Anyone starting IVF soon? Join me (3)

[purplemeggie]

Ha! I was just about to post the last message in the old thread linking to this, but I'm too late, we've already filled it up! I'll do the same as last time and send PMs to everyone who's been on the thread recently, but everyone's welcome

Oh so you are on mild ivf too? There is someone out here in czech with me at the moment doing mild IVF with pcos. They are only aiming to get a max of 3 or 4 embryos from her. She has only been on 75iu of Menopur with clomid. Have they stopped your stimms now after your last scan and just doing cetrotide?

Lucie & cat, when will you next get an update on your lovely eggs?

And waiting, I'm at the other end of the spectrum and am a poor responder, so I've only ever researched how to produce more eggs and have no idea on the OHSS thing and how to prevent it. I hope your clinic can advise. Let us know what they say.

AFM, today is day 22 of my cycle. So counting down til my period arrives and I'm into my next cycle when I start the estrogen on day 21 and it finally feels like something is happening instead of just waitng. Hubby has got a bad cold - just when it's less than 7 weeks to EC. He eats so much junk and hence has bad sperm and is the reason I am going through this and now it's resulted in a cold (DS and I don't have it), so it's hard to feel sorry for him.

No, I was told to still continue with the gonal f and cetrotide. Nothing about mild ivf seems very mild to me.

Oh bollocks waiting. Did they at least give a reason as to why you are continuing on stimming so it can make sense in your mind and perhaps make it more mentally bearable if you can know a logical reason for it?

No they just said to carry on with the same dose?? I will ask again tomorrow. I'm not the expert obviously they are but I thought they would have at least reduced the dose

waiting, because I don't produce many follicles/eggs, I have done lots of research on how to improve the quality of the few I do produce. One thing I have learned is that egg quality and pregnancy rates are highest when estrogen levels grow at a certain rate (very complicated math formula to calculate the rate). The one cycle where I had my estrogen levels climbing within this range was the one cycle I had 2 top quality day 3 embryos and a brief pregnancy. So perhaps this may reassure you that it is best for you egg quality even though you already have egg quantity. Hope you can take it easy today and get through the day.

Shell not too much time for you then until you can begin next cycle. I hope it goes quickly for you and dhs cold gets better soon.

We have to ring for another update on day 3 which will be Wednesday. Today we are leaving the town that we are in and going to Prague for a couple of nights. I'm really looking forward to it and it will be nice to have a day off the rollercoaster. Just hope those little embryos give us more good news tomorrow.

So my news is that 4 of our 6 eggs have fertilised. Would have liked more but I guess that's enough. Am I being silly?

We are definitely on for day 3 or day 5 transfer.

DH is finally interested in the process (now his swimmers are involved I suppose) and has been doing lots of research on numbers of eggs, embryos, blasts, transfers and pgs.

purple your gins (which got autocorrected to "guns" for me!) made me smile. I shall be having a large gin either nine months after a BFP or immediately after a BFN in your honour.

Waiting hope you are not too sore today. I'm a lot less sore this morning than I was yesterday. Just have pessary joy to look forward to, I will try not to cough!

Waves to shell, yep everything is fine at the moment.
Impatient- i was on same dose as you (with pcos) 75/150 alternating so the same. I get the impression like shell was saying about e2 rising and keeping them growing that they need to start off with a certain amount of growth rate. (And maybe get to certain size before reducing doses or coasting)
As they are growing slowly that might be why it will take till sun for EC as say maybe you are growing 1mm a day due to low dose rather than the 2 other people grow. (On first cycle i had ec on day 17)
It seems like different clinics aim for different size lead follicle.

What amazing fertilisation rates you are all getting. Fx for them getting to blast.

Good news lucie and blackandwhite on your fertilisations. Hopefully they'll be growing nice and strong for you.

Sounds like you're having a rotten time, waiting - Sunday must seem an age away. I think we've got similar set ups; PCOS, high AMH and 112.5 of Gonal F, so I'm now expecting stimms to be unpleasant/uncomfortable.

I re-read my schedule and sure enough it gave my dosage nice and clearly; 2 sniffs in the morning and 2 in the evening. Not 2 in each nostril; not sure where I got that from. So that was my last minute panic all sorted, and I did my first sniffs this morning. Am all hayfevery at the moment, but managed not to sneeze after the sniffs, so didn't have to re-do it. I've also called my GP surgery and the doc on telephone duty seemed happy enough to authorise my bloods, so I'll get that sorted in the next day or two.

Good news on your bloods karou and glad you got your dose sorted. There is just so much info to take in, isn't there? Good to be started, I expect.

At least you won't behaving a10pm panic that you're missing some drugs, now you've gone through your entire inventory. wow was that really less than a week ago? So much has happened.

I'll bet its been a busy week for you, blackandwhite and you can't even sit down and relax, I guess. Do you know when you're expecting ET?

Have just discovered that the hospital where I was planning to get my bloods done has changed over to an appointment system rather than just being a walk in. Am glad I looked it up before just turning up! If I can't get an appointment there I'll have to go into the bigger hospital which does have a walk in bloods clinic, and then battle the traffic to get back out to work!

Cat everyone always wants more . Don't fixate on the numbers - 4 truly splendid embryos would do very nicely.

Great news from you too, Lucie. Enjoy Prague. Hope it's lovely and sunny there.

Chin up Waiting. No, it doesn't sound very mild at all. Hope you're not too uncomfortable.

You sound a bit low too, Shellster. Are you okay? Last cycle blues?

Karou glad you've got your meds sorted and you've got going.

Hopefully you won't feel like this blue- try not to worry I'm wondering if I'm just really sensitive to the medications

Went for a walk after my appt as thought it might help. Big mistake as I was waddling and uncomfortable so went home. Had a lie down then realised as I lay on my back that I have two very prominent lumps where I assume my ovaries are so they must be massively swollen! I've been told to stay on same dose of meds tonight and will be seen again tomorrow at 1020 am.

