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Infertility

Our Infertility Support forum is a space to connect with others in the same position, discuss causes, treatment and IVF, and share infertility stories of hope and success.

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I can't stop crying. Need some positivity!

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ohsheglows · 02/11/2021 07:13

I'm doing a 3 cycle package at Create Fertility. The first round I got 5 eggs and one embryo good enough to freeze, the second round I got 8, again one to freeze. Had a 3 month break, found out my DH had high DNA fragmentation. Started my third round this time only having 3 follicles, got 2 eggs and we got the news yesterday that neither of them fertilised through ICSI.

I felt sick. I was confident that at least one might make it as we'd always had one embryo out from the rounds, also part of me wishes we went for IVF instead of ICSI as we had more fertilise when we did IVF, but they pushed for ICSI because of the low fert rate.

Now we don't have any fresh transfers, they've asked if we want to thaw one and transfer tomorrow as a day 3. Im nervous it's not going to thaw. After the news yesterday I just wanted to give up and cry and cry and cry. But it's so hard to stay positive whilst taking all these meds too! These flipping pessaries are the worst as well.

Does anyone have any similar stories or stories of hope?

Thanks all

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MabelG · 02/11/2021 08:15

@ohsheglows Yes me! I also did a 3 cycle package and got one embryo out of the whole lot. Had FET and against all odds (thin lining too) it worked. If it's good enough to freeze you're in with a chance. Good luck x

Smiler79 · 02/11/2021 08:22

There’s a lady on here who got two embryos in three cycles at create and had twins @twinninginlife I think was her name

Smiler79 · 02/11/2021 08:23

I only had one fresh via ivf and 34 weeks now. Don’t lose hope

tiggerwhocamefortea · 02/11/2021 08:57

Don't give up! I know it's crushing when you set a sort of target in your head - I did 5 rounds st Create. The last 3 was a 4 cycle package of natural modified IVF with ICSI - i did end up having twins though - didn't have anything good enough for a fresh transfer on the final collection so thawed 2 frozen (1 at day 3 and a day 6) and put them back instead xx

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ohsheglows · 02/11/2021 09:00

Thanks @MabelG for your reply and congrats on yours working out! Did you have the FET on the same round as the fresh transfer or did you take a month off to do the FET?

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tiggerwhocamefortea · 02/11/2021 09:00

@Smiler79

There’s a lady on here who got two embryos in three cycles at create and had twins *@twinninginlife* I think was her name

Yes that's me 😁

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ohsheglows · 02/11/2021 09:01

Ahh @Smiler79 I'll have to check out her posts. I'm trying to remain positive so reading these stories gives me a little bit of hope!

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Smiler79 · 02/11/2021 09:06

@tiggerwhocamefortea haha ! Your story is so great 💓 twins

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ohsheglows · 02/11/2021 09:09

@tiggerwhocamefortea oooh hello! Congrats on your twins! Your story is exactly what I needed for today. Do you mind me asking if you had your two embryos put back in during your 'fresh' round, or did you wait a month before staring another FET cycle and then transferring the two?

They said to thaw one and transfer tomorrow, which would have been my fresh transfer date, but I'm worried that all these drugs in my body will affect it implanting!

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MabelG · 02/11/2021 09:26

@ohsheglows I had a break and then did FET but that was because my lining was even thinner when they did the final retrieval! You should be ok as many people transfer on a fresh cycle and you were probably on fairly low dose stims at Create anyway? I did ask about thaw rates as I too was terrified it wouldn't survive but they said their thaw rates are around 97% if I remember correctly.

tiggerwhocamefortea · 02/11/2021 10:07

@ohsheglows

Yes - basically I had a very similar experience to you. Did cycle 1 and 2 of the 3 cycle package back to back. Got 2 embryos frozen from each cycle. But then due to covid lockdown had to have a break of about 8 weeks for the last one and it ended up being a rubbish cycle and didn't get anything to do as a fresh transfer. They asked if I wanted to wait a month and do a frozen but I just wanted to get on with it as the waiting was killing me and that was planned as our last ever cycle and i was ready to stop - I'd actually started to feel quite resentful of how IVF had taken over our lives and it has been 5 rounds in 18 months by that point. So agreed on thawing a day 3 and day 6 and putting them in together. Had zero hopes of it working as on a previous round at Create did PGS testing and didn't get any normals

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ohsheglows · 02/11/2021 11:16

@tiggerwhocamefortea oh wow, your story is crazily similar to mine. I also did 2 cycles back to back, then had a 12 week break whilst waiting for my DH urologist results and my third round was the worst I've ever had!

