n. ireland deaths

[JustCallMeGoat]

i can't quite believe the only reference to this on mumsnet is this

don't know whether to laugh or cry

lots of people have hidden the in the news topic, or they'd just rather talk about dancing on ice

maybe i should crash a dancing on ice thread. or start a thread with the word 'jade'

I know, I was surprised at the lack of debate too.
Anyway, here we are.
Deplorable.

i can't bear to even read about it. freaking nutters.

omfg
i seriously dont believe that op you just linked to

I heard someone on the radio this morning saying about staring into the abyss (SP) and I share that feeling.

WHY DO SOME PEOPLE THINK TAKING ANOTHER HUMAN LIFE IS AN ACCEPTABLE OD EXPRESSING A POLITICAL OPINION???

its not...it should not be tolerated... ever, anywhere, in any country!!

we pass by Masserene when visiting ILs.

Won't be taking the DSs over to NI for a wee while methinks.

Im amazed that it hasn't been discussed either.

Very sad news.

really highlander? it is not that bad surely.

highlander?
so do you think those of us who live here will be hiding indoors or something?

I'm so sad about it all - I am praying that this is an isolated pair of incidents and that they will catch the nutters and stop it from restarting, but I can't help worrying that someone will say the wrong thing, others will get defensive and the peace process will fall apart.

That's obviously their aim isn't it, wilbur?
I hope they don't get their way.
What kind of people don't want peace?
It is absolutely chilling.

Shocking and sad,I was brought up in northern ireland until I was 15.i am 44 now but my db moved back there in 2000 and he says that while the majority want and support the peace process there are those for whom this whole war has been their life and they just want to carry it on

As with the "war on terror", we buy into the desired vocabulary of terrorism by calling it a "war". These people are common murderers, not freedom fighters or "soldiers". Whatever they may think.

Agree UQD

i just hope like hell there are no retaliations

Yes they are common murderers, there is no valour to this despicable act. Unfortunately there are a lot of stupid and now-unemployed terrorists who find themselves with no role in the modern NI. Shame on them for trying to reintroduce terror into the lives of the poor innocent people who have lived under the shadow of fear for most of their lives

UQD - yes, I was slightly taken aback by Martin McGuiness saying that the "war" was over - I couldn't help feeling that he should have chosen less emotive language, no matter what he personally believed at the time.

i suspect it is a side effect of the credit crunch, nothing like bunch of unemployed disgruntled psychotic nobs to fire up this sort of thing.

Goat - that's exactly what dh and I were saying last night - happy, settled, solvent people don't do this kind of thing (unless they're psychopaths, which may also be the case here).

These people refer to it and indeed see it as a war.I agree with carmenere they are literally at a loose end and the economic state of northern ireland can't be helping.Lots of young men with nothing to do easily recruited into this horror.I am about to ring my brother and see how things are hwere he is.

It's interesting how the violence ceased just when the "Celtic Tiger" kicked off, and has (hopefully temporarily) resumed now that the Irish economy has slumped.

These conflicts often have has much to do with economic wellbeing as politics and religion.

Frogfish the thought if retaliation by these groups is terrifying.My brother said they kind of expected it in some ways but he says everyone in his small town today is heartbroken at this

I was thinking of starting a thread
couldn't believe it this morn when dh told me what happened last night, just hope there are no revenge attacks, feel sick at the thought of returning to those days

highlander that you would feel like that