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Swine Flu. Are we in big trouble with this then?

586 replies

Meglet · 25/04/2009 21:20

This sounds worse than the bird flu that thankfully never really happened.

news.bbc.co.uk/mobile/bbc_news/top_stories/801/80183/story8018356.shtml?

Sky news have a press conference on now about possible cases in new york. When do we start panic buying .

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ElenorRigby · 29/04/2009 13:25

Mrsprepared I was reading my workplace Pandemic Flu plan yesterday.
Pandemics typically last months and come in waves according to that document, how can you plan for that eventuality?
I personally think all we can do is reduce risk by avoiding crowds and good hygiene.

Mrsprepared · 29/04/2009 13:27

Wishing not quite but very very remote. Not ideal but better than being in somewhere built up.
They don't move in for another week.

I wish I could sail and had a boat, I'm not as prepared as i though!

wishingchair · 29/04/2009 13:31

Good point Mrsprepared. May seek anonymity via internet shop. Plus don't think I could suffer the humiliation of buying tinned food in our local ...

Mrsprepared · 29/04/2009 13:31

Jooly my FIL is ex-military dont worry you will be very well looked after.

Plus the goverment does have stockpiled food and their are official plans for this type of situation. But just incase...

Elenor Yes I am aware that why I have a safe haven, if it is bad it will last a very long time. I most worried about it mutating into something worse.

ElenorRigby · 29/04/2009 13:31

I was going to take DD to a toddler group this afternoon, hum maybe I won't bother...

donnie · 29/04/2009 13:34

of course ultimately people do resort to cannibalism in these situations. Have you read 'The Road' ? or 'Millennium People'? we must watch our porky little backs at all times.

Mrsprepared · 29/04/2009 13:34

Elenor I am debating asking my sister to keep her kids off nursery, as they will be taken to our safe haven with us.

donnie · 29/04/2009 13:35

personally I would not like to eat human flesh but what if I am extra hungry? that'll be the test i suppose.

wishingchair · 29/04/2009 13:36

Elenor ... I would say until schools start closing, there's no need to worry.

donnie · 29/04/2009 13:36

and I read 'Alive' by Piers Paul Read as well. I am sensing a pattern....

Mrsprepared · 29/04/2009 13:37

Donnie no haven't read those books, do they have useful tips?
PIL are quite porky so I'm not to worried, plus MIL says the younger members of the family should be given best chance of survival over the oldies. She is quite charitable.

Upwind · 29/04/2009 13:38

"Wishing not quite but very very remote. Not ideal but better than being in somewhere built up."

Yes, because very, very remote is just what you want when taken ill. If things get really bad, expect the locals to use their guns to gain access to your stockpile.

I bet you have gold coins too. Fat lot of use they'd be in a real disaster.

donnie · 29/04/2009 13:39

yes Mrsprepared, a few useful tips, most of which involve murdering other people so not actually that great IYSWIM!

Joolyjoolyjoo · 29/04/2009 13:40

DH has a gas-mask in here somewhere...do you think I'd get funny looks on the school run?

Mrsprepared · 29/04/2009 13:41

No gold coins money will be worthless.
FIL has a riffle.
DH can also shoot well but no gun.

Mrsprepared · 29/04/2009 13:42

Maybe i will give them a miss then donnie. Don't want to sin badly if case I die of swine flu.

ElenorRigby · 29/04/2009 13:43

Wishingchair a school in Torbay has already closed after a 12 yo was confirmed as having H1N1
"The school attended by the girl - Paignton Community College - has been temporarily closed. All 2,300 children who attend the mixed-sex comprehensive are being offered anti-viral drugs." Link
This was announced by Gordon Brown in Prime Ministers questions earlier...

donnie · 29/04/2009 13:48

yes that is also an issue with me mrsprepared - I don't want to go to hell with swine flu.

expatinscotland · 29/04/2009 13:49

Well, two of mine are at nursery now. Ages 5 and 3. I have a six-month old baby, too.

You can close everything you want it won't mean you won't get it.

And still more likely to die in a car accident.

Probably better to get it now if you're going to, anyhow, before it mutates or combines with another strain.

Mrsprepared · 29/04/2009 13:52

expat, I've been wondering that to maybe it is better to get the mild version first then implement stage 2.
I'm not as worried about getting sick as I am about house the country will react.

ElenorRigby · 29/04/2009 13:53

Expat she will be going to nursery tommorrow as usual, I'm home today so I can amuse her. Like I said I'm looking to reduce risk by cutting out doing things I do not need to do.
I review the situation daily of course.

Upwind · 29/04/2009 13:57

I'm not as worried about getting sick as I am about house the country will react.

By being distracted from economic meltdown and the role of politicians? My not coming together in protest? By staying indoors huddled over pcs and games consoles? By tweeting hysterically and spreading panic?

Mrsprepared · 29/04/2009 14:01

Are you implying I'm being hysterical?
I'm very calm. I always had a zombie plan and my stockpile has always been there. We are going about our normal lives, we run our business mostly from home.
I have also said that I dont think it will be that bad.
Why not be prepared?

wombleprincess · 29/04/2009 14:04

expat, good idea. under what aisle in tescos?

LlamaFarmerKarmaHarmer · 29/04/2009 14:05

I am not sure withdrawing kids right now will do anything except hurt people's pockets. I don't think panic is wise, but reading up and informing ourselves is - the pandemic planning is real and important because if there is a true pandemic the consequences we need to worry about are not necessarily death but just getting by as daily life is disrupted.

I read the 'preparedness plans' and flu plans a couple of years ago and as I understand it, the UK is VERY WELL geared up to prepare for a pandemic. Some of the cynics here are right: people will die as they do of flu, but it may be more or less than 'normal' seasonal flu.

My understanding of the pandemic plan was that regional health monitoring will kick in and schools and childcare settings will be closed as necessary, not a blanket closure.

I think the real risk - if this does turn into widespread flu - is on work and care. Estimates are for between 30 and 50% absenteeism in the case of a large outbreak as people fall ill and/or have to care for those ill or just off school.

But in theory, local authorities, utilities providers, private distribution companies are all supposed to have a contingency plan in place.

And the govt has gradually been drip feeding the idea of private citizens having a 'preparedness plan' for just this eventuality (or terrorism etc). I am thinking of it like insurance: you hope you won't have to use it, but knowing what you would do if for example your whole family were ill at once?

Hysteria won't help, nor will creative conspiracy theories. Realistic prevention and contingency planning will help if, as everyone hopes it won't, large numbers of the population are ill at once.