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people parking in my owned car parking space

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Mrsdavidcaruso · 15/07/2013 06:57

I live in a bungalow that is attached to a larger house which has been converted into flats all the occupants of the flats are tenants but I fully own my property.

Just outside my house are the parking areas, there are 5 parking space with mine being outside my home and the others are opposite.

Since new tenants moved into the flats someone has been parking outside my house, I put a note on their car to warn them that the space is not part of the parking for the main house but is the parking space for my house and is actually owned by me.

I had not used the space until this weekend when I bought home my first car I parked it in my space on Saturday, I then had a visit from the person who has been parking there and she told me that the space had been allocated to her by her LL. I informed her that it was not her LL parking space and that I had paperwork to prove that the space is my property and that she is not allowed to park there.

All kicked off on Sunday with the LL coming round saying it was part of his property, I showed him the sales paperwork which clearly showed the boundry of my land and also the search that my solicitor made which made it clear that the space belongs to the bungalow and not the house.

He is disputing this so I have told him to contact my solicitor ( who I am going to brief this morning) in the meantime I have told him that if his tenant parks in my space they are trespassing. Is there anything else i need to do or anything I need to ask my solicitor.

In the meantime my car is going to be parked outside my house and I wont be able to use it until the matter is sorted, just to say that the road outside the main house is strictly no parking

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gasman · 16/07/2013 10:21

Be careful. I got involved in a similar dispute with tenants and one owner occupier using my parking space. I also showed them deeds etc.

During the time the dispute was ongoing my car was keyed across all panels (bar one - the rear quarter) so would have needed entirely resprayed to rectify the damage. It was a 2 year old premium brand hatch. I was gutted.

Then when one of the neighbours involved was finally evicted one of the wheels of my car was stolen and the car was just dropped onto the ground. Again causing significant damage to repair.

I moved and now live somewhere with on street residents parking and accept I might have to walk home but I don't have the angst / irritation of paying for a parking space for someone else to use.

laeiou · 16/07/2013 14:53

How awful, there's another similar thread in which the car space owner called the police due to tthis sort of harassment. A community support officer is now involved.

Very odd that the renters dont see that the LL is inthe wrong.

ZenGardener · 16/07/2013 15:39

If the LL hasn't spoken to the renters yet then I can see why they think they are in the right. They have been paying money for the space.

I mean we rent a house with 2 parking spaces in front. I can't even imagine what I'd think if one day my neighbour was parked there saying it was her space. So I call the LL, he confirms its my space. The neighbours are still parking there. I'd be pissed off!

Anyway I hope the LL sorts it out with them and gets them off your back. I'd be keeping a close eye on your car though.

SauvignonBlanche · 16/07/2013 15:44

I wouldn't offer them any favours.

Mrsdavidcaruso · 16/07/2013 16:26

Oh this is stupid, LL still has not talked to his tenants. BIL has installed the locking posts that someone suggested, the female tenant has taken the day off work to berate me and film my BIL as he installed the posts. I am getting bloody fed up with it. Yes I do understand that they have paid for something that has been taken away from them I keep telling her to contact her LL and this situation is nothing to do with me. Is she talks about hER parking space again I think I am going to run her over,

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VivaLeBeaver · 16/07/2013 16:37

Hope they don't try and flatten the posts while you're out - they sound bonkers enough to. Next time they berate you on the subject can you film them?

Atomiksnowflake · 16/07/2013 16:39

sound like the LL is avoiding them,in the hope you will cave and he can carry on renting out your parking space.

allmycats · 16/07/2013 16:49

I think it has come to the point where you involve the police - these people are verbally abusing you and your DH. You have also been the victim of fraud where their LL has been passing of your property as belonging to him and receiving a consideration for same.

You could get your solicitor to write to the tenant explaining this.

laeiou · 16/07/2013 16:49

The LL is clearly an idiot who is hoping that ignoring the problem makes it go away.

OP, do you think you might contact the police if they harass you again?

Mrsdavidcaruso · 16/07/2013 16:55

allmycats - thats a good idea to get my solicitor to contact the tenants. At least that is what I am going to email the LL and tell him thats what I am doing and will be sending the bill to him for doing so see if that works

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Mrsdavidcaruso · 16/07/2013 16:57

OH did speak to police on his way into work today but was told it was a civil matter re the parking and the tenants need to contact them about the possible fraud.

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ZenGardener · 16/07/2013 17:03

There is absolutely no excuse for them harassing you. They are going to look like total dicks when they realize. Hopefully they will move out.

Perhaps call the police again and complain about the harassment. That totally is a police matter.

Keep on at the LL and threaten him with further legal action for the fraud if he doesn't contact them ASAP.

Good luck!

skyeskyeskye · 16/07/2013 17:14

Keep a record of all times of verbal abuse. Parking may be a civil matter but if they start to aggressive its a different story.

Their issue really is with their landlord, not with you and if they can't see that then they must be totally stupid. They should be apologising to you and taking it up with him and getting a reduction on their rent.

I would also write a letter to the landlord, stating that he knows the true facts now, yet still hasnt advised his tenants - and send a copy to the tenants.

I hope things settle down soon.

QueenStromba · 16/07/2013 17:18

They all sound like utter bastards. Definitely ask your solicitors to send their bill to the LL - it's really not on that he made you go down that route when he knew full well that the space wasn't his. I'd also want the rent that he's been charging the tenants for your space.

ImTooHecsyForYourParty · 16/07/2013 18:06

The abuse is not a civil matter!

Perhaps you should get the solicitor to write to the landlord ccing the tenants, saying ll has admitted knowing the space is yours and he had no right to offer it to the tenants, but that so far he has failed to, communicate this to the tenants, who are currently embarking on a campaign of harrassment against you and if the landlord does not resolve the situation, you will hold them joinly accountable when you take legal action. Et etc

RobotBananas · 16/07/2013 18:26

Yy,exactly what Hecsy said.

SoupDragon · 16/07/2013 18:38

I would make a complaint to the police about the abuse and harassment.

SoupDragon · 16/07/2013 18:39

As an aside, if the parking space is your private property, are they allowed to film you?

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 16/07/2013 19:13

It may be private property, but it's public space, of course they could film.

nowahousewife · 20/07/2013 10:07

OP, do give us an update on your parking situation. I have been lurking on your thread and have been quite astounded at the whole situation. Hope all is sorted and neighbours not giving you too much grief!

Mrsdavidcaruso · 22/07/2013 13:51

LL eventually spoke to his tenants i don't know what the situation is all I know is that the tenants second car has been moved, where too I don't give a monkeys. However I am getting snide remarks from the female tenant like 'I hope you are happy now' to which I replied 'over the moon love' which didn't go down well. Peeople have told me I should be billing the LL for the extra rent he got using my space, but cant be arsed, just glad I can go out in my little car with my DS.

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RoseFlowerFairy · 22/07/2013 13:57

It should be the landlord the tenants should be annoyed at not you.

skyeskyeskye · 22/07/2013 14:22

If you get too much grief from the tenants, then get a solicitor to write to them clearly stating that it is your space and that it is their landlord who is at fault.

You do not have to put up with snide comments for doing nothing wrong!

LIZS · 22/07/2013 14:33

Leases normally contain a clause about not disturbing the neighbours .

SauvignonBlanche · 22/07/2013 15:30

The LL must be reimbursing the tenants, surely?