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Starting IVF/ICSI this month - anyone want to join the journey?

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Rumplestrumpet · 02/10/2014 09:25

After over 2.5 years TTC, we're FINALLY about to start our fertility treatment this month (ICSI). My nurse and husband forbade me from chats and forums, but after following MN threads over recent years I think it would be a great help to share the experience with those going through the same thing.

Anyone else want to share the joys/terrors of belly injections, hormonal madness and a series of medical professionals poking around your nether regions?! And, of course, hopefully a BFP at the end of it all Smile

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anroga · 15/10/2014 15:02

Hi Seb101

That is completely wrong for your consultant to ring you the day before you start injections to see if you can postpone starting treatment for a monthn as she is going on holiday! Beggars belief! Out of interest is that NHS or Private?

I start mine at the end of November and I am chomping at the bit now to get started so can completely understand why you want to carry on tonight even without the consultant.

Wishing you lots of luck with your first injection tonight xxx

Ps - You would think that the consultant would have some idea of how this would make you feel but obvs not! x

allchatnicknamesgone · 15/10/2014 15:57

Rumple. Hiya. Egg collection is fine. My hubby drove me home, felt absolutely ok. Hand little bruised from cannula, but I bruise easily and it was no big deal. The only thing that was really uncomfortable over next few days was my follicles. It was like stitch and I just took some painkillers. It was like being pregnant though because I needed the loo every 5 mins. It's because I was drinking loads and one follicle grew to about 24mm I think se it was just uncomfortable. Completely normal life resumed though day after.

Embryo Transfer - I had mine 5 days later. Got bus there and got bus home. Just like a longer smear test. I can honestly say the only uncomfortable bit is the nurse pressing down on your tummy with scanner because you need a pee!

seb, I think that is disgusting behaviour of a consultant. Unless she had mitigating circumstances for unplanned leave, why the heck leave it up to the night before to tell you? For what it is worth, I think you have 100% made the right decision. You have built you mental strength up to do it so go for it. Also, having just finished the process myself and in the 2ww, I didn't see a doctor or consultant once until he was just about to go inside to get my eggs! Nurses do every scan, every blood test, every phone call to you! My understand is that your notes go into daily meetings with the consultants. Whose to say your stand in consultant isn't better anyhow!! Keep positive. Good luck with your first injection….you won't batter an eye lid honestly. x

Rumplestrumpet · 15/10/2014 16:14

Welcome back Seb. I share allchat and anroga's outrage - ridiculous for her to call you the day before you start treatment! One can only imagine she had a desperate family situation that needed dealing with (I'm probably too generous in explaining unreasonable behaviour!) but in any case well done for sticking to your guns. I was also chomping at the bit and terrified that my dodgy cycles was going to postpone us another month. I know in the grand scheme of things, a month is not much (not sure how long you've been TTC for? But we've been at it for 2.5 painful years) but it's the psychological element that's so tough. So, in brief, we're all rooting for you!

Thanks for the tips allchat - really good to know. My clinic will sign me off for two days for the EC, so that will allow me to laze on the sofa with a movie and cuppa if I'm too uncomfortable to work the next day.

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lildottie · 15/10/2014 19:56

hi all

seb omg I'd have been outraged! also agree you did the right thing. I was told it might even be the head nurse who does my ec!

rumples 4 is still 4 more than none. and its only first scan. could still be some tiddlers hiding in the back they can't see yet? try to stay positive. after all it only takes one! got everything crossed for you.

angora I'm starting pill then doing long protocol for icsi too. I'll be trailing you to see what happens. when do you start injections?

am over the wallowing again now. need to put my all into this last pre ivf cycle just in case a miracle could happen. also trying to start switching out carbs for protein in prep for the ivf.

Seb101 · 15/10/2014 21:32

It's private treatment and it was a planned family holiday; no emergency. I rang on day one of period, booked scan. Then the next day got phone call asking to cancel. Its private treatment, plus we paid an extra £400 for her to do our care/scans etc. I'm cross about it too. But the main thing is my treatment is going ahead this cycle! :)
Just did my first injection ( well husband did) and it was fine. Bit of a sting going in, but fine.
Finally its started. I'm full of excitement and positivity at the moment.

lildottie · 15/10/2014 21:34

seb make sure you get that £400 back!

TailFeathers · 15/10/2014 22:10

Seb101 I am really shocked by your consultant - that's so poor! Though it if makes you feel any better I have just been looked after by nurses and they are lovely, really good and helpful and competent. The consultant will do my extraction but that's about the only time we meet. And it's ok for me :) Really hope your nurses are as lovely as mine.

Allchat, thanks so much for giving us the view from the other side and good luck with your 2ww!! Fingers crossed for you and brilliant that you have got this far.

