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Child Maintenance in climate of toxic masculinity and patriarchy...

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K8tyW · 29/01/2019 12:46

Sharing my open letter here in the hope it will spark further conversation and support for what I hope to achieve... the letter has been acknowledged by her PA.

Dear Baroness Hale,

I write regarding the Child Maintenance Service and the recognised legal loopholes that enable HNW individuals to financially neglect their children.

I left my ex when our twins were just 5 months and have been supported by Womens Aid and the Police through a challenging climate of emotional abuse ever since; financial control continues and is perpetuated and sanctioned by the CMS. The impact on our children, me, my husband and younger children is excruciating and unacceptable.

Despite his wealth (multiple millions) the Child Maintenance Service assess maintenance obligations based on a declared salary of zero and additional unearned income £32,696. My ex currently pays less then £100 a week for our children and has made it clear I should only expect that to decrease.

I am battling systems that are failing my children and I wonder if there is anything you could do?

Here is a press release I wrote on the sorry situation with the support of leading London Law Firm Vardags;

Mandatory reconsiderations are the gateway to Child Maintenance reviews - an agency working to government KPIs to reject four out of five appeals, which is the final insult to mothers battling a system that legally entitles wealthy absent parents to absolve themselves of financial contributions towards their children.

When the Child Support Agency became the Child Maintenance Agency it ceased to look at assets or wealth outside of salary, therefore, individuals paid via dividends or from international income streams are outside of its jurisdiction. For frustrated mothers the fact that such transparent 'income modification' is legally sanctioned is as distressing as the pressure left on them to cope financially and there is a recognised need for change.

Leading London law firm Vardags note that;

‘The CMS is a blunt instrument, at best difficult to navigate, at worst, impenetrable. Five different pieces of dense legislation and regulations set out the pathway to child maintenance, administrated by a computerised system, which does not adapt to nuanced personal circumstances.

In this global age where “super earners” are increasingly ingenious in the ways in which they manage their finances and hold their assets, the CMS offers a woefully unsophisticated system that continues to fail the most vulnerable, leaving a significant band of children penalised due to the disparity of wealth between their parents. These are not parents who are impoverished, quite the opposite. These are parents who are able to arrange their wealth to fall outside of the unyielding CMS criteria, circumventing their responsibilities to their children. Some non-resident parents are manipulating the system by setting up business structures and income streams to defeat the stringent rules, because they are armed with the best legal advice money can buy and use the system’s inherent rigidity to their advantage. I believe that such action is morally reprehensible and needs to be met with a strong and easily accessible system that seeks to protect the child rather than the current series of loopholes available to the financially dominant party.

The decision to end the CMS’s ability to look behind the UK tax returns and to consider the global lifestyle of the paying parent has shut down the only avenue of attack which can be easily demonstrated and views a parent’s financial circumstances more broadly. Unless the paying parent earns an income in excess of £156,000, which leads to a maximum assessment by the CMS, the courts have no jurisdiction to intervene and take account of the wider picture of wealth. This is an area of law crying out for change; the system is being manipulated and, in many cases, is failing to protect those children it was set up to help.’

vardags.com/

Essentially mothers battling the system for child support from wealthy fathers who fund their lifestyles outside of salary are being told that their battle is with the moral fibre of their ex and not their exes finances.

Mothers questing for justice are at the mercy of UK law and things have gone from bad to worse since the Dickson V Rennie case led to Judges not applying Schedule 1 of the Children's Act until a tribunal hearing via the CMA has been reached and won; seemingly impossible to do when the CMA don't look at wealth outside of salary. In any case evidencing wealth to get to tribunal stage (either on or off salary) requires documents and financial data that would breach the wealthy parent's privacy.

The CMA and Schedule 1 of the Children's Act were intended to protect children yet wealth disparity and neglectful intent has left both wide open to corruption meaning these laws and institutions now serve the wealthy to allow legal abandonment of children.

Justice Holman, the Judge in the Dickson V Rennie case, called a mother’s plight to get proportionate financial support for her children via the law a ‘folly’.

I understand the law is changed either by case precedent or legislation; having asked my MP (Michelle Donelan) to put the recognised need for change to the House of Lords she was told that their would be no review as the current set up was deemed acceptable. Clearly the financial disparity between my ex and I and indeed all women in my position means we are not in a position to trail blaze change in a court room.

