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the man who accused Micheal Jackson.....

96 replies

myermay · 18/11/2009 10:15

of molesting his son has killed himself 5 mths after his death. It is in the paper today.

Seems strange to me, maybe greed and guilt got the better of him?? sorry can't do a link!

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mamadiva · 18/11/2009 12:00

Yup... you don't want to look but you have too...

myermay · 18/11/2009 14:02

Goodness just got back from work to this.

AvriH, i too am sorry to hear about your friend, but please understand by no means was i suggesting that everyone who takes their own life is "greedy and guilty". My husbands bf took his own life and so did someone in my family, so i am not ignorant nor stupid. Totally unnecessary to be so aggressive towards me.

Perhaps i did not word it properly, but i was merely saying that because of the huge controversy surrounding his death, it seems odd that this should happen so soon after MJ's death. Yes it's very sad, but i was not being nasty or "shit stirring" as another poster put. I just wanted to discuss it and find out what other people opionions on it were. No need for the personal insults and i apologise if you mistook how it was intended.

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edam · 18/11/2009 22:57

Sorry, but I don't see how you can possibly argue that "maybe greed and guilt got the better of him??" was anything other than nasty, at best, especially in the context of his suicide.

thesunshinesbrightly · 19/11/2009 01:09

The dad had plastic surgey too look Michael Jackson, would you want too look like a man who abused your son?

thesunshinesbrightly · 19/11/2009 01:14

Some of you obviously know very little of Michael, he was not a child molester, the dad was greedy and wanted too take Michael for everything he had, he was a very shallow greedy man!! i do not feel sorry for his family or Jordy! LOOK AT THE FACTS, THE WHOLE FAMILY WERE LIERS.

dittany · 19/11/2009 01:49

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perfectstorm · 19/11/2009 01:53

There's also the little point that MJ's lawyers agreed to the payoff after it came out that JC could describe in accurate and minute detail the pattern his skin disease made on his penis. Erect AND flaccid.

Tell me, what innocent explanation have you for this?

thesunshinesbrightly · 19/11/2009 10:51

If your son had been molestered would you take money of a man who abused your son? because i know i would'nt, would you want too look like a man who abused your son? no, would you use a drug too implant things in your child's mind? would you go too a solicter before the police? it was not accurate detail of his penis, i suggest you read the facts, Mr Jackson was not circumsised, or have the same marks, i could go on all day about the facts etc... the kid is a lier and so is his dad, i have no sympthy,you lot need too stop listening too the media, and get your own minds.

thesunshinesbrightly · 19/11/2009 10:55

It was Michael Jackson that did not want too pay them off as he had done nothing wrong but his insurance company and laywer's persuded him too do so. really, i get really fed up with shallow people like you, let's hope you don't get accused of something you didn't do and have your life ruined!

thesunshinesbrightly · 19/11/2009 10:56

$ 20 million dollars is also wrong! the fools that listen too the papers.

thesunshinesbrightly · 19/11/2009 11:03

I'm glad Michael is resting in peace now he was too good for this world,he loved people of all races and ages and gave millions too charity, built his own charity, flew his people around the world too save a little girl among other things.... and well, Jordy's dad has finally met his maker.

perfectstorm · 19/11/2009 13:18

He had plastic surgery to escape the mad deluded freaks who worship MJ and wanted to kill him. How that makes it "to look like MJ" I cannot fathom.

Your info comes directly from the Jackson camp, but you think that makes it more reliable than the media? Okay!

And I wouldn't drop the charges, but damn straight I'd sue to get my son a trust fund to help him get the best care and life possible, if someone had the money and had done that to him. In addition if his father did exploit him, how does that mean Jackson did not?

AvrilH · 19/11/2009 14:51

The ghouls are back

thesunshinesbrightly · 19/11/2009 15:16

I would argue the point but too be honest i am sick of talking too losers, so i will bid you good day and say my prayers for you too get accused of something you didnt do and hope it wrecks your life.

edam · 19/11/2009 16:06

that's nice, thesunshine. How very reasonable of you.

