Son needs an operation following camp, is there negligence

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My son went on an organised camp with a well known youth organisation. He fell playing a game and has dislocated his shoulder. It has since dislocated again and the consultant says he now needs an operation to strengthen the joint and hopefully stop it dislocating in the future.

Mil has suggested we look into a personal injury claim but I'm not sure there is any negligence on the part of the camp, it was an accident. She's raised the point that it could cause problems in different areas of his life etc

Has anyone any experience of something similar or know if it would be classed as negligence? Surely accidents are just accidents sometimes?

It's nobody's fault. There isn't always blame to be apportioned.

He needs surgery don't underestimate his injuries surgery is serious. It is life changing.

Your very trusting and I wish the best for you and your children.

Oh, believe me, my children will be just fine. But thanks for your totally unwarranted concern.

Exactly.

How will it change his life, specifically?

Get a second opinion from another Consultant. If he is young then jumping into surgery isn't often the best course of action. Also, "strengthen the joint"? There is not any shoulder surgery I know of that can do this, perhaps he meant a remplissage? Either way, I would get a second opinion.

I remember listening to a police officer and he said he would never allow his children go to a sleep over or camps. Why do you think that is? The amount of effort you put into looking after your child or else you get a knock door. Then you leave your child with people who are only getting paid to oversee your child will not have the same passion.

Are you serious he needs surgery.

I remember listening to a police officer and he said he would never allow his children go to a sleep over or camps. Why do you think that is?
I've no idea why that is. Enlighten us?

That's not what life changing means 🤦‍♀️

Your original post is nothing like your last few OP, what a sudden twist. What happened to....

' Surely accidents are just accidents sometimes? '

I'm sorry your son got hurt really I am (dislocated shoulders are painful - I know!) but claiming is a dick move and you know it. I hope you get nothing and I hope you feel at least a small amount of shame filling those forms in.

Google it it's free and full of information.

An accident as in something just happened is different to an accident happening because equipment failed, lack of supervision, kids mucking around when shouldn't be etc.

Basically if it was a genuine accident I would not be claiming anything just on principle it was an accident

Oh dear you really don't understand do you.

He's having a shoulder stabilisation. I don't know if that is the same thing.

I don't understand what you're on about, no. I do know what life changing actually means.

How old is your child?
Were they needing supervision during this fame?
What game were they playing?
Why would a game for a child cause a shoulder dislocation?
Were you present?

If not present, are you sure this is how the dislocation even happened? It takes a lot of impact to cause a shoulder dislocation but why was that allowed to happen?

You need to investigate and also seek legal advice. The solicitor or citizens advice bureau will be able to tell you what they think. Personally, I would take this further for my kid and ignore comments above saying it's just an accident. The real question is, was it avoidable with more care?

How old is your son ? They will have insurance to deal with injuries . If you think there where safeguards that could have avoided this then you probably have a claim

Mine broke a bone each at organised paid for sports clubs and another break at school playing sport. I’m a solicitor and didn’t even occur to me to sue. What odd circles you must move in if this is the norm.

I have 4 children and not one of them has broken a bone at any club I have paid for or school playground. Maybe you should do a risk assessment of where you send them to.

Definitely a PA claim. Look into long term permanent disability if he's having to have surgery. This should be a benefit on the policy.

Well observed.

Then followed by a complete change of tone and information conveniently forgotten in the OP at 18:42

From the information you have given us, no-one knows if there was any negligence.

But this is a ridiculous argument:

Even if it was volunteer run if there was a negligence case not perusing could lead to other cases and other children being hurt. Not claiming because it's people/ volunteers etc is wrong if justified

Organisations (voluntary or business) will investigate after any accident what happened, and could things be done differently in the future. You don't need to sue them for that to happen. The fact you are talking about it means you are only after money, as per you have been more honest about on the later pages.

I went ice skating on a school trip. I am a teacher and I fell on the ice when a child got his skates caught up in. One when he fell.
It was an accident. I was off for months. No one's fault.
Sometimes things happen.

If she gets money from the claim then she can use the money to get private treatment if he needs it. The NHS is crumbling it's worth looking into.