Is it def the case that if I have an alternative trigger that it will completely avoid ohss? I'm worried now that being so swollen anyway I will just get it regardless or is that impossible?

Thanks for the reassurance purple. I can't believe we have to wait 2 whole days to find out how they're getting on. Wish I'd gone for that embryocam now (joking, I can wait).

karou I've had today and yesterday off work (you have to because of the sedation) so I've been taking things v easy. I wasn't really with it yesterday even in the afternoon, but much better today, still sore and being careful how much I bend over/pick things up as that hurt yesterday.

We will get a call Thursday morning (day 3) to tell us whether ET will be that morning, or (if there are three+ embryos still going strong) that we are aiming for blastocysts on day 5 (Saturday). I decided that it looks suss if I go back to work tomorrow to then ring in sick again on Thursday so I'm pretty much going to take the whole week off trying not to feel too guilty

Good luck with your day 3 update tomorrow, Lucie let us know how you get on.

waiting, as ever, thinking of you

4 out of 6 is good news Cat! As Purple says, you always want more but I'd be chuffed with that result. It only takes one after all. Actually, I'm thinking about having 'IT ONLY TAKES ONE' printed on some t-shirts that I'll sell here on Mumsnet. Who wants one?!

Good luck Lucie and Waiting. Karou, I'm also sniffing at the moment so I sympathise with your nasal confusion. I'm now on 2 sniffs a day (down from 4) but I keep forgetting if I've done them or not. Injections are a lot less easy to forget.

Shellster my dear, don't feel downhearted by your DH. You're in the midst of it all now and you can't change him, as much as you'd like to. Better to focus on yourself and mentally prepare for the cycle ahead - not long now! x

I have got a bad headache tonight and nausea so am going to try and get some rest. Desperately hoping there's been a lot of growth by tomorrow so that I can have ec and start to feel better

blue I'm definitely in for a t-shirt. Shall we put "embryo fairy please stop here" on the backs?

Fx for tomorrow waiting

Will check in again Thursday for your update black! And lucie, it's Wed am here in Australia, so if I check in again tonight, I hope to hear good news. Checking out Prague while you wait sounds like a lovely distraction.

Purple and blue, how are you getting on while you are waiting for your FET's to take place? I was doing well waiting, until now. It's cycle day 23 and I am just waiting for my period to arrive so I can get into next cycle and start counting down to day 21 when I finally start taking estrogen in prep for IVF the following cycle so I can feel like things are getting started. Yes I guess I am a bit down about my husband at the moment... just didn't realise it until you asked the question purple. Last night he didn't eat the vegies I put on his plate then turned to packets of chips after dinner. So frustrating knowing that unlike eggs, sperm can be fixed but he doesn't do a thing about it while my clock is ticking away. This had better work as I don't know how to let go of the resentment if it doesn't. Okay, rant over. I guess I just have to keep doing my best with him, making him healthy lunches and HOPING he eats them, then trying to get him to eat my healthy dinners.

Well done black, 4 out of 6 is good fertilisation! My turn again in a few hours. I hate making these phone calls! Really hope they are doing ok and growing nicely.

Good luck with your appt today waiting I really hope they can bring your collection forward you sound so uncomfortable.

Shell nice to hear from you but sorry you are feeling down. It must be hard that your husband won't help himself or you. Keep doing what you are doing though hun I think the eggs are the most important bit and there are things they can do with icsi etc for sperm. Will update later x

I had a terrible evening yest and felt truly awful and in pain. Went to bed and woke up feeling fine! Still very bloated and a bit of discomfort but so so much better ????!!!!
Had my appt and have to go again on Friday now. Although I have lots and lots of follicles only two are 20mm and they want some more to catch up.

The lead consultant saw me and said that because I have a low bmi and pcos I'm just feeling more discomfort due to that and he's not worried. I have just been told to rest more and drink plenty. I can't believe how much better I feel today though its like a miracle. I feel positive again.

Hope everyone else is ok

Hi there, have rung up today, I feel a little bit disappointed but don't know if I am silly to. I don't really know enough about this stage but I thought they were meant to be 8 cells now on day 3. So they are all still going and we have 1x9 cell, 2x7 cell and 3x6 cell. Transfer is 1130am on Friday. I'm off to google now to find out what's meant to be going on x

I'm no expert Lucie but according to this guide, "expected" development on D3 is 6-9 cells so yours are all on-track. Not my clinic but I've found that guide really useful. Sounds like you will have plenty of blasts Fx

Waiting so glad you are feeling better, good to have reassurance from your consultant.

I'm not waiting patiently today. Wish I knew what was happening in that petri dish!

"Shellster" your DH sounds so frustrating! What does he say when you talk to him about healthy eating/sperm?

Trying to eat the core of my pineapple. Yuk! But only a minor discomfort compared to everything else!

Thanks black I have read so many different things now. Some people have told me 6 is a bit slow others have said its not. I guess it's just a waiting game to see! Are you getting an update tomorrow?

Waiting really glad to hear you are feeling a little better and have been black to the clinic

Ha ha Blue - sounds like the tee shirts could be a good business venture . My UK clinic had a board of pictures of the babies they'd helped to create and there were twins in babygros that said "Worth the Wait" and another pair in babygros that said "Worth Every Penny". Always made me laugh.

Glad you're feeling better Waiting

Lucie - don't forget that "day 8" is a whole 24 hours and your phone call is in the morning, so they've still got time to become text-book embryos. I think you should be proud of that crop, they sound splendid to me .

Cat - sending you good vibes.

Hugs to Shellster x