Anyone post-transfer/in 2WW?

[Janefx40]

Hello!

I'm currently 4dp5dt with our last ever embryo. Already have a 3 year old DD from our second round of ICSI and it's been a long road since.

Just wondered if anyone else was out there in the 2WW and fancied keeping each other company?!!

Xxx

Hi @Janefx40 how are you doing today?

I’m having a bit of a panic as DH met his parents for dinner last night and MIL has text today to say she’s tested positive for Covid. Apparently she felt ill yesterday but didn’t bother testing.
I’m so worried now that I’m going to get it if DH has caught it and it will impact the transfer. I don’t know if it will effect anything but I’m guessing it won’t do me any good.

@MariaMc1 try not to worry. I do my think it would affect anything even if you did get it. I've read loads of threads/FB posts from people who got Covid post transfer and were fine. If you got it, the embryo would be well past implantation at that stage.

How are you feeling otherwise?

I've been feeling down but trying to be more optimistic and enjoy the possibility of being pregnant!

@Janefx40 I see - so it's early days that you usually get symptoms. With my only BFP I didn't notice anything until 9 days after transfer so at 14dp definitely feel I should have noticed something by now.

I am with you on the frustration of people saying they have no symptoms and then listing lots. Though, maybe I am guilty of that in a way as there are things I'm dismissing either because I felt them either pre-transfer or I've had them on BFN rounds so I'm putting it down to meds. In case it helps anyone coming to this thread later - because I'm with you on the late-night scrolling! - what I've noticed is: a consistent low-level fatigue (not falling asleep but more tired than usual, started pre-transfer & had same on BFN rounds), disrupted sleep (more tossing and turning than usual, same on BFN rounds), v slight increase in breast size (same on BFN rounds), occasional tingling sensation in breasts/nipples (same on BFN rounds), occasional cramps (usually after putting pessary in, same on BFN rounds) and going to the loo more often (same on BFN rounds) though this seems less so in the last few days.

Only differences this time: pink blood the evening of 10dp (a pink tinge on a pad rather than distinct spots of blood, sorry for TMI), nothing overnight, a little more pink the morning of 11dp, then v small amount of brown, then nothing since. On one previous transfer I had a little red bleeding the day before OTD and it turned into my period, so this was new/different, but am convinced it's due to irritation. Finally, proof that I'm clutching at straws, my Fitbit tells me that my heart rate has been climbing a bit (not loads) since 4dp. It fluctuated/climbed less on my last BFN round but it can vary anyway, this isn't the highest it has ever been and I know meds/stress/sleep issues will be having an impact.

Sorry if I've just made you swear! Not the intention at all, but maybe it could be useful for someone else down the line.

I'm working but flexibly, so likewise here to chat! I'll be home alone to test. My family aren't against IVF but aren't engaged either and they never ask how it's going. A couple of friends know about this round and may ask but really it's just me. Hope your days at home aren't passing too slowly. The TWW is a different time zone.

@lucymills1234 I know what you mean about a different time zone! I was actually feeling quite positive on Monday and realised that is literally only 2 days ago. It seems like weeks.

Ha! You didn't make me swear. When I have no symptoms, I literally have none that have come post transfer although I do have massive constipation due to the progesterone. Never had that before actually on previous rounds. It's messing my head because I get a cramp, hope it means something and then realise it's the constipation again. I am massively de-hydrated because of the steroids but that started before transfer - basically started a couple of days after taking them.

I really think that spotting could be a good sign. Implantation bleeding isn't an exact science - it can come earlier or later. Although the embryo implants (hopefully) 2-3 days post transfer, it keeps burrowing for a little while and that can disturb the uterus. That is my unscientific opinion anyway!

Will you test in the morning? What tests will you use?

@Janefx40 I went from fear to hope to logic on the tiny bleed. Fear it was my period, brief hope it could be implantation then the logic that there was nothing on the pessary applicator but I saw the pink a few hours later, so it seems connected to the pessary going in. Who knows!

Are you on prednisolone? This is my first transfer with it, but I've not particularly noticed dehydration. In fact, I think I was thirstier on the last go without it which shows how individual we all are. Fortunately I've not had any major issues with constipation. Probably down to luck but I do eat a gut-healthy granola for breakfast so maybe that helps - at least I'll tell myself that to justify the cost... Digestion certainly has a lot to answer for as sometimes I get an odd sensation and realise it's because I've just eaten and am full!

I'll use a FRER. I only have one in the house which is a good way to stop yourself testing early :) When my lines got weaker after the chemical my clinic suggested using a Clear Blue that just says pregnant/not rather than trying to judge a line but they typically recommend a FRER (and say totally avoid the tests that give weeks as a result). No doubt I'll wake super-early and lie there worrying until I bite the bullet and do it. At least at 15dp the result won't be ambiguous - no chance it will change that late on. Keep trying to tell myself that me taking the test isn't what changes anything. The result is already the result and once I know I can plan. Though I don't think I have any options, sadly. I'd like to try DE but funds are lacking.

You're going to test a little early, right? Do your clinic check your progesterone again before then?

@lucymills1234 I don't quite follow the logic part - if there was nothing on the applicator then surely it's even more likely to be implantation?

My uterus feels so heavy and full but still. This is how it feels when it's basically just pumped full of progesterone so it can't bleed - it's just in a state of waiting.

Very brave to only have one FRER!! I'll check my phone in case you want me.

