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Kercher Killer Rudy Guede has sentence reduced

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Portofino · 22/12/2009 18:37

Link here

During the very long, recent thread about the AK/RS verdicts, I expressed the hope that all the misleading information did not have a beneficial effect on the one person who was categorically proven to have been there. It looks like my fears have come true!

Whatever the situation with the other 2, RG is firmly linked to the crime with solid forensic evidence and this must be terrible for Meredith's parents.

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DuelingFanjo · 22/12/2009 18:40

Utterly shocked. Really I am.

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Portofino · 22/12/2009 18:42

The bloody thing is truly farcical!

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DuelingFanjo · 22/12/2009 18:48

It makes no sense at all unless the jury in the Knox/Sollecito trial believe that Knox and Sollecito were somehow ringleaders in the attack and that Guede didn't actively take part in the murder. Which makes me think they (who are they infact? the guede jury, the Knox/Sollecito jury, the appeal judge?) believe that the sexual contact he had with her was somehow consentual or that Guede was somehow talked into it!?

It's all utterly ridiculous.

DuelingFanjo · 22/12/2009 18:58

Apparently Guede's lawyer said ""Rudy Guede is the victim of a media lynching''in process'' contaminated by a very strong pressure from the media''

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Portofino · 22/12/2009 19:41

Guede is!!! God you could laugh if it wasn't so tragic!

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TotallyUnheardOf · 22/12/2009 21:12

OK. Have been struggling to understand this, but La Stampa explains it quite well.

What has actually happened is that the sentence for all three murderers has been set at the same amount - 24 years.

Guede's sentence has now been reduced by a third because he chose the fast-track trial.

Sollecito's sentence was increased by a year because of additional crimes (doesn't say what... drugs maybe, or something else related to the murder???)

Knox's sentence was increased by two years one for the same reason as Sollecito's and one for falsely implicating Patrick Lumumba.

Still a bit but that makes more sense than that he is suddenly found to be less guilty because Knox and Sollecito have been convicted.

fishie · 22/12/2009 21:20

but that is what generally happens when pleading guilty, otherwise why would anyone do it? it saves grief, money and gets them a shorter sentence, which would be adjusted in this case because of what the others got. their appeal will probably result in lesser sentence.

DuelingFanjo · 22/12/2009 21:29

not sure I understand. None of them pled guilty did they?

As part of this appeal, which started in November and isn't anything to do with the recent sentencing of Knox and Sollecito, Guede's lawyers wanted him aquitted.

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Portofino · 22/12/2009 21:37

Surely a "fast track" trial could only work if you plead guilty. Otherwise what is the point? He either pled guilty and that is the end of it, or he didn't....

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dittany · 22/12/2009 21:44

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Portofino · 22/12/2009 21:52

dittany, for once on this subject, I agree with you! Though it pains me to say it, sounds like you believe he was hiding in the toilet......

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dittany · 22/12/2009 21:54

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Portofino · 22/12/2009 21:59

Because you use the words "involved in a murder" rather than "killed".

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dittany · 22/12/2009 22:03

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Portofino · 22/12/2009 22:11

Ok Amanda did that. And the evidence she did is .....where?

We did this already 100 times. My point is that Rudy has just got a much lesser sentence, when the forensic evidence puts him clearly there.

Discount the other 2 entirely. Is that fair? Unless he "just" raped her but didn't kill her?

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Portofino · 22/12/2009 22:14

And honestly dittany, I do not have an agenda here.

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NotanOtter · 22/12/2009 22:16

the only court case i have been involved with the police told me in no uncertain terms that if the accused pleaded guilty the judge etc would be more lenient

thats what rudy g did

dittany · 22/12/2009 22:18

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LouMacca · 22/12/2009 22:19

I have just seen this on the news and am totally shocked.

I just don't understand. He has been found guilty of murder, why oh why has his sentence been halved??

I cannot imagine how Merediths family must feel. My heart goes out to them, especiallly at this time of year when they are facing another christmas and new year without their daughter.

dittany · 22/12/2009 22:21

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paisleyleaf · 22/12/2009 22:21

I had wondered when he chose to be tried separately from the other 2 that they were more active in the murder, and he was worried they would try and pin more of it on him than he was responsible for, so wanted to distance from them a bit.

ilovemydogandmrobama · 22/12/2009 22:22

Does fast track mean proceed directly to sentencing avoiding the need for a trial?

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Portofino · 22/12/2009 22:39

Hang on a minute! Sorry dittany I did not mean to cause you upset!

I started the thread to register my disgust that Guede's sentence was reduced!

I find that the evidence puts him firmly at the crime scene, he ran away afterwards and in my opinion after reviewing much of the evidence (albeit online) is guilty! He should therefore receive suitable punishment.

My comments were based on the fact that you said that Guede was "involved" in a murder. He was the only person that was 100% proven to be in that room. So he was either in that room, or he was hiding in the toilet, as he said. Which do you believe? Maybe I have been unfair to summise.....

There is little forensic evidence, and MUCH hearsay and media gossip about the other 2 and their involvement.

Personally, I don't believe there is sufficient evidence to convict the other 2. I am not saying and never did, that they are 100% not guilty, just that there is evidence to convict RG, but not AK/RS. I don't buy the police version of events at all. I want to be convinced otherwise.

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dittany · 22/12/2009 23:02

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pofarced · 22/12/2009 23:03

I think it is farcical and an insult to Meredith's family that his sentence has been so heavily reduced, for no other reason than he pleaded guilty [though maintaining his innocence ]