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people parking in my owned car parking space

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Mrsdavidcaruso · 15/07/2013 06:57

I live in a bungalow that is attached to a larger house which has been converted into flats all the occupants of the flats are tenants but I fully own my property.

Just outside my house are the parking areas, there are 5 parking space with mine being outside my home and the others are opposite.

Since new tenants moved into the flats someone has been parking outside my house, I put a note on their car to warn them that the space is not part of the parking for the main house but is the parking space for my house and is actually owned by me.

I had not used the space until this weekend when I bought home my first car I parked it in my space on Saturday, I then had a visit from the person who has been parking there and she told me that the space had been allocated to her by her LL. I informed her that it was not her LL parking space and that I had paperwork to prove that the space is my property and that she is not allowed to park there.

All kicked off on Sunday with the LL coming round saying it was part of his property, I showed him the sales paperwork which clearly showed the boundry of my land and also the search that my solicitor made which made it clear that the space belongs to the bungalow and not the house.

He is disputing this so I have told him to contact my solicitor ( who I am going to brief this morning) in the meantime I have told him that if his tenant parks in my space they are trespassing. Is there anything else i need to do or anything I need to ask my solicitor.

In the meantime my car is going to be parked outside my house and I wont be able to use it until the matter is sorted, just to say that the road outside the main house is strictly no parking

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Summerhasloaded · 15/07/2013 19:16

Yup, and he's cost you legal fees!

MrsCampbellBlack · 15/07/2013 19:21

Glad its sorted for you. But I personally wouldn't go mad at the tenant - after all, he was told it was his space and was paying extra for it.

I'd just point out he needs to speak to his LL

ImTooHecsyForYourParty · 15/07/2013 19:21

i was going to say exactly what schobe said.

i cant believe they tried to bully you into giving up your space!

get angry.

OddBoots · 15/07/2013 19:33

The LL will be lucky if you don't bill him the extra rent he has been charging for your property!

hermioneweasley · 15/07/2013 19:37

Agree with Schobe.

You should bill him for your legal fees. Cheeky, greedy, bullying fucker.

Mrsdavidcaruso · 15/07/2013 22:05

God its all kicked off, the LL hasn't spoken to his tenants and I have had both the male and female yelling at me. Lucky DH came home and took over. He has a garage across the road ( so he can have work space) and offered them the opportunity of parking in front of it whilst the mess is being sorted out, you would think they would be grateful, not a flaming chance the man got arsy and wanted to know why I couldn't park my car there instead and give them THEIR space back, young professionals no kids can't understand why I don't want to take my 3yo DS over a busy road just to get to my car, thats the reason why I bought a car and want to park it outside my own house, so I don't have to do that.

The female has now blocked in other tenants by parking the car behind the other parking spaces so a lot of shouting and yelling going on. DH and his brother are going to put down posts with a lockable chain so I can use my car and not have my space nicked.

I do feel sorry for the couple they rented the flat because they thought it had two parking spaces but they are yelling at the wrong people it's not mine or DHs fault.

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Mrsdavidcaruso · 15/07/2013 22:05

God its all kicked off, the LL hasn't spoken to his tenants and I have had both the male and female yelling at me. Lucky DH came home and took over. He has a garage across the road ( so he can have work space) and offered them the opportunity of parking in front of it whilst the mess is being sorted out, you would think they would be grateful, not a flaming chance the man got arsy and wanted to know why I couldn't park my car there instead and give them THEIR space back, young professionals no kids can't understand why I don't want to take my 3yo DS over a busy road just to get to my car, thats the reason why I bought a car and want to park it outside my own house, so I don't have to do that.

The female has now blocked in other tenants by parking the car behind the other parking spaces so a lot of shouting and yelling going on. DH and his brother are going to put down posts with a lockable chain so I can use my car and not have my space nicked.

I do feel sorry for the couple they rented the flat because they thought it had two parking spaces but they are yelling at the wrong people it's not mine or DHs fault.

