Margaret Thatcher's in hospital,Is this the beginning of the end? How will you mark the day? Black arm band or party 7.

[Cowwomanmoo]

After looking at the news about Mr T I found my self on wikiquote.

Classic:

In an interview with George Negus for the Australian TV program 60 minutes, the following exchange occurred:
Negus: Why do people stop us in the street almost and tell us that Margaret Thatcher isn't just inflexible, she's not just single-minded, on occasions she't plain pig-headed and won't be told by anybody?
Thatcher: Would you tell me who has stopped you in the street and said that?
Negus: Ordinary Britons...
Thatcher: Where?
Negus: In conversation, in pubs...
Thatcher (interrupting): I thought you'd just come from Belize
Negus: Oh this is not the first time we've been here.
Thatcher: Will you well me who, and where and when.
Negus: Ordinary Britons in restaurants and cabs
Thatcher: How many?
Negus: ...in cabs
Thatcher: How many?
Negus:I would say at least one in two
Thatcher:Why won't you tell me their names and who they are?

I really like Carol Thatcher!!

I will get my coat.....

well i don't like the nignog stuff, but i will admit that she came across like a decent enough stick on IACGMEOOH. but she's peculiar, and has struggled to make a life for herself. and her brother is very dodgy.

plus this whole expenses thing is thatch's fault, too.

She made her bed and had the conviction to lie in it, she made mistakes but took no shit.

I think anyone who rejoices in the face an old lady is sick is a sad and fucked up person, she is not a child killer FFS she did the best she could with what she had, end of

Right, so there were several hundred men fit to serve as ministers in Maggie's governments but every single woman politician was inferior to all of them? Do you really think that is at all plausible? Bear in mind we are talking of male politicians of the calibre of, ooh, I dunno, John Major/John Nott/Leon Brittan...

Kimi, you are tilting at windmills. Don't think one person on this thread has said, yippee, I really enjoy seeing an old lady getting ill. Many people have given reasons for objecting to Thatch and her disastrous legacies.

Well said Kimi

When you compare her to the bag of shites we have today ....

and how can claiming for your moat to be cleaned her fault??

i really hate it when people post 'end of'.

she was an evil witch who made 'there is no such thing as society' a hideous truth and i will not mourn her. stop trying to hijack/stop the conversation by pretending that people are wishing her dead. i've just read the thread, hardly anyone has indicated any such thing.

ah, since you ask...

she didn't want the bad publicity of putting MP's wages up, so she expanded the expenses system and let it be known that MPs were to claim their extra monies on that. so the man who would have paid for his moat to be cleaned with his wages instead paid for it using his expenses.

thangyoouverymuch.

I am a miners daughter ... what do you think!

do you think? i really don't think she does deserve credit for that, tbh. i could see your point if she'd broken it and then not destroyed the nation's values etc.

Edwina Currie.

Nice for you and your family flappy, so Maggie did you lots of favours eh.
I lived in a village where during the miners strike the only person who was working was my mother (as a junior doctor, doing 70+ hours a week) I was the only sitting in the dinning hall at lunch time in our village primary school, as all the other 100 pupils were eating lunch in the village soup kitchen. A bit lonely. The pit eventually closed even though it had the largest untapped seam of coal in the UK and it then took 18 years for the village to have over 45% employment again.

I have to agree; that this thread I started is a callous and is deeply unpleasant. I apologise to those who this offended. I would never wish for her death, as it would be a waste of energy, death it is an inevitable of life.
Rest assured all those left, right and ?cant be seen from the stranger gallery? I don?t think neither the devil nor god is in a hurry for her particular presents. As is proved by her rude longevity.
I love watching politics, its is the circular ways of it, Oh the ironies.
Quite right that GB is an ineffectual leader, unable to do his job.
In this game you have sales men or tekys, GB was the taky. I seen him speak in the house of commons, he was blown out of the water by W Hague, labour were left with there attack dog Prescott, Prescott good was very good value. GB is not a leader of men/woman.
I enjoy boxing as well.

The need to do what they do should make you suspicious of them in the first place

I put down my callousness and heartlessness of this thread to growing up in a war zone directly attributed to her policies. The illegal imprisonments, the deaths in the family.
I met my first MP at a family funeral, I was about 13, think it was Frances Pim (Tory).
She responsible for a lot.

Now hears the Irony:
It?s hard to believe that she birthed another scarily righteous leader in the shape of Tony Bleair. He too has that ?Talks to god look on his punchable face?
He was groomed for greatness by the same team used by Thatcher.

I don?t know if anyone?s noticed but becoming the next government will ultimate a poisoned challis.
We have only just paid off the Second World War. We are involved with a few recently and, economically they tend to destabilise economies.
Unstable economies tend to polarise political beliefs.

We need a constitution, a new parliament building (Westminster is being help up by aqua props and is covered in scaffolding half the time, it has shit disabled access too) The new seat of government should be in the centre of the country and the design of building should reflect the multi party modern democracy we live in.

I hate the lot of them, but there like the anus, not pleasant but necessary.

What?s happening in politics at the moment could be a positive if it leads to a reorganisation of the British political system.

I only hope she lives long enough until Iv stopped breast feeding, Ill be able to go to the pub and raze a glass.

Surreal

Very much so.

Sorry about all that, I just needed to get it off my chest before I give birth.
Iv been in the presents of MPs and heads of state, Iv sniffed them at close hand.
Iv met enough to know what I?m talking about.
Iv lurked inside the House of Commons and have even got into an email argument with the sergeant of arms. I suppose I needed to blurt out several years of insight.

I found great comfort in this website over my pregnancy, debate and free speech are the life?s blood of a democracy. It?s a good sign.
Mums swearing and talking politics, spot on.
Oh yea, sorry about the terrible spelling.
Was that a contraction?.?

its an outbreak

The Telegraph has an interesting article reporting the recent Oxford Union debate on "http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/daniel_hannan/blog/2009/06/12/margaret_thatcher_saved_britain Margaret Thatcher Saved Britain".

The voted for the motion by 154 - 152.

On interesting bit of the article also notes the utterly loathsome attitude of the left wing cultural elite to her:

"So total is our cultural elites' disdain for Margaret Thatcher that her eventual demise is regarded as a legitimate cause for celebration by BBC comedy writers and Guardian columnists."

Sadly, some of that attitude seems to be reflected in this thread.

The article puts forward an interesting arguement as to why she is so still hated by the left:

"No, what Lefties (with honourable exceptions) find so hard to forgive is the lady's very success: the fact that she rescued a country that they had dishonoured and impoverished; that she inherited a Britain that was sclerotic, indebted and declining and left it proud, wealthy and free; that she never lost an election to them. Their rage, in truth, can never be assuaged; for it is the rage of Caliban."

you can have a modicum of respect for what she did (personally i dont) but despise the way she did it?

Woops link again:

Thatcher Saved Britain

err. well its a good article in terms of journalistic abilyt but even ABD has to admit its ever so slightly biased..

sorry ability. so you can see why i am not a journalist myself..

Paols girl, not free milk now but free fruit - dietary needs change. and tbh i just hated that manky warm milk we used to get.