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Man who kept woman in boot of car for 10 days........

55 replies

HolyGuacamole · 21/07/2009 14:01

......gets 8 years minimum!

[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6721690.ece Here]]

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dittany · 22/07/2009 12:26

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Paolosgirl · 22/07/2009 12:28

Yes, FAQ - which is why the immigration service needs to be better resourced. It will takes years simply to find and clear the backlog of illegal immigrants based on the resources that have at the moment - and that's before they even start dealing with the ones coming in now and in the future.

Now, I'm not saying for a moment that all illegal immigrants will go on and commit crime, but we do know that if you are under the radar so to speak, it becomes very hard for the police to track you and it becomes easier to commit crime.

Anyway, if anyone sees me on here again tell me to hop it, because I'm supposed to be working from home today! The pull of MN...

HeadFairy · 22/07/2009 12:32

Same here dittany. If you listen to her interview she says that at one point it was really quiet and she realised it was Christmas day. So she'd been in a car for 9 days by that point. She was dehydrated and exhausted. While we were tucking in to our turkey she was locked in a boot, all alone, for yet another 24 hours. I think the fact she's come out of it with her sanity intact, never mind her dignity is incredible.

CrushWithEyeliner · 22/07/2009 12:36

She is very brave and strong Woman - saw the interview and saw she wished no malice to him.

Did he just eventually open the boot and let her out? I mean it just beggars belief the she survived

FAQtothefuture · 22/07/2009 12:38

Paolo - I honestly believe that no matter how much money is thrown at tackling illegal immigrants the problem will always remain.

Short of playing "big brother" on anyone who enters the UK to ensure that they don't outstay their visa what else can be done to ensure that people board the plane home when it runs out.

I don't think any country in the world as sussed this one out - even ones with stricter immigration rules than our own.

Dittany - I agree

HeadFairy · 22/07/2009 12:39

No the police were called after someone heard her on Boxing day. She'd finally managed to get the gag off and was able to scream, until then she'd been kicking the boot but obviously it was her screams that alerted someone.

Mybox · 22/07/2009 12:42

Why is he only being sent back after a cushy time in prison - send him back now. Any people given the right to stay should be deported for breaking the law.

FAQtothefuture · 22/07/2009 12:52

Mybox - I think he should serve his time here. I am totally against this "they've committed a crime in X country so send them back to their own to face prison".

He didn't have the right to stay either.

Mybox · 22/07/2009 13:01

faq - I don't know why tax payers should pay for criminals when they could be deported. If he's not here legally he should be sent back. Why are you against this?

HeadFairy · 22/07/2009 13:03

Because he committed a crime here. So he pays the price here.

SetSquare · 22/07/2009 13:03

why should he not go home?

kathyis6incheshigh · 22/07/2009 13:04

When I read the article I was a bit surprised that it took them so long to find her. They noticed her car was missing and that she'd left a packed lunch by the door - wouldn't that trigger a hunt for the car? And it was in a station car park so not that hard to find surely?

FAQtothefuture · 22/07/2009 13:05

he's going home as soon as he's released.

I feel the same way about British people who commit crimes abroad and then expect to come home to serve their sentence in a British sentence. - ermm no - you pay the price where you commit the crime.

HeadFairy · 22/07/2009 13:05

AS I said, because he committed a crime here, he pays the price here.

If, for example you were caught smuggling drugs in to Thailand but didn't fancy doing the time in the Bangkok Hilton that's just tough luck, you pay the price for any crime in the country in which you committed that crime.

Paolosgirl · 22/07/2009 13:06

Mmmm. British jail, South African jail....now that's a hard choice, isn't it? I bet he's thanking his lucky stars.

kathyis6incheshigh · 22/07/2009 13:06

Could you guarantee he would serve the sentence in his home country if they sent him home though? Presumably no country wants to bear the cost of keeping people in jail, so isn't there a risk they'd let him out (even) earlier than we would?

Mintyy · 22/07/2009 13:06

She gave an incredible interview to Victoria Derbyshire this morning. I am full of admiration for her. She was so brave - but she did think she was going to die. How awful. What he did to her was a form of torture. Poor poor woman.

HeadFairy · 22/07/2009 13:07

I'm sure that's true too Kathy, why should tax payers in a much poorer country bear the brunt of our justice system. Even if he is a national of that country, I can't imagine he's a tax payer there, contributing to society etc, so he's a burden to them too.

Mybox · 22/07/2009 13:08

Prisons in some countries are not like those in the UK - I can understand why a uk national would want to be in a uk prison in this case - but send back the criminals (especially if here illegally) to their squalid prisons back where they came from.

FAQtothefuture · 22/07/2009 13:09

kathy - they were searching for the car - it was traffic police (I believe) who spotted the car on boxing day. Yes in a train station - but 20 miles away from her home.

I don't know Aidrie train station - but I know our local one a car could easily be left parked in the corner and not really be "noticed" iykwim.

HeadFairy · 22/07/2009 13:10

But you can't have one rule for UK citizens and another rule for everyone else in the world can you? That's monumentally unfair.

FAQtothefuture · 22/07/2009 13:11

I don't care if they don't "want" to serve their time in a jail in a foreign country - if they didn't want to serve time there they shouldn't have committed the crime.

SetSquare · 22/07/2009 13:11

there already are diffo rules for diffo natioanlities say for speeding

HeadFairy · 22/07/2009 13:14

Well speeding isn't quite in the same league as kidnapping someone and putting them in the boot of a car for 10 days. You're never going to get a prison sentence for speeding unless you're a repeat offender or the speeding is spectacularly high.

Mybox · 22/07/2009 13:14

setsquare - didn't know that. How are things different?