Go Janice Go Janice - feminist campaign....

[CNyle]

in todays Times2

It's like all the slebs lining up to join the Pussycat Dolls on stage before the PCD became a 'singing' group.
Yes dancing in your underwear. Very Good.

It's okay as pop feminist stuff goes. Articles like this come along every six months or so. I've been collecting them since 2004. Nothing ever comes of them unfortunately

I really hate 10 yrs Younger etc, just perpetuating the idea that we shd only care what women look like not what they think/ do, so that women only exist in relation to what society thinks of them. Proper objectification. Yuck.

And similarly it REALLY winds me up that the broadsheets (Telegraph I'm looking at you here) put pix of pretty blonde twins celebrating 14 A* at A level on the front page but of course that's not like the tabs featuring Jordan, oh no. Grr.

Something else I really hate-the science programme called 'Brainiacs'- nerdish guy presenters doing brainy stuff and experiments and then scantiliy clad ladies occasionally getting involved amidst much girlish giggling and numerous dumb blonde stereotypes-grrr!

Perhaps it might be fun if men arrived at work naked from the waist down. We should have The Daily Erection in the papers next to the knockers. After all, how DO men compare each other? Airbrushed, of course, or perhaps all airbrushing should be banned. So far, they only do that sort of thing for gay mags. Open yer trousers, big boys! Aren't erections part of life, the same as pointed nipples?

I think this country is very sexist.

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And its target audience seems to be 10 year old lads too

Get them out of their pants ho ho

So is it pretty blondes that you object to per se McFly?

After all, how DO men compare each other?

On saleries mostly, cars, houses, partners...

No LadyM, it's a couple of things:

1. Hypocrisy - the paper is sticking the girls on the front cover for exactly the same reasons as the tabloids feature glamour models, namely eye candy, but because they're "posh totty" that's ok

2. Yes they have also achieved their A Levels which is obviously good but that's not really the reason they are on the front page - if it were, then a spotty lad with 14 A* would be just as likely to be there, which ain't the case.

See also the first really hot day of the year (girls sunbathing on the park) and London Fashion Week as an excuse to get some tits in a broadsheet courtesy of a see through top / jacket with nowt on underneath.

I'm not thinking of any particular RL twins btw, just plucked that example out of the air.

cocolepew at your DD - I'm going to teach mine to say that too!

People like looking at beautiful things - both men and women. I don't want to see a spotty lad. I see plenty of them on the school run!

You cannot serioulsy be saying that any picks of beautiful women's faces are the same as having Jordan's knockers shoved in your face. IYSWIM.

pics

What she says in the article is perfectly true - but it is not just feminism. The most appalling behaviour in other aspects of life (eg the soft porn ads for the lapdancing club opposite the 6th form college etc) passes because nobody criticises it. Who was the last person to make a serious effort against porn? Mary Whitehouse - and look how the whole liberal establishment, including lots of women, ridiculed her.

this is not just a feminist issue. But I doubt that even this journo would have the courage to stand the ridicule she'd get if she said that Mary Whitehouse may have had a point.

Saying that a porn aesthetic, or the glamorising of porn, can in many situations be damaging is now equivalent to saying you agree with Andrea Dworkin and all men are rapists. It is really depressing. Good on Janice for having a go with this. I dislike the 'isn't equal pay more important?' approach where you are only allowed to get annoyed about the most huge and dramatic things. There's no either/or. I am happy to get annoyed about many things that do women down

Well I find it ironic that this esay is so popular as she starts her piece criticising "feminism?s silence over the past decade" and blaming it for ushering "in a grim, sexualised culture" when this essay by Clive James Veil of Silence over Murder got almost nothing but criticism, and for a much greater, more deadly consequence. Double standards?