Contact order / prohibited steps

[FinallyFree123456789]

We have had a contact order since 2012
Today I was also granted an emergency Prohibited steps order. No-one seems to know if they continue to follow the contact order or if they follow the prohibited steps order - which the short of it says not to remove dd from my care, school or anyone else's care I leave her in - save for contact orders.

Ex thinks he can still have dd.
School don't know.
Court enquiries line have said follow the PSO as that is the most recent paperwork and don't allow dd to go.
Solicitors tell me different things.

What do I do as he's due to have contact on Friday - and the school aren't proactive in finding out their legal position.

Thank you both.
I have agreed that the nan can come and see dd - with me present - at a soft play area; didn't want her in my home. Would prefer somewhere public.

PSO was put up due to DV between dd's dad and partner which she witnessed and police were called.

I called my mum  she said she didn't see the problem in what I've agreed with - but if dad shows up / they bring dad with them - then to leave as that's not what I've agreed too.

That all sounds sensible and definitely leave if he shows up and thereafter stop contact with grandparents if they can't agree to keep her safe.

Good well thought through plan op.

Thanks everyone.
Feels nice to know I'm not crazy!

Will update after we've been to soft play :-)

Hey everyone who's been following!

So everything was fine - he turned up half hour after nan at the soft-play. She didn't even play with dd.
I was sitting in the cafe watching them.
He left after 45 minutes of being with dd.
When dd came over to me she told me that he had said he hates me & I was being silly and that he missed her as he wasn't allowed to collect her from school and that it was my fault.
She said she didn't want to see him anymore.

Why did I even bother?

Why didn’t you leave with DD when he arrived? Why would you leave her in a vulnerable position like that?

You should have left with DD as soon as he turned him, You allowed contact after getting the court to grant a PSO, can you not see how that will look to the court?

Shows you cannot trust the family either as the nan clearly set the whole thing up.

That's not great OP

It's a shame that they broke the agreement with you by telling/allowing EX to be there.

Why did you stay when EX turned up?

Because it states he can see her if he has my agreement & i am there.

I stayed as I could see her - I had offered supervised contact that he chose not to organise with me; he went behind my back and planned it with dd's nan.
So now - no more contact. He broke the conditions of contact - I have tried to be amicable and he went against what I had offered.

I have always looked like the unreasonable one, he portrays me as unreasonable and someone who wants to "control him" I'm really trying not to give him this angle now - so letting him see her with me present - he didn't do any of the organising and ambushed me.

There's been DV from him to me previously; had 3 injunctions, 2 prohibited steps and 3 court dates regarding him breaching these; so didn't want to try and leave with dd as he would have started to push / grab at me and I don't want dd to see that.

Conditions of pso are that he can see her with me present / with my agreement.
He didn't have my agreement - as he didn't organise with me.

Now they / he has done this - no more contact until after the court hearing with what they decide.
I was trying to be reasonable, keep contact going & keep dd safe.
He's also broke an undertaking to not speak badly about me to dd.

He's done so well with manipulating the court, the judge & cafcass who oversaw our previous hearings (all of which were with the same judge) that I'm trying everything I can to prove I'm not trying to be obstructive of contact - I'm trying to keep dd safe.

Ok that makes more sense.

Showed his true colours yet again didn't he?

Sorry - feel like I missed out that part of the info.

He always shows time and time again but the court believes his lies and the "I just want to be a good dad"

I tried. They went against me. No more contact until the next hearing.

I'm now writing a time line of events in ways that he's broke the court orders. How court / cafcass haven't done anything about any of this is beyond me.

So did he not know you were there?

He knew I was there.
He looked at me and smirked, then bad mouthed me to our dd.

Obviously what he has done is terrible parenting. I think you need to be prepared for the court criticising you for putting your DD in a position where he had the opportunity to do that when you were given a PSO to keep her safe. And you can’t even prove that he did anything - if he denies it, you’re in a he said, she said situation.

Big mistake by GPs. They breached the PSO.
Did they know exactly what it said or have a copy? in particular did they know about the power of arrest?
You need to capitalise on them flouting the order and lying to you.

Yes they had a copy.

The order was sent to their house as that's his last known address I have - and they told me they opened it.

The PSO says he can see her if I am present & agreed. I was present but didn't agree.
As a Previous poster said - who was a family lawyer - it may go against me if I didn't offer supervised safe contact.

So now as he breached the offer of contact - there is to be no contact at all until the court hearing.
Dd is at the age where she can tell the court exactly what happened so there is no she said he said - cafcass are definitely going to be involved again.

Big mistake by GPs. They breached the PSO

They do not appear to have done so. They did not remove OP's DD from her care. Telling their son where his DD was does not breach the order on the information we've been given. He may have breached the order by turning up but that is another matter.

Might he not argue that since you left your DD in his care for 45 minutes you were in agreement?

OP said the order said-
Dd cannot be removed from care of FinallyFree123456789, the care of anyone instructed by FinallyFree123456789 or from school or nursery except for orders of the court.
Expires April 2019
She authorised that GP should have care of DD for a visit.
They then handed her over to DF
So I think they are in breach
It will be said why didn't you intervene. You presumably would say you were present so didn't think there was any immediate risk and didn't want to make a scene in front of DD
DF has also made a big mistake using the contact to say bad things about you.
No more contact. You agreed to it, they all abused your trust and colluded to break the order.