I just refuse to accept that this is the end - particularly in the current climate where increasingly toxic masculinity and patriarchy is being called out; surely when these two combine at the head of our legal system to disadvantage mothers and children now is the time for this situation to be put under the spotlight of morality and decency and changed?

I would welcome the opportunity to discuss this in more detail.

With kind regards,

[redacted]

This post was edited by MNHQ

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ArnoldBee · 29/01/2019 13:02

Did you mean to put your name at the bottom?

K8tyW · 29/01/2019 13:14

I've made it a public post on FB and am sharing it here with a view to gathering support... but I am new to MumsNet and it won't let me edit the post now!

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Collaborate · 29/01/2019 14:59

You do realise that you've just written to a judge, and that it's MPs who set the law?

I'm afraid I haven't read much of your letter (my heart sank when I saw how long it was) but do you also realise that with very high earners it's really simple to get the maximum assessment, opening the door to an application to court for a top-up order?

K8tyW · 29/01/2019 15:18

All your points are answered in my long letter....

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Collaborate · 29/01/2019 15:47

A Law Lord cannot change statute.

K8tyW · 29/01/2019 16:10

No, but she might support me and add weight to my campaign, which has the support of a leading London Law firm. I’ve detailed the two ways the law can change and articulated why neither of those routes will work in this scenario.

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K8tyW · 29/01/2019 16:16

"She's moved the law on for the benefit of children quite significantly, particularly in the area of human rights, about which she appears to feel deeply," said child law expert Allan Levy QC.

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K8tyW · 29/01/2019 16:23

Brenda Hale on life

"The most troubling aspect of my perception is that some women are being pursued and oppressed by controlling or vengeful men with the full support of the system"

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Collaborate · 29/01/2019 17:18

I'm afraid you've completely lost me by making this a gender issue.

bastardkitty · 29/01/2019 17:34

I absolutely support you OP. It's just disgusting. I will find and share on FB. Are we supposed to pretend that the vast majority of maintenance fraudsters are not menz?

K8tyW · 29/01/2019 17:38

I didn’t make it a gender issue; that comment was one of the most senior women in law making a factual observation about how the current legal system favours patriarchy.

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K8tyW · 29/01/2019 17:39

Thank you. X

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EverardDigby · 29/01/2019 17:40

Of course the majority are men. And then there are fathers like DDs that I don't bother taking to child maintenance even though he's a reasonably high earner and has never paid enough just because he makes our lives so miserable if I do anything.

Good luck OP.

bastardkitty · 29/01/2019 17:41

It's crazy-making. I've had a correspondence with my MP but it's a waste of time. It's far too easy to get way with paying little or nothing.

Racecardriver · 29/01/2019 17:44

Judges cannot act beyond statute. It’s uncobsitutional. You need to write to your MP or petition.

Collaborate · 29/01/2019 17:52

You gave it the title. You linked it to Brenda Hale's comments, when as far as I can tell it is not possible to say what at the time she was talking about. You therefore made it about gender.

K8tyW · 29/01/2019 18:00

@racecardriver.... as explained in the letter I have gone to my MP who took it to the house who said it wouldn’t be reviewed. I explain why the two ways legislation could be changed are not viable options here. I started a petition but when Theresa May came in they cancelled them all... the doors in all the usual channels are locked here so I am trying other avenues. Leading legal figures agree with what I am trying to change so my points have been validated...

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K8tyW · 29/01/2019 18:10

@collaborate I have a wonderful husband and I am not saying all men are bad; I am saying there are problems with the system and I am, unfortunately, very well versed in the legislative failings of the CMS. As my letter points out high net worth individuals can easily circumvent the system by claiming zero uK taxable income, moving their wealth off shore and legally pay zero for their children. Had you taken as much time to read my post as you have troll it you would be more informed on my position and the recognised need for change (as supported my leading London law firms). Re gender, I wish this wasn’t a problem yet most high net worth individuals are men and the majority of primary carers are women. I have never come across the flip of this scenario where a mother leverages legal loopholes to conceal her wealth to deliberately spite an ex and damage her children. Case history and press coverage supports my point that the perpetrators of this behaviour are wealthy men.

