilty that they think it's fine to say that if it helps a conviction.

Apparently there's a TV drama being made about this and the writer is working with Dr Jayaram 🙄

No in a nutshell. I hope he really believes she’s guilty and his campaign is sincere rather than a cynical attempt to save his career. However his testimony is too inconsistent and subject to too much alteration over time for him to be a trustworthy witness.

In a case that hinged entirely on his personal testimony - the fact that it changed from one trial to the next is highly problematic.

I actually came onto Legal Matters to post the David Allen Green piece on the trial.

I was just about to post that on this thread too 😅

He believes she is guilty and he will say whatever it takes to get her convicted.
He couldn't possibly be wrong as an esteemed consultant could he?

I’ve done it - I didn’t want to thrash OP’s thread which is on a specific aspect of the case.

"he will say whatever it takes to get her convicted".

That's something that I can't relate to. If there's any doubt at all in his mind (and there should be because there is significant evidence contradicting him) then I don't understand why he didn't say "I don't remember" as opposed to these events are "emblazoned" in his mind and "etched in my memories and nightmares forever".

Yes. He’s utterly shameless.

Either he saw a smoking gun and failed to do anything about it or- more likely - he didn’t see anything untoward.

I think this has been an appalling miscarriage of justice, but I’m sure I’ll be told it’s just because she’s blonde and white.

Dr Jayaram is an amazing paediatrician, as is his colleague Dr Brearey who I believe also gave evidence.

I can’t imagine he is shady. He came across as very kind, caring and professional on the many occasions I had to see him with my child

So did LL.

I think there is merit to the argument that she is innocent or at least that the conviction is unstable. I just can’t believe that he is dodgy. He has been wonderful to my family.

What are the alternative theories?
Natural deaths?
Rate of deaths not too high?
These are all deaths due to a culture of incompetence?
Someone else entirely but they don't know who?

Culture of incompetence. Chaotic hospital, understaffed and struggling in all sorts of areas.

None of which would stop him from being a man looking to make a name for himself. I was a nurse for 26 years, I met and worked with all sorts of Consultants, some were desperate to be "a big cheese", they wanted everyone around the Country to know their name. Yeah sure they were good at their job, and pleasant to patients.

If my police witness statement is anything to go by - things can get hazy as time goes on.
I wish I had written it all down when the incident happened.
A month from the incident when the police finally took my statement I left things out as I couldn't quite remember them.
You need to walk with a body camera on.

Why would he lie? He has no need to.

He remembers some things and doesn't others and is perhaps miss remembering.

Leaving aside what people have to say - does the other evidence stack up?

When he was concerned for the safety of babies he kept pushing for investigation, even when he was threatened with career ending vexatious GMC referral. Having seen interviews he has done since, he is clearly broken by the thought that if only he had pushed even harder, there might have been fewer babies murdered. No, I don't think he's shady. I think he showed a high level of commitment to his vulnerable patients. Without him, she'd probably still be killing babies.

Why would he lie?

To point the finger of blame away from turbulence on the unit. I am not saying they did happen, but it is a motivation if you like.

Not really. No.

That was to the question ‘does the other evidence stack up?’

The nurses and medical staff had already noticed more babies seemed to die on Lucy’s watch. It’s people ignoring people like Ravi in favour of the white woman that allowed her to murder so many children.

That’s right.

The Private Eye coverage is very clear on this. Sick babies, very sick, in sub optimal conditions brought about by idealogical cuts to the NHS, were always going to suffer.

This doesn't mean LL or any of the staff were saints or sinners, though her occupational health record show she was a troubled person. It means if you put human beings in impossible situations, tragic things happen.

Anyone could have written that though. It’s not exactly ‘evidence’.