Rumple, hope all is going well for you! You have my sympathy re work. I am having to take unpaid leave. My boss knows I am doing IVF but the time when I've been off due to feeling pants has had to be unpaid. She's being nice about it though.

I am taking a full day off for extraction on the clinics advice, apparently the procedure is 3 hours by the time you're ready to leave, and the nurses said you can't really work after. Definitely taxi home I think!

So I am finally having my extraction on Friday. Which means I have just had my last Cetratide injection, then have to do Ovitrelle at 11.30 tonight, then no injections at all tomorrow (yay!!). Then at 11am on Friday it's "whip 'em out and pray" time...

Had a bad day at work roday, very tearful and feeling horrid.
Needles really scare me (as do blood tests) so it's all a bit wearing. But as you have all said for some people it is much worse and I am trying to focus on that and the fact that this phase is nearly done!

Good thoughts to you all ladies xxx

TailFeathers · 15/10/2014 22:14

A late discovery by the way was that you can get skin numbing cream over the counter at Boots. My clinic said it's fine to use during IVF so I've been putting it on 45 mins before injections. Can barely feel the needle at all! Makes a huge difference with the psychological barrier (though it sounds like none of you are as wimpy as me).

lildottie · 15/10/2014 22:17

tail how exciting your nearly there! gl for ec.

I am intruiged as to the buses/taxis after ec....are your DPS not going with you? my clinic require him there. Hmm they said he has to watch the camera showing what they are doing on the microscope and approve stuff while I'm out of it on sedation?!

TailFeathers · 15/10/2014 22:40

Ah yes, he will be present as he is needed for ummm his contribution (!) but he doesn't drive, so it's taxi home for me! He won't be in the room though, he has to wait outside til it's all over.

allchatnicknamesgone · 15/10/2014 23:06

My DH only turned up once it was all over and I'd come around. As long as someone comes to take you home. Oh and of course he had to do his thing in a pot! I could have totally drove myself back home though, all though you really not meant to do that. Forbidden.

I think I'm a big weird though, because I couldn't even stand him being in same room for transfer. Made me more nervous!

lildottie · 15/10/2014 23:17

lol, totally forgot they have to do their bit! I'm such a wally! must be my cold clouding my brain!

Smidge001 · 16/10/2014 02:58

Hello there. I'm on round 2 of IVF and thought I would share my experiences after reading most of this thread.

My first IVF was short protocol (puregon and cetrotide with ovidril the trigger) and this time I'm doing long protocol, using lucrin injections for the down regging, and start stimms (puregon again) tomorrow. They aim for day 5 blasto transfers.

My clinics give you a note for 2 days off work for egg collection, and I definitely needed them - first day I don't think you're allowed to do anything anyway coz of the impact of the anaesthesia, but second day, although I woke up feeling so much better, I actually found by mid morning I felt way worse, and defo couldn't have gone to work. I think (as someone else mentioned) a lot of it was actually being so swollen etc. anyway, by day 3 I was fine.
Egg transfer doesn't require time off except for the procedure itself, but I actually found the procedure more uncomfortable than EC! I think (a) coz no anaesthetic and my consultant reminded me of a mechanic with a tyre lever Wink and (b) again, as someone else has already mentioned, pressing down on a swollen belly and VERY full bladder was horrible. But to be fair, it was over in 5 mins, so nothing to worry about really!

Regarding side effects, I haven't found it too bad - but you must keep up the liquid intake. I'm interested to hear about increasing protein, and might try that this round. On the lucrin down regging I've not had any issues so far (think I've done 9 days to date) but when I called the nurse to say AF has arrived and confirm the start of puregon, she mentioned that headaches are very common particularly around AF time, when hormones drop. So now I'm madly drinking lots more water while imagining I do have the start of a massive headache (even though I'm sure it's psychosomatic!)

Lots of luck

Rumplestrumpet · 16/10/2014 08:38

Morning all,

Gosh, it's been a busy evening! Reminds me that I need to get our internet fixed at home...

Thanks for all the tips/experience Smidge that's really useful - though I'm sorry it didn't work for you first time. Really hoping the new protocol works better for you. It's so true what you say about things being psychosomatic - I was having no effects at all of the treatment, until yesterday - once I'd seen the big chunky follicles on the screen I started to feel so much more bloated and swollen.... DH is of course convinced I'm imagining it, and of course I probably am... Sorry but I had to chuckle at the image of the mechanic jacking up the tyre - I certainly hope the speculum doesn't make that clicking sound when he's jacking me open ... Confused

Interestingly our clinic hasn't said anything about drinking lots of water - in fact they haven't said much in the way of advice at all, except the alcohol, drugs, medicins, etc. I'm generally good about keeping hydrated but now the weather has cooled I should probably make more of an effort...

