What is the likely to happen DS 17 caught on speed camera only just passed his test.

[Fretfulparent]

Utterly horrified after opening the post today. My DS who only passed his driving test 3 weeks ago has been caught by a speed camera doing 41 in a 30 zone. The letter came to me as the car is registered in my name. He is very upset and remorseful but that not to going to change the consequences . We have to send the form back stating he is the driver.
What is likely to happen?
Can he go on a speed awareness course if you is a newly qualified driver or will it be a fine and points?
I am so upset and angry.

I did a speed awareness course very recently for doing 42 in a 30. First ever offence in 23yrs of driving

The course is actually very good and was a cheaper option than points and fine in the police force area where I live.

He is not allowed to drive my car again until we have heard back. We will send off the form identifying him as the driver and wait and see.
Blackfingers - thank you for the link. The police force involved didn't have much info so I have submitted a question to them.
Apollo and Daphne - yes he has been very tearful and keeps saying sorry.

shitsgettingreal

I agree, I get quite nervous when driving in unfamiliar areas that I might have missed a speed change sign. It's very easy when the signs are changing quickly, you're concentrating on the road and trying to navigate an unfamiliar route.

You can't really rely on common sense either since very similar roads can seem to have very different speed limits. I wish there could be some consistency.

There was a notorious road near us which was lowered to 30 mph by the parish council despite police objections - it's a long straight road almost devoid of housing on either side . Eventually common sense prevailed and it was raised again to 40.

If it were one of my DS I would seriously consider every option before sending off the form.

I think he'll get the SAC. DH was caught a few months back doing 42 in a 30 for all of a few seconds. He did the course 3 weeks ago. No points.

If it were one of my DS I would seriously consider every option before sending off the form.

You realise that he was caught on camera; and that the penalties for lying are severe for both of you?

Fretful, when your son does drive again, he would, I think, really benefit from a satnav. Not necessarily for the route-planning but you can load on the speed cameras and it will bleep when you're approaching them. I have mine on most of the time, especially on unfamiliar roads.

He didn't have a bump, didn't hurt anybody, he just exceeded the limit. Some bits of carriageway have a nonsense 30mph limit and other bits which should be slower for safety are not, they're 50mph. Speed limits are arbitrary so we just have to work with them. When your son has a bit more experience, he'll be fine.

There is no way we will lie on the form.

Lyingwitch - yes a satnav with warnings on - good idea.

Re not driving the car I would reconsider as he has only just passed his test and actually needs to consolidate his learning. Could you let him keep driving but only with you or your DH as a passenger?

tarara I’m pretty certain that supplying false information carries a bigger penalty than confirming the original offence would, if that’s what you are suggesting by “every option”.
I certainly wouldn’t be lying for my child if they’d been caught speeding.
OP fingers crossed he gets the course. Not every insurance company asks for them to be declared. He isn’t necessarily an idiot, it is all too easily done. I am much more aware of my speed since mine!

If it were one of my DS I would seriously consider every option before sending off the form.

Including perjury?

Mystery fairy - yes that what DH is saying that he can still drive but not alone.
I appreciate all your comments.
I have calmed down a bit now.
Will update when we hear back.

Fine (£100 I think now?) And 3 points is most likely. Another conviction for anything resulting in points within 2 years and it'll be bye bye license.

Not knowing the area is a poor excuse. Road signs and markings are the same wherever you go and they are usually pretty obvious going down to 30mph (signs, usually big yellow ones, road markings etc.). Google earth where he was caught and see how obvious it was

It’ll be 3pts £100 fixed penalty at the worst. Don’t sweat it, shit happens. I had one in my first 2 years for 81 in a 60, you just have to be more careful until the 2 years is up.

Tarara, you do realise that perjury can carry a custodial sentence?

Better to let children learn from these life events than lie to protect them.

He would actually benefit hugely from a speed awareness course so I hope he will be offered it. I’ve been driving for 45 years & I was clocked doing 37-38 (I think) on an unfamiliar dual carriageway where it sneakily switches from 40 to 30 either side of a big roundabout.

I learned a lot on the course. They spend a good chunk of time training you on how to recognise what limits are on unfamiliar roads - I doubt if there’s time to teach much of that in driving lessons, when the learner is concentrating on the actual driving.

If he does get points that’s a shame but at least it will make him more careful in future.

Good luck

Not knowing the area is a poor excuse. Road signs and markings are the same wherever you go and they are usually pretty obvious

That’s not true!

He clearly should go back to course and learn again. If he was caught on camera I can imagine what's in other areas..he clearly doesn't belong to intelligent once. Speeding kids are the most killing factor on the road..not that they hurt themselves but kill others with the way they drive..

@LapdanceShoeshine the highway code is the same wherever you are in the country

@AnotherOriginalUsername

the highway code is the same wherever you are in the country

Really. I had no idea. Thanks so much.

Road signs and markings are not, however (which was what I actually said).

@LapdanceShoeshine you mean the signs that are part of the highway code...

I know of someone who was caught speeding within 4week of passing the test, the letter from DVLA said they'd lose their license under the new rules but he phoned and pleaded with them to keep it as he had a job & family to support. They let him keep his licence with paying £100 fine and going on speed awareness course

there are several places around here where it goes from 40 to 30 without a lot of obvious signs, and where it used to be 40, and where other roads of a similar nature are 40, etc., so I can quite believe someone would accidentally think it was 40 and end up with that sort of ticket.

However if he knew that it was 30 and was speeding without caring, that's different.

Of course there's no real way to tell the two apart.

Does he have a black box for the insurance? If he does then the insurance company may cancel his cover. If not then hopefully he'll learn his lesson and be a better driver for this experience.

I recommend a dash cam for new drivers, very useful to look back at footage where they were unsure whether they did the right thing.