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Woman gives birth on plane - Warning grim

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GothAnneGeddes · 08/07/2010 20:19

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/7879061/Indian-mum-tries-to-flush-newborn-down- plane-toilet.html

A woman gave birth in a plane toilet and tried to dispose of the baby in the toilet. The baby is currently in critical condition and the mother has been arrested.

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borderslass · 08/07/2010 21:37

here

jesuswhatnext · 08/07/2010 22:21

porr poor woman - how dreadful to be so desperate as to do that.

Ewe · 08/07/2010 22:24

That is horrible and terribly sad.

wannaBe · 08/07/2010 22:24

bloody hell.

Poor baby. I'll reserve judgement on the woman.

secunda · 08/07/2010 22:26

It said she was a medical student who was going home after being in Britain for a bit. I would imagine she would have been majorly in the shit if she had turned up at home pregnant

MoonUnitAlpha · 08/07/2010 22:27

How could she have given birth with no one noticing?

wannaBe · 08/07/2010 22:29

so what, flush it down the toilet of an aeroplane while still alive?

Presumably she can't have known she was going to give birth on the plane - what if she hadn't?

Hope the baby survives.

deleting · 08/07/2010 22:30

whatever, it takes a certain type of person to try and jam a baby down the toilet no matter what was in store. Leave it under the seat perhaps if you must? I'm finding it hard to feel sorry for her.

secunda · 08/07/2010 22:32

I've never been forced to carry a child I didn't want so I don't know how one would react in that situation. No one is exactly at their most lucid during/just after childbirth. I feel sorry for her

autodidact · 08/07/2010 22:32

Horrible.

wannaBe · 08/07/2010 22:33

quite.

It's one thing to abandon a baby out of desparation, quite another to try and shove its still living body down a toilet where it will be ejected at 30000 feet.

No sympathy for her at all.

HerBeatitude · 08/07/2010 22:39

I didn't think they let you on planes when you were that pregnannt

SolidGoldBrass · 08/07/2010 22:39

Oh FFS there is going to be a lot more going on here than has been revealed so far, so put the fucking pitchforks down.
The woman may have been severely mentally ill for one thing. Or in absolute fear of her life. Or, if the baby was small/premature and she hadn't known she was PG she might have thought it was dead.

Mind you given that there's no flight number, no name and minimal details, this might just be a misogynistic urban myth from beginning to end anyway.

MoonUnitAlpha · 08/07/2010 22:44

The whole thing does sound very unlikely. No one noticed she was heavily pregnant, and then she delivered her first baby quickly and silently in a plane toilet? And then no one heard the baby cry and no one wanted to use the toilet again for the rest of the flight? The baby wasn't discovered til after the flight landed and everyone disembarked.

toccatanfudge · 08/07/2010 22:48

hmmm well a few other reports say that she gave birth to it in the toilet and doesn't say she tried to "flush" it. The hole in plane toilets are pretty small are they not?

Given that there seems to be little concrete reporting on this is it not conceivable that she has given birth prematurely to a baby, in the toilet, and the child has become stuck?

In a country where out of marriage sex/living together is viewed so dimly she was hardly going to rush out of the bathroom and say "help my baby is stuck"? It was only this year that India ruled that live-in relationships between adult couples are not a crime.

I don't know - the report says "allegedly" tried to flush it, perhaps she did do that in the hopes that it would never be discovered and she wouldn't be facing up to 7yr in prison, or perhaps she gave birth and fled?

toccatanfudge · 08/07/2010 22:51

wannabe - abandoning the baby could have (and could still I guess since she and the baby were discoered) resulted in 7yrs in prison for her.

SGB this report does give the flight number, although says abandoned the baby rather than trying to flush it down the toilet...which I would have thought would have been a came of attempted murder rather than abandonment?

deleting · 08/07/2010 23:04

If she was in fear of her life though surely it would have been better to not get on the plane in the first place. Obviously she wouldn't have known she was going to give birth on the plane, so what was the original plan I wonder? Anyway, probably true there's more to it.

SolidGoldBrass · 08/07/2010 23:48

Toccata: Interesting what a nasty spin the Telegraph report puts on it, as compared to the Indian Times one which appears to have more actual information - the woman 'abandoned' the baby rather than trying to flush it down the toilet and both she and the baby are now in hospital.

nooka · 09/07/2010 04:23

I've looked at a few other Indian news reports and they all said that the baby had been abandoned with no suggestion that the mother had tried to harm it. Indeed one of them suggested that she had fed it prior to leaving it. This Indian report said that the baby's condition was normal.

www.indianexpress.com/news/newborn-found-in-aircraft-toilet/643699/

I think the Telegraph and DM chose to spin this story (or the person who sold it to them did so) none of the Indian papers said anything about sawing the baby out of the loo. They did say that the mother appeared distressed and kept rushing to the loo during the flight. I'm guessing she didn't look pregnant.

CoteDAzur · 10/07/2010 09:49

That article you linked to says: "The baby had not been fed for long"

Besides, how exactly was she to feed him, given that her milk is not likely to have come through in the duration of the flight? Do you think she came prepared with formula and a bottle, in case she gave birth on the plane?

ISNTitFUNtoBEinDISGUISE · 10/07/2010 10:06

I fed both of my babies after they were born. colustrum is still food, even if it's not full on milk and there isn't much of it.

CoteDAzur · 10/07/2010 10:10

Yes, they suck. But within an hour of two of the birth, does anything come out?

Babies don't need to be fed anything in the hours after the birth. They will suck for comfort, not for hunger.

BertieBotts · 10/07/2010 10:11

"The baby had not been fed for long" is funny wording, I wonder if it's a bad translation.

She could definitely have breastfed the baby, colostrum is plenty for a newborn.

toccatanfudge · 10/07/2010 10:12

Cote - it took 4 days for my milk to come in with DS1........are you therefore saying he wasn't fed for 4 days??????

BertieBotts · 10/07/2010 10:13

You produce colostrum while pregnant, I leaked it from about 24 weeks IIRC - you are right that they don't need feeding when first born (as have been recieving nutrients from the placenta) but it's incorrect to say they get nothing.