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Is this FRAUD? Funeral Director!

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MARCNME74 · 12/12/2022 00:07

My late father's sister stated the Funeral Director had requested my signature on three Legal Documents,(Giving her the right) in order for her sort out the my fathers funeral.

I had to go to her house to sign the documents. Once I had signed the documents she made a call to the Funeral Director (which was on loud speaker) I had to confirm to him in this call I had signed the documents. He said thank you, and the call ended.

I had later found out the Legal Documents were not requested by the Funeral Director. The documents were not even a "Legal" type of document. The Documents were typed out and printed by my fathers sister.

ADVICE PLEASE

  1. My father's sister/Funeral Director Pretending they were Legal Documents.
  1. My father's sister/Funeral Director pretending he had requested them.
  1. My father's sister/Funeral Director both requesting and getting my signature.
  1. My father's sister wanted my signature and got it by lying to me and having the Funeral Director lie to me.

Is this legal ?
What can I do?
TIA X

OP posts:
Zodiacsigns · 12/12/2022 18:05

I really can't understand why you are so upset, do you feel that she has misappropriated funds or what?

I think OP is upset because from the confused posts ... which OP has obviously tried hard to make clear, but they still aren't clear ... I'm guessing OP either has learning disabilities of some kind, or is very naïve, unworldly and also a poor communicator. Combine that with what seems like a bullying relative determined to get her own way. I can see how OP has perhaps been left feeling they have been stitched up somehow but lacks the knowledge, or perhaps intelligence, to work out how. Anybody in that situation would feel upset.

Zodiacsigns · 12/12/2022 18:28

There does not appear to have been any coercion. If you wanted to organise the funeral, you could have refused to sign.

The coercion is the aunt roping in her friend the funeral director, an "official person" is no doubt how the OP sees it, and both of them telling OP the documents "had to" be signed. I get the impression OP didn't realise there was a choice to not sign, was made to believe there was no choice and was pressured into it. OP also wasn't given a copy of what was signed, which has no doubt added to the worry. I can see how OP would be upset about this.

OP you haven't necessarily signed anything bad or even anything you wouldn't have agreed with. The problem is you don't know what you've signed, or whether it was changed after you signed it, because you don't have a copy of it. You can ask your aunt, or the organisations she sent the documents to, for a copy. But if your aunt isn't telling you the whole story I don't know how you can find out what you've signed.

You can obtain a copy of the will which, amongst other things, will tell you who is the executor. You can find out what powers and authority an executor has. That might help you to know if/how much your aunt has been lying to you.

prh47bridge · 12/12/2022 19:15

The OP in her first post describes her aunt telling her that the funeral director had requested her signature and says she had to go to her aunt's house to sign the documents. She didn't speak to the funeral director until after she had signed. She does not say that either of them told her the documents had to be signed.

Her story now seems to have shifted a little with her stating that her aunt and the funeral director told her she had to sign, which is not what she says in her OP. However, OP says she was happy for her aunt to organise the funeral, so getting her to sign documents to enable that is not coercion.

Onnabugeisha · 12/12/2022 19:47

My father's sister stated she had the authority to downgrade my late father’s house insurance. And the next day the house was broken into, so the house was not insured. Did she amend the "Legal Document" with my signature addressed to the House Insurance company also to the bank. As she stated she had authority.

Hmm it’s more likely the insurance policy was not renewed or the monthly payment not made for the home. After a death, these payments are due to the estate of the deceased. But often due to probate or if intestate, no one can access the deceased’s accounts to make said payments. So usually a relative has to decide to front their own money and then get paid back from the estate by the executor. I’m going through that now with my own fathers house. I’ve been paying the utility bills and insurance while my brother is executor and he is still working on probate.

Who is taking care of your fathers estate?

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