COT DEATH

[nannyoakley]

I'd be interested knowing what anyone thinks about cot death being in the news so much and what your thoughts are on cot death. Most parents are left confused by what to do and we hear from people all the time wanting to know what is going on - why there are so many cot death parents being released from prison, why they were ever in prison in the beginning. The main gist of our campaign is to make sure our news about mattress wrapping for cot death prevention reaches the public, and give parents an informed choice, we believe it should be the parents who decide what they want to do - and believe me, we hear from people every day wanting to know about the Cot Life campaign.

Please ask questions / tell me what you think about what you are hearing in the news and reading on the internet, your thoughts are valuable to me and I think this is a serious issue that needs public debate.

Hope you can help.
Many thanks
Julee

Socci, it isn't, read moo's link! She is part of the "wrapping" empire!

Are you a member of the NCT, nannyoakley?

Socci, we're not being harsh at all. "nannyoakley" regularly spams NCT lists with her matress wrapping stuff and has been on here doing the same stuff. She's not a genuine poster.

(Nannyoakley is, not moo! )

no hunker - she's a member of the "Cot Life Soceity"..........who for the UK has a free geocities homepage

Research which confirms and supports the toxic gas theory for cot death
www.cotlife2000.com/

whatever

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I know, Gwenick - was referring to her liking for sending the NCT big wadges of pink processed meat

nannyoakley, a website that sells mattress wraps isn't somewhere I'd look for unbiased research about mattress wrapping.

Pruni - I just want some help from a group like this in UK. It isn't easy to campaign for something you believe in for ten years falling on deaf ears, or being accused of trying to make money from cot death and it's not nice to know that the government, manufacturers and the like are not people you can fight!!! I am hurt when people say that I make money from cot death. I held my baby son in my arms when he died and I will never forget his little face - I will never forget that one terrible day. I would never make money from cot death.

For the record my baby son had a second hand mattress and so did my daughter. I still live in my own council house and I do please - need your help.

Why didn't your first post mention your tragic loss, nannyoakley?

nannyoakley, why aren't you supporting the back-to-sleep campaign?

Julee, perhaps you should be trying to raise awareness of the fact that you shouldn't use second hand mattresses.

I am sorry, and I do feel sorry for you despite how you upset many of my friends by your spam emails (sone of whom were cot death parents) but your research does not stand up to scrutiny.

there is no need to wrap mattresses in the UK - I quote "Accordingly, following removal of those chemicals [phosphorus, arsenic and antimony] from British plastic-covered mattresses from 1989 onwards

Yes, you are right [phosphorus, arsenic and antimony] were removed from British plastic-covered mattresses from 1989 onwards. But the same said chemicals were not and cannot be removed from used mattresses. And the time it takes a mattress to go mouldy etc and produce the chemical problem can be about three months - this tells us that no mattress can be considered safe, wether it be new or old. And being that these chemicals are used in the fire retadancy act for fire safety reasons and by manufacturers as plasicisers etc, what are the manufacturers and government saying they use in the place of the chemicals they stopped using?

When you think about it logically - why do we need fire retardants in a babies cot mattress?

By JanH on Monday, 18 April, 2005 10:58:37 PM

Why didn't your first post mention your tragic loss, nannyoakley?

Because really this isn't about me and my baby son. It's about preventing cot death, it's so other babies don't die - so other parents don't have to see what I did that awful day.

When you think about it logically - why do we need fire retardants in a babies cot mattress

Because quite frankly if (god forbid) I had a fire in my house which spread to my babies room I'd like to think that the mattress he sleeps on wouldn't immiditaely combust into flames as soon as it overheats - having a fire retardent mattress at least gives him a few more seconds chance!

it isn't the fire that kills - it's the smoke.

nannyoakley, why did the cot death rate fall dramatically after the back-to-sleep campaign was launched?

And do you support it?

must have been coincidence HM -

But how do they make the mattresses safe?

What other chemicals are used in the place of arsenic, phosphorus and antimony (which should never have been there in the first place) because if furniture must be fire retarded because of the fire retardancy act - Fire, Safety regulations - then some other chemical/s must be being used...

nannyoakley, Irishbird did a very complex calculation. Most of it went over my head (I'm only a man), but she seemed to have figured out that new mattresses are OK, even by YOUR claims.

May I ask you to address her specific point, if that's possible.

and what chemicals are used in plastic wraps? Surely there must be 'some' in there...........