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How to deal with fall out over bodge job

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wowfudge · 17/08/2015 22:28

This is going to be long - sorry. Just had our bathroom re-done. Plumber/fitter had done work for three friends. Agreed price verbally and paid a chunk of money for materials. He said when he gave a price that would be the price we would pay. Hit problem on day two when we didn't want to have a false ceiling fitted and stuck to our guns - had already said we didn't want it and painted ceiling prior to work commencing. Seemed that was to avoid him having to cut tiles to fit ceiling curves. Anyway all sorted and some plastering had to be done instead.

We asked him to take one wall back to brick because he started plaster boarding to square it up and it took a ridiculous amount off an already small room. There had been no consultation on this btw and he knew space between bath and shower was already tight.

Anyway, very last job was fitting skirting boards. Piece by the door jutted out by about 1cm. He took a chunk off the door instead of asking what we would like done/trimming the skirting board down properly from the back, which presumably needs a circular saw which I suspect he doesn't have. Waited over a week for it to be fixed except he hasn't fixed it - it's now a different bodge although the door has been repaired. I said how disappointed I was when everything else is looking fantastic and that what he'd done wasn't what we discussed.

Was told he'd done all he was going do on this job. He said he'd bent to my every whim (!) and he wasn't doing anymore. He'd send me his bill and he hung up on me.

He's now texted me a list of additional charges - including for items I thought were included in his quote such as tiling window recesses when fully tiling the room. There were things he was definitely reluctant to do - anything that involved cutting tiles it seemed - but we worked things out and it was amiable. Or so I thought. No mention of any extra charges at all.

He has texted I won't get my keys back until I've paid him. To say I feel threatened is an understatement. I've changed the alarm code, but he knows I'm on my own during the week which is worrying. I feel this is intimidation.

DP has totally backed everything I've thought as the job progressed and we have got what we wanted apart from this bit of bloody skirting. We were going to give him one last chance to put the skirting right or say we were going to deduct the cost of fixing it properly from the balance due to him. But he texted extra charges before I had the opportunity. Now I feel I am dealing with a bully who didn't like being asked to do what the customer wanted instead of what made life easy for him.

I can't get hold of DP, but I guess we can deduct the cost of changing locks from the bill if he holds onto the key. Think I'd want to change them anyway now.

What the hell can we do?

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tribpot · 23/08/2015 20:45

The fact he needs the money may be good in that it gives you a lever, but may be bad, depending on how desperate he is, i.e. whether he has creditors chasing him.

I think I would have had DP respond (if you really had to do this by text, I would have written a letter regardless of how much he hassles by text, the casual nature of this transaction is what has got you into hot water in the first place) to say all correspondence should be addressed to him. I would stick to the line that you will pay the original amount (only after keys have been returned) and if this is not acceptable the first step is for him to submit a written invoice (NB I'm guessing the reason he doesn't want to do this is because he isn't registered for tax).

If he turns up, I wouldn't answer the door to be honest.

wowfudge · 23/08/2015 21:01

Thank you tribpot that's a really useful way of following up if needed. I texted because I want to conclude things, especially as I am now on my own at home until later this week.

We have already decided that payment will be by cheque and sent registered delivery - with a text to say it's being sent like that. Then he needs to act and accept it; I'm not going to do a bank transfer as requested.

There is no way I am going to answer the door to him should he turn up.

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wowfudge · 23/08/2015 21:08

I mean Special Delivery - arrives next day and has to be signed for.

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tribpot · 23/08/2015 21:15

Interesting, I wonder if the account is not in his name, and that's why a cheque is no good. Have you compared account numbers with the one he gave to your friends? Again, I think you stick to the line that a cheque avoids a payment dispute in the absence of a written invoice (that would have the payment details on).

springalong · 23/08/2015 21:16

Interesting. You have had some very good advice on this thread on how to deal with this matter to best present your case and close it out and you have argued over it. I had no sympathy for the plumber in your OP. I do now. You seem to be quite set in your ways.

My contribution was going to be report to VAT office. They are very helpful.

wowfudge · 23/08/2015 22:08

springalong could you please explain where I have argued? I don't understand how you conclude I am set in my ways either.

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Mintyy · 23/08/2015 22:14

What does he charge per hour and how many hours work did he do at your property?

Work out the cost of the materials from a wholesalers and multiply by 1.2 or 1.3.

You should then easily be able to work out what is a reasonable price.

It isn't rocket science.

wowfudge · 23/08/2015 22:25

The price quoted was for the job and he very clearly said that when he quoted a price that would be the price I paid. I agreed because I had indicated what our budget was and felt the price seemed reasonable compared with what friends and family have paid for similar jobs.

The items he has now detailed as extras were dealt with as choices along the way with no mention of incurring additional costs or were items I believed to be included, so fully tiling the room would have included certain items which he has now said are extras and a couple of other items he is saying cost extra which should surely have been obvious to him - the waste for the new shower tray is in a different place from the old one so, yes, the plumbing needed to be moved. He sourced the shower tray.

If there was an issue over costs, wouldn't it have been better to mention it at the time?

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Mintyy · 23/08/2015 22:56

What is the difference between what he quoted and what he is now asking you to pay, and what is the extra amount for?

wowfudge · 23/08/2015 23:04

It's an extra 33% on the quoted price. I would rather not list the additional items as it risks outing me.

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wowfudge · 23/08/2015 23:21

Sorry, that was potentially misleading: it's an extra 33% on the outstanding balance due at the end of the job. Not 33% increase on the overall price. I paid an amount for materials at the start of the job and I bought a number of items myself - tiles, bath and taps.

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