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Do you think that the cctv footage of the last moments of Ben Kinsella's life needed to be shown?

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welshone51 · 12/06/2009 17:31

I cant even bear to put a link on here about it. It is truly heart breaking and it has really upset me ( I am not easily upset )

I personally think that the cctv footage shown all over the news of the last few moments of a fatally wounded child's life is too much and shouldnt be shown.

I appreciate that his name needs to live on and the footage may make people stop and think but its extremely upsetting.

R.I.P Ben x x x

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monkeytrousers · 12/06/2009 22:35

BBC news 24 actually. In the afternoon.

monkeytrousers · 12/06/2009 22:43

"But more than that, it might make more impact on someone who's not yet committed a similar crime but is in danger of doing so, ie young lad, does a lot of posturing with his gang, carries a knife, brags about cutting someone etc etc. Hopefully if they ever got to see something like this they might think twice"

Well, like you say, hopefully. What if it does the opposite.

You know that when suicides are reported, there is always a spike in suicide rates, don;t you? Or that gun crime and knife crime accelorated at a rate which corrolates to the medias obsession to it?

Maybe the media should start talking to criminologists rather than justifying the risks they themselves pose to public saftey in the quest for viewers.

But why stop at CCTV - why not show kids all kinds of torture and atrocity captured on video if, as you suggest, it will get the message across that murderers are 'losers' and idiots. As if someone goes out and thinks, 'tonight I will/will not be a loser'. Life is much more complicated.

Have you no idea of the kudos within gangs? As if lecturing them or showing them fuzzy images of kids being knifed will change the life history that leads some people down the road of violence.

3littlefrogs · 13/06/2009 16:51

The killers were grown men, who jeered and shouted at Ben's family in the court. They are monsters, and nothing will make them feel a shred of remorse. Twenty years isn't long enough - they should throw away the key IMO.

juuule · 14/06/2009 09:58

Agree with Monkeytrousers.
I haven't watched the footage and have no intention of doing.

One thing that doesn't seem to have been considered are the decent young people who wouldn't ordinarily carry a knife/weapon. Young people can be made to feel insecure and afraid by things like this happening and could end up carrying a knife or joining a gang in a misguided attempt to protect themselves should they find themselves in this sort of situation.

HeadFairy · 16/06/2009 10:27

sorry, late returning to this thread.. Monkeytrousers which bit did you see on BBC? Was it the beheading video? As someone who edits for BBC news I can tell you we've never ever shown a pixellated image of a beheading. In fact, we stopped showing moving footage of captives videos pretty early on. And we never pixellate any more as these can be decoded, we blur but never pixellate. And without a shadow of a doubt we have never ever shown a beheading video pixellated or blurred. In the early days of these kidnapping videos we did show footage of the captives speaking, but eventually it was decided it was playing too much in to the captors hands, so we just showed freeze frames. Perhaps the video you saw was online? It certainly wasn't on BBC news.

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