Tail - it's really crap that you have to take unpaid leave, but good that they are understanding and not making you feel bad about the time off. Sorry you had a teary day - we all get them! Don't give yourself a hard time about it. And we are all complete wimps about something - for you it's needles, which is perfectly reasonable. For others it's a fear of heights, or standing up for themselves when being put down, or not having the courage to go for the job they really want because they're afraid of rejection. We're all wimps in our own ways - in fact, being scared of needles is really quite sensible when you think about it! So give yourself a break and reward yourself for having done so well already. It's great that in just over 24 hours you'll be past the worst of the physical stuff - so exciting!

Ha ha Lildottie, I imagined you arriving at the clinic alone, Mr dottie chilling out on the sofa at home, getting a quick phonecall to dash into the clinic to provide a sample... ha ha.

So yes, DH will be coming to the EC and ET, but neither of us drives so it's either the bus or a taxi home. I don't know if he'll be in theatre or not - I think it might be optional, in which case I would really want him there holding my hand. I should ask at the next appointment. You're not wierd for not wanting him there allchat - I think you just have to do what makes you comfortable. Like childbirth - I know some women who just don't want their DH there at all. I think we need to get over worrying about it and just do what feels natural.

DH is not really looking forward to providing the sample though - it must be pretty hard to, er, perform on demand like that. There's a lot of pressure (like a whole operation theatre waiting!) so I hope he's ok... That said, he's had plenty of practice over the years, so I'm sure he'll manage!

Well done on the first injection Seb - it is a bit stingy, but really nothing as bad as I expected. Good that DH can do it for you (I have done it myself but really prefer when he does it). I agree that it may be worth challenging the clinic over the extra money you spent, but I wouldn't let it get in the way of your treatment - and it sounds like you have a really positive approach, which is the most important thing. I really believe that a positive attitude goes a long way on things like fertility, and you certainly don't want to be tense and angry whenever you're dealing with the clinic.

How's everyone else getting on? Really hope moomoo is doing well and growing some juicy follicles, and Leopard isn't being driven insane by the students...

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anroga · 16/10/2014 09:12

Hi Lildottie

Thanks for the message. Good to hear that someone else is on the same road as me!

I go on 11/11 for screening and all my meds plus being shown how to do the injections. I then start the pill on the 28/11 I think (need to check on the 11th) for two weeks. Then I go onto the injections for 2 weeks so should be starting them around the 12th of December. I know I will be definately be doing them over Xmas.

How about you? xxx

lildottie · 16/10/2014 09:32

I'll be starting pill around 16/11 and starting injections 28/12. haven't got my appt date for drugs/teaching to inject but was told it will be the week before Christmas. eek! looks like I'll be about 2weeks behind you Grin

anroga · 16/10/2014 10:21

Ok well I can keep you posted on how I am getting on!

I will know more about dates after my appointment on the 11/11 so will be in touch then, it will be so nice to follow each others journey, feels like you are not on your own :)

I feel a mixture of excitement when I think I might actually have a baby (!) after all this time and then nervous about the treatment and then worried that it won't work first time and then what on earth will I do next arrgghh my brain will implode!

So deep breath I am going to try and take it one stage at a time concentrating on my next appointment, then when I start the pill and so on and so on.

Its the only way I think you can cope without going bonkers!

xxx

Rumplestrumpet · 16/10/2014 11:31

I definitely agree with one step at a time approach - when I allow my mind to drift towards pregnancy, childbirth, raising babies.... etc etc ... I feel it's all too much! So I'm focused on this week and thinking a bit about egg collection next week. Full stop. Or at least trying my best!

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moomoo78 · 16/10/2014 15:17

Hi guys
I had no internet last night which was frustrating. Especially now I see all the news and whatnot lol

Well had my scan yesterday. All good and I'm really relieved. I have 12 follicles only small yet but that was to be expected because I was scanned earlier as extra because of increased risk of hyperstimulation. I have to go back on Saturday morning for another scan and ec is likely to be Monday or Tuesday. It's all seeming to go very fast. I'm quite overwhelmed!!

rumples 4 is good. It only takes one

Seb I am outraged on your behalf. Surely the consultant must know this is an emotional time. It's just downright rude to ask that of someone hmph!

Well done to those starting jabs. I hate em no one in my family can quite believe I've managed to do it lol

Hope you are all ok

Rumplestrumpet · 16/10/2014 16:03

Great news on the follicles Moo! You're right that it only takes one, but it's great to hear that you have so many brewing. I'm also due for another scan on Sat and EC at the start of next week - it's so exciting, isn't it?!

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lumen · 16/10/2014 16:39

Hi ladies, have read all your posts and would like to wish you all luck and bfps.

I am currently on my second cycle of IVF (first on was not successful in the summer) and I think my timings coincide with many of you, I have my scan on tues to check down regged ok and will start stimming on weds, EC due in w/c 3rd.