I personally like the weeks indicators but they have been very accurate for me in the past (my previous clinic did regular Hcg so I could confirm the results). Clinics just like to make things easy for themselves and avoid the grey areas that lead to questions. But I prefer to know the detail. Sorry if that sounds harsh. I'm a bit down on IVF clinics.

I'll test on Sunday at 10dp5dt which would be test day at my former clinic. I go by their protocols for a lot of things. My official test day is 14dp5dt but that is 19dpo equivalent so very late. I'll probably keep taking the meds until that day anyway - may as well use them up.

Am so depressed I'm finding it hard to function. Hope you get through the night.

@lucymills1234 thinking of you. No need to respond if you don't want to just sending you love xxx

@Janefx40 i feel so ridiculous. I woke up around 5.30 not actually needing the loo (and with a pounding headache) so lay there until about 7. Got up then and went to the loo but couldn’t face testing, so used a pot that I can dip a test in so it’s still FMU. Why am I so paralysed to just do the test?

I think that though the logical part of my brain knows it’s a bfn I’m just not ready to see it. I have to get the result from a meds perspective so I need to do it, I honestly can’t believe I’m being so hopeless.

@lucymills1234 it's not hopeless at all. I'm sure I will feel the same way on Sunday. It's overwhelming.

This is the hardest bit. Once you know, you can start dealing with the result whatever it is. Sometimes I make a plan for what I will do afterwards - even if that is "ring x, make a cup of tea, watch y on tv". Then you can just go through the motions if it's not the result you hope for.

You could get a blood test instead if you think that would be easier?

Take all the time you need.

Sending you love

Xxx

Thanks for the support @Janefx40

As anticipated it's a stark white BFN. That's 2 years, £45,000 and 9 transfers. No words. I hope you're having a better day. Will write more later.

@lucymills1234 I'm so sorry. It's just so unfair. I hope you are able to take good care of yourself today. I wish I had some words of comfort but I know there aren't any. So I'll just send you love and solidarity xxxx

How are you doing @MariaMc1 ? Did your DH get Covid? Are you feeling ok?

How are you coping @Imisscoffee2021. When is your test day?

@Janefx40 Hi, I'm okay thanks, going slightly nuts in this TWW! I've tested out the trigger which I won't do if I have to do another fresh cycle again, spent too long squinting at tests! I'm going to leave it til OTD which is 14th, and distract myself with work :)

@Imisscoffee2021 good idea to distract yourself! I've been off work which is good in some ways but bad in others.

When did you do your final trigger test x

@Janefx40 I did it yesterday and was a super super faint line but i was obsessing and comparing to previous days etc and just was getting me nowhere, so I'll give it a few days and not test. Also need to keep reminding myself not to list every symptom, woke uo this morning with nausea and banging headache but that was short lived, and most likely progesterone as i'm on 800 a day either suppositories, it's such a mind game this ivf malarkey! Whens your test day? X

@Imisscoffee2021 I've just gone to the loo and found that I'm bleeding. Really confused as on a massive dose of progesterone. Didn't know it was possible to bleed like that. Gutted.

I may test now so that I know what's going on. Not sure

@Janefx40 oh no! I have read that some women get a bleed at implantation? Fingers crossed its just that 🤞are you close to your OTD/usual period? X

@Imisscoffee2021 I just tested because of the bleeding. I wanted to know what I was dealing with. And it's positive. But am bleeding so I'm nervous that it's going to be lost again.

I hope it's just implantation bleeding or a hormone shift bleed, are you going to get in touch with your clinic? Was it a good strong positive? Hope it sticks for you, got my fingers crossed x

@Imisscoffee2021 it was a strong positive on FRER but really faint on the easy@home which is weird.

I had my progesterone tested yesterday so called for results and it was 145 so I shouldn't be bleeding. They said to stop the blood thinners.

I'm pleased that I'm still in the game but wish it could be less stressful ! Realistically there is nothin to do but rest and wait

Brilliant to het a strong, must be comfy in there and releasing hcg so hope the bleeding slows! How many days post transfer are you? X

8 days. Feeling really dizzy but think maybe I am just panicking!

Sorry I didn't write again yesterday @Janefx40 . Feeling extremely broken and beyond sad that I have tried so hard and walk away from this process empty-armed. I thought I was being reasonably realistic aiming for 'just' one baby and hoping that four ECs and 9 transfers might achieve it. And yet...

Congratulations on the positive test. I understand it must be stressful but a positive is a positive - you still have every chance, especially with strong progesterone levels. Hope the bleeding stops soon.

@lucymills1234 I'm so sorry. Of course you feel broken. We go through so much trauma during this process and we tend to ignore it and just keep going because we want to get to the next cycle/treatment. But this is all so traumatic.

I see a counsellor sometimes who I met through the clinic. Do you see anyone? They can't change what we've been through but it does help me to order my thoughts a bit.

Hi @Janefx40 luckily he seems absolutely fine thanks for asking. He actually booked us a trip away (after phoning the nurses to check) so I’m now killing time in the sun which was a nice surprise.

I am a little worried as I had a tiny bit of light pink spotting yesterday and today it has gone brown and also got some cramps now too. I’m trying not to think the worst but the feeling is like AF is starting. I don’t know whether to test or not but husband is pretty sure we should wait until OTD.

It’s great that you got a BFP although can see why you’re being cautious, how is the bleeding for you today?