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have we got a thread yet about the Daily Express's "story" about Dunblane survivors?

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fryalot · 12/03/2009 13:13

They've pulled the article from their website, but this should link to it

So, kids behave like kids and get blasted for it in a national newspaper. And that's news?????

Crap, lazy, sensationalist reporting imho

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poopscoop · 12/03/2009 17:45

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DizzySquonk · 12/03/2009 17:48

do you want me to C & P the whole article in?

frumpygrumpy · 12/03/2009 17:49

Couldn't agree more with what others have already said. Useless reporting on a non-story. Shock! Horror! He has a tattoo and used rude words! Shame! Its a rite of passage........they will all grow into thoroughly normal adults. What these kids were tragically made a part of is a mere sideline of their teenage life.

Perhaps the reporter should grow up.

Or perhaps the reporter is only ten.

Kathyis6incheshigh · 12/03/2009 17:50

I bet it sold papers though.

Is this a MN thread where no-one is disagreeing? Surely someone is going to pop up eventually to say it is an excellent article?

HecatesTwopenceworth · 12/03/2009 17:51

Dizzy - I think you should!

DizzySquonk · 12/03/2009 17:51

memorial

Sunday March 8,2009
By PAULA MURRAY

DUNBLANE survivors have ?shamed? the memory of their dead peers with foul-mouthed boasts about sex, brawls and drink-fuelled antics as they reach adulthood.

A number of the youngsters, now 18, have posted shocking blogs and photographs of themselves on the Internet, 13 years after being sheltered from public view in the aftermath.

Sixteen pupils and their teacher died when gunman Thomas Hamilton burst into the gym at Dunblane Primary School and opened fire on March 13, 1996.

In the days and months that followed the survivors, then aged just five and six, were the subject of overwhelming worldwide sympathy.

But now the Sunday Express can reveal how, on their web-based social networking sites, some of them have boasted about alcoholic binges and fights.

For instance, Stewart Weir ? who was hit by a single bullet and watched in horror as his classmates died ? makes rude gestures in pictures he posted on his Bebo site, and boasts of drunken nights out.

The webpage of Mark Mullan, who suffered serious injuries in the shooting, states he is the ?f*y who canny stop drivin in the silver hing?, is littered with foul language and features images of him with his new tattoo on his back.

Others boast about discovering sex. Politicians and relatives of the victims yesterday said they were shocked by the webpages.

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Nancy McLaren, whose granddaughter, Megan Turner, died in the tragedy said the behaviour ?brought shame? to the community.

She said: ?It is insulting. They were damn lucky to come out of it and they should be making the most of it. Maybe that?s what they think they are doing, but it is in bad taste.

?We go to the cemetery every Sunday and we nearly always meet some people who are visitors, and they come and have a wee look. I think that is lovely and I always say to them that it is nice they remember.

?So the behaviour of these children is a real contrast to all those caring people. It?s shameful.?

MSP Elizabeth Smith, Scottish Tory spokeswoman for children, schools and skills, said: ?I have to say personally I?m not happy. Some of the things that go up on these websites are very unfortunate and I don?t think they give a very good picture about the youngsters.

?Some of them are in great bad taste and I am quite worried about that.

?I feel embarrassed about it and I?m sure other people do too. In some cases the people are still really young and you can?t really expect them to have a sense of responsibility.

?I?m sure that when they look back at what they have done in 10 years time they will be cringing with embarrassment.?

The Dunblane survivors were kept away from the spotlight in the aftermath of the tragedy to allow them to cope. Indeed, no photographs of any of the children have been seen in more than a decade, and the social network sites give the first insight into how their lives have progressed.

Stewart Weir?s Bebo page, which is a shrine to Rangers Football Club and Scotland, boasts about ?gettin gassed wi? the lads?, enjoying ?carry oots?, and getting in fights.

On his profile he writes: ?Im stewart although im also known as weirdo i like to tkink im a sound guy but i get p*d off easily nd if u p** me off ul know about it as i start gettin smart just ask graeme.?

Among the blogs on his site is a list of the 23 best chat-up lines ? but he is still single. His pictures include images of him gesturing with one finger, and posing in London as a ?Scottish terrorist? with a scarf around his face.

It is a far cry from the image of the smiling boy in the back row of Gwen Mayor?s class.

The social network site of Mark Mullan is equally eloquent as he states he is ?up fur anyhin?. On his biography he asks to be called ?God? and says he lives ?fur the weekend, that sounds so sad but am 18 so suck ma b*ws.?

He adds: ?U?ll find one in Dunblane on a friday or saturday night staggerin about down the street or the hills, consumin BUCKFAST (its just good). If u dinny drink till u drop ur no drinkin.?

Mullan was named player of the year by Bannockburn Amateurs youth football team. He suffered major abdominal and pelvic injuries in the shooting.

