Is this FRAUD? Funeral Director!

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My late father's sister stated the Funeral Director had requested my signature on three Legal Documents,(Giving her the right) in order for her sort out the my fathers funeral.

I had to go to her house to sign the documents. Once I had signed the documents she made a call to the Funeral Director (which was on loud speaker) I had to confirm to him in this call I had signed the documents. He said thank you, and the call ended.

I had later found out the Legal Documents were not requested by the Funeral Director. The documents were not even a "Legal" type of document. The Documents were typed out and printed by my fathers sister.

ADVICE PLEASE

1. My father's sister/Funeral Director Pretending they were Legal Documents.

1. My father's sister/Funeral Director pretending he had requested them.

1. My father's sister/Funeral Director both requesting and getting my signature.

1. My father's sister wanted my signature and got it by lying to me and having the Funeral Director lie to me.

Is this legal ?
What can I do?
TIA X

Forgot to say

My father's sister and the Funeral Director have been friends since there school years. (40+ years)

Getting your signature on what? What were the documents you signed?

I suspect that if you confront the FD, they will sort this rather than have you take it further.

What were the documents you signed?

You should have read what your were signing. You could have agreed to pay for the whole funeral. The person on the phone could have been anyone.

Thank you for responding

The Documents were to
"The Medical Referee"
The document was stating I gave my fathers sister the right to organise my fathers funeral. I pointed out there were several spelling mistakes on the documents and she informed me not to worry as they will be amended later.

You can retract ?

Are you in the UK? and if so, which country of the UK? Might help inform replies as different countries may have different rules concerning next of kin etc

Why does this matter? You read them and agreed to your aunt arranging the funeral. So what is the issue?

Insane you signed them when clearly not official documents...

Thank you for responding

I called and asked the Funeral Director regarding the documents he requested I signed.

He wouldn't discuss anything with me and said he does not want to get involved. (They have been friends for 40 + years)

How do you know the person she called was even the funeral director?

This all seems very silly.
You gave permission (whether by a made up document or not) so what's the problem?

But again, how is it fraud when

• you agreed to your aunt arranging your fathers funeral
• you signed a document saying you had agreed to your aunt arranging your fathers funeral.

There is no fraud here. Could have signed a paper napkin written in crayon. So long as the document you signed says what you agreed to, and only that, it is not fraud.

Did you read the documents before you signed them?

If you didn’t - that’s you’re fault.

If you did - then you agreed to her arranging the funeral.

If you’re saying they have you documents that you felt obliged to sign because you thought they were official, but actually they weren’t - ignorance of the law is no excuse. This is on you. You voluntarily did what you did.

Sorry for your loss

My guess is you’re next of kin. Your aunt wanted to organise the funeral. The funeral director needed you to give your aunt permission to organise the funeral. You signed some documents to give her that permission. If you hadn’t wanted her to organise the funeral, you wouldn’t have signed the documents.

No fraud, no “Legal Documents”, just a business attempting (unsuccessfully, it seems) to protect itself from future complaints.

This. Your aunt created a document for you to sign and give permission for her to organise a funeral for you father as you are NOK.

I'm concerned

1. My father's sister/Funeral Director lied about the Legal Documents.
2. My father's sister stated she had the authority to downgrade my late father’s house insurance. And the next day the house was broken into, so the house was not insured. Did she amend the "Legal Document" with my signature addressed to the House Insurance company also to the bank. As she stated she had authority.

Well you said THREE documents but you've only quoted one. What were the other 2 for? This makes absolutely no sense. If you didn't read them you could have signed anything at all but the onus would be on you for signing them without reading them. Did you sign to say you would pay for the funeral but your Aunt could organise the funeral? You don't even know if it was the funeral Director on the other end of the phone call!! Did you sign away your rights to be Executor of your Father's will?

Why would any kind of medical referee be needed to organise a funeral?

I can't get my head round this thread at all, OP.
What were the three documents and why does it matter, anyway?

Yes, I was wondering that, too.

The question is do you want your aunt to arrange the funeral? If she doesn’t do it are you willing and able to do it?

Also is there money to pay for the funeral? This might be because your father had funds to pay, or had paid for a funeral plan, or has enough money in his estate to pay.

Ifthere is no money is your aunt offering to pay?

Your Aunt only has authority if your Father's will names her as an Executor OR if you were named but have signed that you don't want to be an Executor. Yes, I would be very concerned if I were you - and the House Insurance thing sounds very fishy. I suggest you speak to a lawyer sooner rather than later

I can’t see the fraud to be honest. Your aunt wanted to organise the funeral and prepared the documents that gave her permission to do so. You willingly signed those documents.

What’s the fraud?

Re the insurance... she stated that to who? You? The insurance company?