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Skintorama · 15/07/2013 22:08

Surely the ll has committed fraud?

Would the police be interested?

Nagoo · 15/07/2013 22:09

bollards.

Figgygal · 15/07/2013 22:14

Wow that LL is an arse as are his tenants by the sound of it!!

Stand your ground op

nickymanchester · 15/07/2013 22:26

You're doing right to stand your ground and not be drawn into a slanging match. I don't know if I would have remained so calm as you seem to be achieving.

DH and his brother are going to put down posts with a lockable chain

Totally the right thing to do

RoseFlowerFairy · 15/07/2013 23:12

I hope you get those chains and posts in quickly. As much as I feel for the tenants, they are totally out of order shouting at you. Your ll has made you spend money on legal fee's, had you scapegoated by his tenants and been racking it in using your land.

Mrsdavidcaruso · 15/07/2013 23:41

I think it is fraud Skintorama, but not my problem they are going to have to take it up with their LL - in the meantime its all gone quiet - all I want to do is to take my DS to the beach but looks like we will have to go by bus until posts and chain are in situ.

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MidniteScribbler · 16/07/2013 01:56

Get your solicitor to write to the landlord and claim the rent that he charged for using your property!

Can anyone else imagine Judge Judy hearing this case?

Damnautocorrect · 16/07/2013 03:02

Why on earth does the tenant think shouting at you is the way forward. I'd start threatening police on them if they continue to harass you.
Cheeky blooming LL charging rent on the 'spare' space.

ratbagcatbag · 16/07/2013 03:20

Surely if they park in your space whilst your out and refuse to move you can get them towed? I'd be a right cow now after how they've behaved and do that. :)

ZenGardener · 16/07/2013 05:42

I feel sorry for the tenants for being ripped off but that was no reason to yell at you. I think the LL is going to be in a heap of shit. I really hope they don't give you anymore trouble.

What on earth was going through his head renting out something that doesn't belong to him?

Onetwo34 · 16/07/2013 06:26

The LL is a cheeky thief. The tenants are probably feeling righteously angry as they've been misled but they've been directing it at the wrong people. I would withdraw the offer to park in front of the garage if they carried on arguing with you like that.
Poor you!

SoupDragon · 16/07/2013 07:19

The LL is indeed a cheeky fucker. I do feel sorry for the tenants as they are paying for something and do not see why they shouldn't have it - however, they shouldn't be threatening you and they need to talk to their LL.

digerd · 16/07/2013 07:33

LL was "in a bit of a mess", as he lied to his tenants and charged them a higher rent for the use of your owned unused parking space. He'll have to reduce their rent now, and refund it to them .
Serves him right for being dishonest!

Tenants are being unreasonable too expecting you to park outside DH's garage on the opposite side of the road, while they park in front of your house on your land, as more convenient for them but not for you

BadSkiingMum · 16/07/2013 07:48

I think that you should send the tenants and landlord a firm letter saying that any prior use they had was not within the law and that you are offering them use of parking across the road purely as a courtesy and that this will not be offered to any subsequent tenants. However, any further verbal abuse will be reported to the police.

LIZS · 16/07/2013 07:54

agree with bsm . Make it clear the dispute is between tenant and ll. Parking previously was without your permission, you received no financial benefit and was effectively trespass . Can they not park behind their other car ? If they can't park off road otherwise then it may invalidate insurance.

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ZenGardener · 16/07/2013 08:53

I honestly wouldn't encourage them to park in front of your garage. The tenants sound a bit nightmarish and I can see them causing you trouble.

This really isn't your problem. Put your bollards up and if they threaten you again call the police.

RussiansOnTheSpree · 16/07/2013 09:07

CAll the police. They are threatening you.

peggyundercrackers · 16/07/2013 09:25

i would be using my car as normal and if they park in the space simple solution is to call the police to move them as they are trespassing. I certainly would not go without because of them.

get a solicitors letter sent to them and their LL to tell them they need to stop parking on your property.

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