In the days following the tragedy his late father, Jim, said relatives were worried the youngster might suffer from long term effects. Speaking in October 1996, he said: ?He?s trying to forget which is fine, but isn?t fine, if you understand. He needs treatment but not in a dramatic way.?

Mrs McLaren said yesterday she would consider confronting the survivors involved.

She added: ?Can it really be genuinely these same young people? I think it is totally out of order to put something like that on the Internet. It is a bit nasty really.?

shonaspurtle · 12/03/2009 17:57

It really beggars belief.

Is the Express involved in some sort of crusade to force stricter press regulations? Because it feels like that with the purient drivel it prints.

shonaspurtle · 12/03/2009 17:59

What was Paula Murray thinking? Trawling around Bebo looking for the names of Dunblane survivors, doorstepping the relatives of the deceased for comment. Nice.

poopscoop · 12/03/2009 19:25

thanks Dizzysquonk - have read it and agree with all the others on this one.

StewieGriffinsMom · 12/03/2009 19:30

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Hulababy · 12/03/2009 19:44

Not suprisingly "Have Yor Say" in unavailable for this article.

It is such a non story. They are teenagers beining teenagers. In doesn't sound like they are mentioing their tragedy at all, or commenting on what happened to them or their friends that day, they are not bringing shame on anyone or anything.

Yes, the bad language and boasting is hardly fab - but then they are kids, being kids.

The Express should be the one ashamed of themselves for searching the net trying to find these people and trying to cause more grief in their lives!

frumpygrumpy · 13/03/2009 09:44

So, can we get the Daily Suckpress to apologise? Such a pity we can't comment on their 'Have Your Say'.

Its the first thread in a long time that MN unite!!!!

edam · 13/03/2009 09:54

How ridiculous. Still, guess that's what happens when you have a proprietor trying to run a newspaper with no actual journalists.

fryalot · 13/03/2009 09:57

hmm... wonder if MNHQ will give me a prize for uniting mumsnet.

I didn't really think that anyone would think that this was acceptable in any way, what I do wonder, is why the fuckspress thought it was a suitable story to actually print!

I would be very interested in what they have to say for themselves.

I found a comment where the paper appeared to be blaming bloggers for the complaints that they had had about the story (I guess that the bloggers made sure that people who don't read the rag actually saw the article [guess I'm guilty of that too - so sue me!]) but no actual comment from the paper about the story itself, or the "journalist" who penned it.

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GetOrfMoiLand · 13/03/2009 10:00

How dare they name and 'shame' those kids. What a disgusting article.

Mind you I think only about 47 people buy the Express anyway.

But still, if I was the parent of those teens I would kick up and almighty stick.

And shame on the MSP who waded in with her well-thought out comment

Plus, what on earth are perfect strangers doing going to look at the cemetary. Why? And how macabre that the granny thinks that is a good thing.

GetOrfMoiLand · 13/03/2009 10:05

kick up an almighty stink I meant to say. My fingers are being really crap today.

duchesse · 13/03/2009 10:26

You can email her to give her your thoughts:
[email protected]

Hopefully she will leave journalism and find decent job which does not involve sifting sewage as this one appears to.

fryalot · 13/03/2009 10:33

have emailed her asking for her comments.

if she responds I shall let you know

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cory · 13/03/2009 10:44

Would it really surprise anyone if these kids went slightly further off the rails than someone who hadn't got that as part of their childhood memories? Instead, they seem to be behaving like fairly normal teenagers.

Peachy · 13/03/2009 10:46

It's almost a drive to force kids to develop survivor guilt, JIC any of them escaped it anyway.

DE at its best.

LurkerOfTheUniverse · 13/03/2009 10:48

there are always a pile of Daily Express newspapers left, even the Sport sells more

don't know why they bother

Simplysally · 13/03/2009 10:54

Cheap journalism - I bet most Bebo or MySpace pages are similar for teenagers, regardless of their childhoods. Why should surviving a terrible ordeal like that means that you have to be saintly?

edam · 13/03/2009 11:02

When you say 'journalism' you are being terribly generous. Porn-salesman proprietor has sacked most of the journalists and almost all the sub-editors - the people who check for libel (not that this is libel). Those who are left don't have the chance to actually go out and research stories, merely fill pages with press releases or, here, by crawling around Bebo and MySpace.

dweezle · 13/03/2009 11:10

I know there are some great journalists out there who present balanced and thoroughly researched articles but this is just lazy, irresponsible and unnecessary.

The journalist in question is obviously perfect and went through her teenaged years helping grannies cross streets and drinking lemonade.

Don't know what she hoped to achieve by writing this but uniting Mumsnet is probably not it.

However, this does bring home the dangers of splashing your life all over social networking sites.

Simplysally · 13/03/2009 11:42

Couldn't think of another word to cover it tbh Edam. Perhaps 'writing' would have been better.

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