I just spoke to the embryologist, she's confident that if I'm feeling well, and my lining is good then she would still suggest a frozen transfer. So I guess we go ahead. Are your twins identical or did both embryos take to give you non-identical twins?

Also, did you have to pay extra for your FET, or was it included as part of your FRESH round?

I'm so sorry for the gazillion questions!

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ohsheglows · 02/11/2021 11:28

@MabelG Yes I was pretty low dose - 150 of Bemfola and just the standard cetrotide and double trigger.

Odd about how your lining was thinner than before. Do they know what caused that?

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tiggerwhocamefortea · 02/11/2021 12:17

Yes my 3rd collection of the package was the worst out of all 5 - I think it was my bodies way of saying it had had enough since in the break time I'd done everything "right" in preparation for that final collection

I didn't pay extra because it was a FET as the package included "a transfer" but I don't know if that's strictly in accordance with the rules but I had a really good relationship with the team at Create (and they knew we'd spent £35k by this point and were skint!)

My twins are boy and girl so both stuck - I have a really odd really that if I had done single transfers they wouldn't have stuck and that they needed each other - create wanted to transfer different higher graded embryos but I specifically chose these 2. My little girl twin was very small and nearly didn't make it. I read somewhere that having hcg in your system helps make the uterus more receptive and help implantation. I think my boy was the faster growing day 3 as he was always over a week ahead of his sister in size and she was the day 6 frozen that was slow to get going but helped by him implanting first and making it the right conditions in there for her to stick 🥰
(Of course I could also be crazy! But it's a comforting thought)

Smiler79 · 02/11/2021 14:46

I love that thought @tiggerwhocamefortea Bet they will be super close x

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ohsheglows · 02/11/2021 16:19

@tiggerwhocamefortea ah that's fab thank you. I just got a phone call from create to confirm the same thing, luckily it's included in the cost as we're also quite skint too!

Awh I'm so happy that you ended up with your twins. I'm really hoping tomorrow is the sticky embryo I need.

@Smiler79 all the best for your due date as well! Have you found out the gender of your baby?

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ohsheglows · 03/11/2021 15:23

Hi everyone, I just want to say thanks so much for your positivity yesterday. My embryo thawed perfectly and we had our transfer today. 🤞🤞🤞 for a sticky one. Now to put my feet up and enjoy being PUPO!

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tiggerwhocamefortea · 03/11/2021 15:31

@ohsheglows

Ah congratulations!!! Got my fingers crossed for you 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

whatcangowrong · 03/11/2021 16:23

Fingers crossed for you @ohsheglows !

Also if you don't mind me asking you guys re Create... is there an option to go a fresh transfer each time even if you're going back to back?

I'm trying for a second child and although if we had embryos left after that I'd consider a third, it's really not my priority.

At the moment I just want to get pregnant ASAP with my second so I can stop having ivf take over my whole life for a bit :-/ so would be hoping to do low dose cycles with fresh transfers basically until pregnant. Any thoughts?

tiggerwhocamefortea · 03/11/2021 16:44

@whatcangowrong

If you do the 3 cycle package it only includes 1 transfer so you have to wait until after the 3rd egg collection before transferring

But if you do natural modified in theory you can do them back to back with no periods in the middle - so all done in 3 months which is much quicker than "normal" ivf which can obviously be weeks and weeks between cycles

I was the same in that we were doing IVF for a sibling and i just wanted to draw a line under it all as it was starting to effect my oldest and I felt it wasn't fair on her anymore

Also although I found it really hard waiting I do credit some success of my round to being able to actually make an informed decision of what to put back rather than just popping back in whatever was available on that round - I was doing double transfers so Create looked at my 4 frozen ones and the time lapse notes and grouped them together in pairs which best complimented/fit together.

whatcangowrong · 03/11/2021 16:55

Thanks @tiggerwhocamefortea - thinking I would be inclined towards natural modified, assume the package is a decent saving though?

Will give it one more go with normal approach first I think, though gonna ask to try dropping the dose anyway as feel my body may be being pushed too hard ....

tiggerwhocamefortea · 03/11/2021 17:08

@whatcangowrong

My 3 cycle package of natural modified IVF with ICSI, freezing, an FET and all drugs was £13k so much cheaper overall than the single rounds of short protocol I did

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ohsheglows · 06/11/2021 10:04

Sooo I'm 3dp3dt. No symptoms. Is this normal? I'm being neurotic I know but this 2WW is torture 🙄

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MabelG · 06/11/2021 11:05

@ohsheglows yes completely normal, I didn't have any symptoms AT ALL and was convinced it hadn't worked!

trying2022 · 06/11/2021 11:26

Thanks @MabelG it's encouraging to know no one else has symptoms too! I'm going to have to stop googling everything 🙈

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