Title deeds not matching the title register

[Ginosaji]

Is it possible for these two different documents not to match?

After the death of my mil, fil said that he had changed his will so that his portion of the house (there is no mortgage) will pass to dh & sil equally, so that they will then get 50% of proceeds from the house sale as their names are both already on the title deeds

Now 5 years down the line fil is getting remarried, and said that he wanted to change his will again so that his portion of the house go entirely to his new wife (fair enough) & said that he wanted both dh & sil to sign legal documents to say that they wont force the sale of the house upon his death, they had no intention of doing that anyway, but agreed if it gave him peace of mind

Last week though, fil rang to say that he realises that the only hope me and dh have of getting on the property ladder is with the money from the sale of this house upon the death of both him and his future wife, which could be many many years away, so he had come up with a solution

The solution was that future wife would sell her property (again no mortgage) and give both dh & sil a cut, equating to what they would get from the sale of fil's property based on current market value, but at the same time asked that in order for this to happen, he wanted dh & sil to sign paperwork to remove their names from the title deeds of his house, he said that this could all be put in motion after the wedding (which is happing in a few months)

Dh & sil agreed to this plan as it seemed like a plan that would suit everyone for various reasons, then last night fil rang again, and said that though he wanted to still go ahead with this plan, he wanted to make a small adjustment to it, future smil has a cat, which still lives at her property, apparently the cat is settled at the house & she doesn't want to upset it by moving it (cat is about 10 years old)

So fil's new plan is for dh & sil to remove their names from the deeds of his house soon and then when the cat eventually passes away, its an indoor cat if that's relevant, that property will then be sold as per his last plan and dh & sil given a portion on money from the sale

All this is now making no sense to me & dh, as it all seems rather strange, so this morning as i was really curious by now i went onto land registry and bought a copy of the title register for his property as none of this situation is making much sense

But according to the title register, the owners of fil's property are two people we have never even heard of! I guess its possible that these were the people fil bought the property from many years ago, but if the title register says they are the owners, how can the deeds have fil, dh & sil names on?

Sorry for the essay, its just that this is all so confusing & wanted to try my best not to drip feed

Your FIL sounds horrid - so sorry for your DH and SIL having to go through this. Hope they get independent legal advice soon as poss.

Oh yes they will definitely be doing things all officially now, they have learnt that they cant rely on or trust their dad

At some point soon dh get get a call from fil arranging for him to come over to sign his portion of the paperwork, dh will go over, remove the last few belongings of his dm's that were promised to him & sil (and which fil & his fiancée haven't chucked out) , once they are safe in the car he is going to tell fil that him and sil wont be signing

The shit will hit the fan & there will be a massive fall out, dh says while he will be raging inside he's going to do his best not to lose his temper, which will annoy fil more

Seems like your dad is about to be scammed out of his home.
Do not take your names off the deeds. Your mil presumably left her share in the house directly for a very good reason.
When the fiance sells her house and has cash in hand sell your share to her in exchange for the cash.

X post. Good work

Sending strength to your poor DH and his sister .

Your DH is lucky to have you .

Unbelievable behaviour by FIL and fiancee.

Thanks @peridito and thanks everyone for all the advice, dh is going there tomorrow morning to get the last few of his mums possessions that he was promised, he may say something at the time, but that depends on wether or not he has time in the end for various reasons, after all this isnt going to be a quick chat he's having

I have told him tho that not to worry about being late for picking me up from work, it would be for a good reason and a friend has offered me a lift anyway

Very sensible way to do it - take last things of his mother's before they hold them to ransom or throw them out and then say he will not sign. In my view he is following the wishes of his mother and probably also protecting his father against the new partner's possible future claims and also protecting his own family and you.

The result may be that the father then leaves everything else to his new partner however although that might be subject to legal challenge if your husband is totally cut off and of course the father might die after the new woman so just be aware that may be the result.

Oh dh & sil are both aware that will probably happen, but like you say they want to protect their mothers wishes, they also don't want her memory stomped all over more than it has been

For about a year or so after she died, but before he got together with this woman he set up his spare room as a shrine to her (mil) with loads of pictures and her ashes in a lovely casket, with the plan being that in time he would put her casket in a special memorial at the crematorium, when he got together with this woman the room was then used as a junk room for all their crap while she redecorated the place, starting before she had even moved in or got engaged to fil

Then fil rang dh and asked him to take the ashes off his hands, when dh enquired about the crematorium memorial the casket was originally going to be placed in, fil said "im not bothered about doing that anymore, i just need them gone"

I hope today goes ok and your dh manages to save some of his dms belongings

Hope it goes ok

Thank you annoyingly dh had to turn back as halfway there the route he had to take was blocked off due to major accident, but he is going to give it a couple of days and try again

Argh annoying after he had get himself ready dor it 😢

Best of luck to him and SIL and for you for being so supportive to them.

Thanks everyone, dh is going to ring after the bank holiday to rearrange going round, we want to enjoy our bank holiday weekend

Don't know you or sil have legal insurance with your house insurance but if you do it might be worth talking to them for free legal advice... Even if you also pay a solicitor it's anotherset of legal eyes to help.

Hope you get to enjoy the rest of your bank holiday and good luck to your dh when he gies next time!