From my first cycle I found that I was quite out of it for most of EC day, when I got home I slept for most of the day with dh waking me up every 4 hours for paracetamol, a drink and something to eat Smile

I was sore the day after too do would not have wanted to be on work. I took a weeks sick leave last time to cover EC and ET as it is all so unknown. I ended up with a day 3 trf which is very common so don't be upset if your embies don't make it to blast/day 5.

Of anyone has any questions I am happy to try and answer them. After 3 yrs ttc and the past 9 months being immersed in the IVF world I have read quite a lot Wink

moomoo78 · 16/10/2014 21:42

Oh rumples it is exciting. I'm really trying to stay cool headed but at times I'm failing miserably lol. It seems you and I are matching each other to the day cycle wise!How nice to be able to share experiences, news, anxieties etc each time. Really good luck for Saturday fingers, toes,eyes and even legs crossed now for everyone. Time did seem to be dragging but I tell you what ladies, it doesn't half speed up at the end! I know what you mean about feeling swollen and bloated I'm the same I said to the nurse yesterday that I felt like I was stowing away a couple of grapefuits haha but like you now I know what's there I think I'm feeling it more. Good thing is still no side effects to speak of but I am a bit worn out and my brain has gone to mush but I think that's more to do with what we are doing than the drugs tbh and in fairness my memory is terrible anyway hahaha

It is horsework working around all the appointments. I'm quite lucky that I can be a little flexible with my hours but I am taking the two weeks whilst waiting (if we get that far) off, just so I can relax. I manage a residential home which whilst it's fab and I love everyone dearly it can be stressful at times so trying to avoid as much stress as I can and my deputy is wonderful so can trust her to run a good ship whilst I'm away, I'd hate to resent it if it doesn't work because I think I might even though rational and logical thinking tells you it wouldn't be that lol.

Here's a couple of laughs for you. I text the. owner of the home to tell him how I had got on at my scan (he's fab and really understanding) he text me back saying 'excellent news, good egg laying skills' with a picture of a chicken!! Tickled me did that hahaha. Second thing that has tickled me today was my text to dh this morning. Today is approx 5 days from egg collection and him needing to make his deposit, all the bumf I've had from the hospital says he should have swimmers 3-5 days in the making, cue me texting him this morning saying 'good morning love, not sure how to say this but you need to dump your load today so you have a fresh batch for next week, here's some cleavage hahahahaha' with a cheeky boob shot attached Shock I don't do things like that lol anyway it tickled me and him so at least we laughed, tis a shame we weren't in the house at the same time today so he had to manage alone hahahaha Wink

Rumplestrumpet · 17/10/2014 07:56

Haaaaaa! Love that Moo, nearly splurted my tea everywhere reading that! Not too often we encourage our menfolk to have a little "alone time", so it makes a change. And I'm sure he appreciated the support material Wink. I'm not like that at all either - I was genuinely [shocked] to discover that sexting (awful word!) has become standard practice for teenagers (I mean seriously, what girl ACTUALLY wants to receive a picture of a spotty teenage boys fiddly bits?!).... But I've promised to provide DH with some "inspiration" for his sample next week... We have to make fun out of this process where we can, right?! I think you've done well to book the time off work - I had to use up all my leave earlier in the year due to DH's work schedule, which is a real pain, so I can only take off the bare minimum for next week. But so far work seem to be ok about it, so hopefully it won't cause too many problems. And I don't think you'll ever regret taking the time off - if anything, you'll know you did absolutely everything you could, so what ever happens I think that will be reassuring. Finger's crossed for tomorrow's scan...

Welcome Lumen and thanks for the tips - it's so great having the mix of first timers like me and "wise words" from you and Smidge with a bit more experience. I'm really sorry to hear it didn't work first time, but sounds like you have a really supportive DH to get you through it. Not sure what a trf is, but you're right that we just assume the eggs will fertilise and grow healthily into embryos/ blasts. The only question I have is one you can't answer - Will It Work?! I just have to keep hoping, without getting my hopes up - if anyone has actually managed to work out the trick for this, please let me know!!

Tail - you must be on your way to the clinic for your egg collection today - To paraphrase Moo's colleague, I hope you do some top quality free range organic eggs laying! Fingers crossed it won't be too difficult, and you'll be home relaxing on the sofa before you know it.

Leopard - how are you getting on with the stimms? Hope the itchy marks aren't causing too much bother and you're still in a positive mindset.

Happy friday to you all !

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Rumplestrumpet · 17/10/2014 07:57

Meant to ask after Seb - how are you finding the injections? Hope all's well

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anroga · 17/10/2014 13:04

Hi Girls

I have just rung the clinic to get the results of my AMH, the receptionist said she needs to get the nurse to call me back.

I am now going out of my mind with worry that it is low...please someone tell me this is common practice for the nurse to call you back rather then the receptionist just say your results are fine?? x