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Collaborate · 29/01/2019 18:25

I have to say this is the first time I've been accused of being a troll.

You specifically said I didn’t make it a gender issue; that comment was one of the most senior women in law making a factual observation about how the current legal system favours patriarchy. What you did was at 16:23 you linked to a 2004 Guardian quote of Brenda Hale, the context of which is impossible to know, yet you link it to your thread. That is a huge leap.

What are, arguably, some valid points that you wish to make are being lost by you making it a feminist issue. It isn't. I have male clients tell me that they are discriminated against as men when they fail to achieve shared care of their children. It isn't.

K8tyW · 29/01/2019 19:03

The point you who seem to be intent on making is that gender is not a factor here.

I recognise that the law is not written with gender bias, however what I am attempting to highlight is that the current law surrounding child maintenance is flawed and it is almost exclusively women and children who are suffering because of this.

The fact that it is predominantly (perhaps exclusively) men (in case history, and press coverage) that have chosen to leverage the legal loopholes that allow them to abandon their children financially, whilst still gaining full access rights, regardless of their morals or behaviour towards the mother of their children - indicates a gender related trend.

Given that it is predominantly men who earn more than women and that women are still predominantly the primary carers of children in divorce/separation situations - it is clear that the circumstances and outcome of the law has significantly different impact depending on ones gender.

As already mentioned, I’m not aware of any case in the past where the highest earner was a woman who chose to leverage legal loop holes to purposefully financially disadvantage her children just to spite their Male ex partner.

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K8tyW · 29/01/2019 19:06

@bastardkitty indeed it is! Maddening that the CMS and lawyers acknowledge the need for change but all conventional routes to catalysing that change won’t work in this instance.... I refuse to give up on this and am channeling my inner Suffragette!

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K8tyW · 29/01/2019 19:14

@EverardDigby I’m sorry you are battling your version of this frustrating predicament... sending you a coffee and a high five and thanking you for your support xxx

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Racecardriver · 29/01/2019 22:24

But there is nothing that leading legal figures can do about it. It would be an outrage. You need to take this to parliament. Find a way to do that otherwise there will be no change. If you want to target individuals look at MPs who are sympathetic that may be interested in doing a private members bill

MissedTheBoatAgain · 30/01/2019 02:27

I am not Legal, but comment as follows:

CMS deal with earnings up to £3,000 per week. If NRP earns more they can apply to the Courts for additional Child Maintenance. This has been the case for some time as far as I am aware. How the Courts would calculate the additional maintenance I don't know.

The 2012 CMS scheme seems to be less favourable than the previous system as Variations based on assets and lifestyle being inconsistent with declared earnings are no longer possible. However, I would have though that assets would be split during the Divorce proceedings either by mutual agreement or Court Order and that would be the end of it? My consent order makes it clear that neither myself nor ex partner can make claims against the other for capital or assets in the future.

If one partner becomes more asset wealthy after the Divorce it would seem unfair that the other partner could get a second bite at the cherry?

Refer to Vince Dale who set up Ecotricity and had an estimated net worth of £100 Million. His ex wife came after him 20 years after they had Divorced! Judges dismissed her claim. A former colleague was fortunate enough to win almost £3 Million on the lottery. His ex wife came after him about 3 years after the Divorce. Judge dismissed her claim.

Changes in the NRP earnings will be taken into account during the annual assessment made by CMS or sooner if there is evidence that earning have changed by more than 25% since the previous assessment.

CMS do not make assessments on Foreign Earnings unless the NRP is employed by a UK registered company or is in the UK sufficient time to be considered UK Resident for Tax Purposes.

REMO is one of the mechanisms to enforce Child Maintenance if the NRP lives outside the UK. If NRP lives in a Non REMO Country then the RP could apply to the Courts for maintenance. I am sure legal have said this before on other posts?

The current legislation may have its flaws, but until changed BOTH GENDERS are bound by it.

K8tyW · 30/01/2019 06:33

@missedtheboatagain if you were married a settlement is more straightforward but cohabitation is on the rise and the law needs to adapt and cater for children born out of wedlock; marriage is considered more of a financial commitment than having children. Again, another recognised area where legal change is much needed.

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