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Childs name published

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Jenscotland1974 · 07/07/2015 10:47

My daughters full name has been printed on numerous garments, also with her school details. I was not asked for permission. Can I do anything?

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WinterOfOurDiscountTents15 · 07/07/2015 19:09

None of that is classified information either.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 07/07/2015 19:14

It might not be classified information, but if there is a vulnerable child on that list - one whose whereabouts are being concealed because they are a looked-after child whose parents aren't allowed to know where they are, or because the parents are separated, and an abusive parent can't know where the child is, then putting their name on a sweatshirt with the name of their school on it could, on rare occasions, put that child in danger.

And parents aren't going to know for sure that none of the children whose names they behave put on the hoodie isn't vulnerable for some reason.

WinterOfOurDiscountTents15 · 07/07/2015 19:28

no, nobody can ever rule out every possible outcome of every single decision. But Op asked if there are laws against it and if she can do anything about it, and the answer is no and no.

SoupDragon · 07/07/2015 19:37

So isn't this a non issue since the OP has said that the hoodies have since been reordered so no harm done?

They haven't been re ordered. The original 13 are still there and another odd for the rest of the year (with permission sought) is being put together. The fact that it was a small private order of only 13 was only added by the OP later

AgentProvocateur · 07/07/2015 19:49

Contrary to popular belief, there are no laws against photographing children. If I was ill-mannered, I could take a photo of your child in a public place and do what I wanted with it. I could put it on facebook, print it on a t-shirt, make posters...

It's manners to ask first, but not the law v

OddBoots · 07/07/2015 19:53

How did they get a full list of all the names? The school must have given them that in the first place.

CandOdad · 07/07/2015 20:10

Still rather combative though to search for a law rather then enter into discussion.

TracyBarlow · 07/07/2015 21:56

"Anyone could take a picture of a child in public, but they couldn't publish it with the child's name without permission."

flessan that's not true at all. There isn't law against doing that.

Jenscotland1974 · 07/07/2015 22:42

The new order of hoodies, being ordered with full parental consent are seperate to the original order by this mother. My daughters name will not be on these.
Cannot believe the naivety of some people here...this information could get into the wrong hands....It tells a person the age, name and location of their child...on something which they have no control as to who will see.
In Scotland the use or reproduction of a child's photograph requires consent. Schools do not publish this info.
I have taught for almost 20 years and know that the protection of children's identity and info is paramount to thier safety.
My personal circumstances mean I have kept my daughters profile/identity, call it what you will, guarded for our own safety.

I am extremely annoyed that a thoughtless action by someone who had absolutely no authority decided to compromise her information. Thanks to those who understood, I appreciate your help x

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Kardamyli · 11/07/2015 11:14

Jen, there is no law in Scotland which requires consent before a photo of a child can be used or reproduced. If your child, or indeed anyone else, is in a public place I can take a photo of them and use or reproduce it as I wish. If the law was otherwise how on earth would (eg) a newspaper be able to publish photos of general street views taken in busy Buchanan street in glasgow or princes street in edinburgh. Do you think the photographer asks everyone in the picture for their permission?

Really annoys me when people who know absolutely nothing about the law spout off with nonsense like you have. Stick to what you know!

SavoyCabbage · 11/07/2015 11:17

Our school caretaker was fixing something in my classroom when he noticed a photo of himself walking down a street in London in a maths textbook.

Not relevant but this just reminded me of that.

Kardamyli · 11/07/2015 11:30

Good illustration of my point Savoy.

Jenscotland1974 · 11/07/2015 11:48

Why are comments being made regarding photography? My query was nothing to do with photography.

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Jenscotland1974 · 11/07/2015 11:56

Kardamyli you are posting utter rubbish and are clearly bad mannered also.
FYI...a photographer who takes the pic owns the rights to that image...you cannot reproduce it without THIER permission. Have non idea why you are talking about naming people in a photograph...are you not able to read the question i asked? Your point is utterly unrelated. Jog on...

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Piratespoo · 11/07/2015 12:05

Op, YOU mentioned a photograph in your last post, which is why it was commented on. You sound quite rude....

Kardamyli · 11/07/2015 12:10

Jen, I was responding to your statement In Scotland the use or reproduction of a child's photograph requires consent which is legally incorrect.

In response to your original question. No there is nothing you can do.

You need to learn not to be so chippy when someone points out your mistake. With an attitude like yours I sincerely hope you're not teaching my children.

BuffaloCustardbath · 11/07/2015 12:12

Have you approached the mother who organised the sweatshirts OP?

GinUpGirl · 11/07/2015 12:19

Your child's name and school aren't confidential details.

Kardamyli · 11/07/2015 12:21

And FYi Jen, if yo meant that a photograph can't be used without permission of the person who holds copyright to that photograph, you should have said so. I really do hope you're not teaching my children.

Kardamyli · 11/07/2015 12:23

And further FYI Jen, the person who took the photograph isn't necessarily the person who holds copyright to that photograph.

LongHardStare · 11/07/2015 12:39

If you can afford it, could you pay for 13 of the redesigned sweatshirts without your daughters name on to swap for the problematic ones?

If the danger is high, as in the example above where ex knows the general area you live in and there is a feeder secondary, perhaps you could go to the police and they could have a word with the mother responsible. Not an actual offence but a strong word could be enough to make her take action and collect and destroy the original hoodies.

If you're worried about this happening again (to others), you could speak to the schools involved and ask them to put a general note in a letter or newsletter explaining in the broadest terms about safeguarding issues, that it is an issue for more children than you might expect, that for peace of mind parents shouldn't etc etc

Alfieisnoisy · 11/07/2015 12:52

Your comments in response to YOUR mention of photography are unnecessarily snippy and rude!

I get that you are worried.

I would approach the other mother (in a civil manner) and ask if you can recall all the goodies and explain why.

She's been thoughtless but hasn't done this deliberately. If you can afford it then offer to buy all 13 goodies and she can have more dine without your DD name.

Alfieisnoisy · 11/07/2015 12:53

hoodies

Jenscotland1974 · 11/07/2015 13:07

Apologies if I was rude, I found some comments rather offensive. I would still prefer if comments were made on my original post, not the comments which followed which weren't relevant.
Didn't ask for any advice regarding photography, nor do I require any remarks regarding my teaching career.

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Kardamyli · 11/07/2015 13:11

The thing about Mumsnet Jen is that you don't get to dictate what people say. You don't have to like what anyone says, but rudeness for no reason tends not to endear you to strangers on the Internet.