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Unauthorised photography within my home and sharing of the photographs

538 replies

Changerofthename1 · 09/11/2022 19:08

I found out that a contractor has taken photographs of the inside of my home that I did not authorise, one of them has got my child in the corner I’m fucking furious about. Obviously it’s gone from one employees phone to another and then it’s been forwarded onto who is thinks is me but actually I’m using an email address that isn’t the one that he would have on my contract if that makes sense so I think he’s on thin ice with that.

This can’t be legal surely ?

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kirinm · 10/11/2022 09:17

@mumsnet why are you allowing this thread to stay up? It is full of posters being abusive towards the OP.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of whatever happened here, the OP has a right not be have mental health slurs directed at her and repeatedly asked if she's on drugs.

The absolute worst of social media.

CandyLeBonBon · 10/11/2022 09:48

With my strange attitude that I won’t give you all the juicy facts so that you can pick those apart, blame me and call me names, yeah alright then sorry about that.

No, with your strange, inflammatory and hostile attitude where many people have tried to offer the correct advice and you've laid into them for having the audacity to ask for clarification. Law is not cut and paste. Details matter.

In your circumstances, as best as can be ascertained by the poor level of detail, the contractors have not done anything wrong.

HTH

CandyLeBonBon · 10/11/2022 09:51

I'm guessing asbestos / artex in a place they need to encroach into for the purpose of the build. OP disputes they'll need to be in there because she isn't an architect / builder and doesn't understand to what extent old stuff will need ripping out.

Yes when I needed work doing and asbestos was found, they would t work with us in the house, wanted a clean tunnel etc. absolute nightmare with young kids.

Changerofthename1 · 10/11/2022 10:34

CandyLeBonBon · 10/11/2022 09:48

With my strange attitude that I won’t give you all the juicy facts so that you can pick those apart, blame me and call me names, yeah alright then sorry about that.

No, with your strange, inflammatory and hostile attitude where many people have tried to offer the correct advice and you've laid into them for having the audacity to ask for clarification. Law is not cut and paste. Details matter.

In your circumstances, as best as can be ascertained by the poor level of detail, the contractors have not done anything wrong.

HTH

And this is what you’re all clearly taking exception to. I do not want your advice surrounding the contract it’s simply not required and wasn’t asked for.

but what you’d like to do is give it anyway 🤣🤣
and you’re all getting frustrated that you’re not being allowed.

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CandyLeBonBon · 10/11/2022 10:55

Well I'm a professional photographer and have to know about the legal processes surrounding photography on private property etc. so it was coming from a place of knowledge. But ok. Confused

Igotjelly · 10/11/2022 10:59

Changerofthename1 · 10/11/2022 10:34

And this is what you’re all clearly taking exception to. I do not want your advice surrounding the contract it’s simply not required and wasn’t asked for.

but what you’d like to do is give it anyway 🤣🤣
and you’re all getting frustrated that you’re not being allowed.

What on earth are you on about, this is just bizarre.

You literally asked for advice on the legalities in your OP.

CandyLeBonBon · 10/11/2022 11:00

I'll ask again @Changerofthename1 is your child's face visible in the photo?

SeasonFinale · 10/11/2022 11:02

Changerofthename1 · 09/11/2022 23:14

I could actually issue a statutory demand tomorrow they have my money with no reason to be holding onto it a refund should’ve been in my account by this morning.

Absolutely no point issuing a statutory demand where there is a dispute though and indeed £5k is below the limit.

Changerofthename1 · 10/11/2022 11:04

CandyLeBonBon · 10/11/2022 11:00

I'll ask again @Changerofthename1 is your child's face visible in the photo?

Upon closer inspection of the photograph that they sent it to me it’s actually worse than I thought because not only is the toddler in the photo if you looked at the photograph in the background on the wall my two underage daughters are in their swimsuits.

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Changerofthename1 · 10/11/2022 11:05
  • wetsuits, not that thats any better
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CandyLeBonBon · 10/11/2022 11:08

Is your child's face visible?

CandyLeBonBon · 10/11/2022 11:08

Changerofthename1 · 10/11/2022 11:05

  • wetsuits, not that thats any better

They still haven't done anything wrong.

Changerofthename1 · 10/11/2022 11:10

CandyLeBonBon · 10/11/2022 11:08

Is your child's face visible?

The girls faces are yes

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Somuchgoo · 10/11/2022 11:12

Changerofthename1 · 10/11/2022 11:04

Upon closer inspection of the photograph that they sent it to me it’s actually worse than I thought because not only is the toddler in the photo if you looked at the photograph in the background on the wall my two underage daughters are in their swimsuits.