No wonder everyone is convinced of Jackson's innocence, with arguments like that.

southeastastra · 19/11/2009 16:06

fgs can you not even spell his name correctly?

thesunshinesbrightly · 19/11/2009 17:09

Really edam, you are not worth my time, i do not care what you think get's too a point with haters where you really have too ignore them and how shallow they are.

and south if you are talking too me, i think you will find his name is spelt Michael not Micheal

edam · 19/11/2009 18:17

Why are you bothering to post then? Shut the door on your way out, there's a love.

Btw, you seem to be a little confused about 'to' and 'too' in two posts now. Might be worth looking that one up if you want to give the impression that you are a sensible person with an intelligent point of view.

Although you'd have to change the content of your posts as well. And pay a bit more attention to what other people have actually said - no idea why you are calling me a 'hater'.

2shoes · 19/11/2009 18:24

wow what an odd thread

Meglet · 19/11/2009 18:25

Sunshine - too and to, please read the dictionary.

perfectstorm · 19/11/2009 20:19

Avril, I'm genuinely sorry that anyone is dead, and that any young person is needlessly without a father. However that covers Jordy Chandler as well as the Jackson children. Gloating over anyone's death is indeed ghoulish, which is precisely what sunshine is doing - and if she is who I think she is, she started a thread declaring that nobody had a right to judge him because our husbands could be paedophiles as well. What a stirring defence.

I totally fail to see how loving a complete stranger's music provides you with an intimate and inside knowledge of their character. Yet it means you're gloating over someone's suicide? Fgs, this is not a soap opera.

thesunshinesbrightly · 20/11/2009 00:50

Excuse me i did not start that thread you are wrong!! so i will be thank full if you stop posting rubbish about me!!

I am not gloating at all but i am not going too hide that i am not sad, jordy got a order out on his dad for attacking him, such a loveable father was he!

thesunshinesbrightly · 20/11/2009 00:50

Aww shame Meglet my oooooo's not working good enough for you

thesunshinesbrightly · 20/11/2009 00:57

Perfectstorm, that is exactly how rumours start and you are no better! proves my point about shallow people.

perfectstorm · 20/11/2009 02:20

thesun, I asked if it was you, you said not. That is not "how rumours start." You are present to refute the question and quell any such 'rumours' (not that I imagine many people will read this, or care if they do). The confusion on my part arose because that poster misspelt his name exactly as you do, and such a mistake is rather odd in fervent fans of his (and such fervent fans are also rare on Mumsnet). I'm sure you can see how that would be confusing, no?

I'm afraid you are actually not helping your hero at all. You're coming across as hysterical and obsessive, though perhaps that's only so on this subject and you're very reasonable and decent on others. I'm not in a position to know. But truly, can't you see that caring this much about a total and utter stranger, based solely on fan info carefully designed to feed your fixation and part you from as much cash as possible, is inherently a shallow proccupation? The intense emotions you seem to feel about the man are based on nothing of any real depth. It is ersatz emotion. You didn't know him and he didn't know you. That's the reality.

You've always lost an argument if you have to hurl personal comments about and put words into the other party's mouth, btw. Repeat posting as you do, in flurries, doesn't really help either. You keep saying things like "that proves my point!" which might be easier if you'd actually made any I can discern. Mostly you just jump about from insulting the Chandlers to insulting posters here, flinging non sequiteurs about Jackson's fabulousness in for ballast, which doesn't really further debate.

Someone doesn't have to be a nice man for a thread gloating about his death to be vile. That goes both ways. It isn't pleasant for anyone to die IMO, when they aren't axe murderers, and they leave children behind them. There are still very grave and unanswered questions about Jackson's interest in young boys, and the character of the Chandler father isn't relevant there - in fact often abuse victims are selected precisely because they come from troubled and difficult families, and are therefore vulnerable. You can certainly also hold strong feelings about accepting cash instead of seeing someone go to trial, when allowing them to evade such a trial could directly cause another child to be placed in danger, and under US law a civil (money) trial and a criminal (jail/probation) trial can happen independently, on the same case and the same facts. But that isn't the point. Nobody should gloat about ANYONE'S death, and to deny you have done so is pointless, given the thread is here and readable. You did. The hypocrisy is therefore irritating, yes.