When I thought you'd couldn't get any more ridiculous, somehow you manage 😂

CatsAreCrackers · 10/11/2022 11:12

Are you now accusing the contractors of being paedophiles?! You've only just zoomed in to the details on the photo so they couldn't have been immediately obvious otherwise you would have also been outraged about that in the beginning Do you really think they took the photo just because they spotted a) your toddler and b) your daughters (are they twins?) in wetsuits in a picture on the wall?! Wetsuits are about as revealing as leggings and a T-shirt. Is there nothing else in the photo that they could have been taking a photo of..? I think there probably was.

Those poor contractors. You are clutching at the wrong straw going down this route.

CandyLeBonBon · 10/11/2022 11:19

Right. So you've spent all day and night arguing that your son is in the picture. When pressed and finally admitted that no, his face is not visible, you've doubled down and stated that your daughters images have also been captured and that's in fact worse. Because they're in wetsuits.

As long as they are not being used publicly/commercially and are purely kept as records, then no, you do not have a leg to stand on.

If they use them to name and shame you on social media, you'd have a point. But they haven't.

So no. They haven't broken the law but crack on and waste your money taking them to court!

BadNomad · 10/11/2022 11:30

Do you make your children wear burqas outside in case someone sees them?? You are being ridiculous now. You invited people into your house. They took photos while in your house. That is not a crime. They were not there taking photos of your children. They did not do anything nefarious with those photos. It's understandable that you are angry about the deposit, but you are focusing on something that is not an issue.

feedthepeony · 10/11/2022 11:32

Do you have many friends OP?

SlovenlyUnwedMother · 10/11/2022 11:33

Changerofthename1 · 10/11/2022 11:04

Upon closer inspection of the photograph that they sent it to me it’s actually worse than I thought because not only is the toddler in the photo if you looked at the photograph in the background on the wall my two underage daughters are in their swimsuits.

You've jumped the shark here OP.

TheWurst · 10/11/2022 11:35

🦈

Barbie222 · 10/11/2022 11:43

I do not want your advice surrounding the contract it’s simply not required and wasn’t asked for. but what you’d like to do is give it anyway 🤣🤣and you’re all getting frustrated that you’re not being allowed.

You do need to give the info and hear the advice on here about the contract, OP, you just haven't understood why it's relevant (or you can't see how you can climb down, over 10 pages in?)

Posters aren't 'frustrated' that we're 'not being allowed' to give advice. You are frustrated because you aren't getting the validation you wanted from the thread and are having to make accommodations to your reasoning which aren't comfortable.

PassThePringles · 10/11/2022 11:45

This is a new low for you. If your girls are dressed so 'revealing' in a photo, why would you have them framed and on show and keep them out knowing workmen will be coming around? Seriously, I almost felt sorry for the way people were speaking to you but....
Just. Fucking. Stop.

Chesterdrawsseriously · 10/11/2022 11:47

Op, this isn’t getting you anywhere. It Really is not. It’d very obvious the point of the photo was not to photograph your kids. It was to show the room . It’s fine for them to take this and use it as evidence.

honestly I think you need to stop now with all this. Pretending it was for a rear extension, thst they were photographing your kids , thst you’ve data protection issues, pretending you’re going to court, that no work was being done in the living room and hall, that they are saying they couldn’t commence s rear extension due to the state of the living room . It’s all too much now.

You didn’t clear the room, they were unable to dp the work , it’s been rescheduled. Accept personal responsibility, this thread can’t be doing you any good and nothing you do or say is going to change the facts of the situation you’re now in

CandyLeBonBon · 10/11/2022 11:52

There's a reason the contract is important. It may have a clause about photography and how or when it will be used. They'll also have a privacy policy which should detail the way your data is held and processed. Your contract is an important part of the puzzle. The fact that you've been unwilling, up to now, to admit your child's face wasn't visible and you don't want to discuss the contract, whilst simultaneously 'suddenly' realising there's an additional problem in the photo suggests as PP have stated, that you're looking for a way to wriggle out of the work for sone reason.

I mean, if you've changed your mind, you changed your mind. But there will be a cancellation clause as well. Or there should be if they're any good. Perhaps you should revisit their t&cs ?

Xenia · 10/11/2022 11:55

I have done 2 contracts recently covering this - one was for building work within the home of a very rich person and photography issues were covered and another was standard terms for a landscape gardener who wants rights to put photos of his work on his blog (he ensures no people are on them but even so some people do not agree those terms because their garden is private). Our private road does not allow google street view cameras down it for example.