Daily Mail U-turn on MMR (astounding hypocrisy)

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How the middle-class MMR refuseniks are putting every child at risk

Has the Mail forgotten their role in this?

Blimey.

(PS quite suprised this hasn't already been posted. I did do a search, but couldn't find anything.]

"Wild measles doesn't produce such an effective immune response as the MMR strain"

Wrong.

Everyone who has had measles is immune. For life.

Meanwhile, only about 90% are immune to measles after MMR. And this immunity tends to fade through the years.

MMR discussion aside, what that stupid article says to me is 'I don't have the guts to talk to my 'friend' honestly'.
Charming bunch of people they must be

Riven - Most people are irrationally scared of these diseases because of government's marketing of MMR that has by now convinced them that they are "killer diseases". Remember that most parents of today were vaccinated themselves so haven't had measles, mumps, or rubella and hence have no idea what these diseases are like except what they have been told.

Erm I have a science background. So do the researchers currently looking at the autism/vaccination link. And there are more as more funding becomes available.

I agree with cote. MMR is safe for the majority of children. Indeed the majority of children who have autism have not been affected by the MMR (estimates are about 7%). I'm not particularly interested in the majority of children. Like most mothers I'm interested in my children. Having a son who regressed following a natural viral infection (agreed by his paediatrician), I am cautious about the way in which his and his siblings immune response is stimulated. Incidentally there are many forms of autism- these are inherited differently. If I had a child with high functioning autism and could see the broader autism phenotype merrily making its way through the generations I doubt I'd bat an eyelid before vaccinating my children. There is no autism in our family except non-verbal (aged 9) ds1 who lost all speech following a viral infection. There is however, plenty of autoimmune conditions. Has anyone googled university of california Davis and autism, or has anyone actually looked at the research projects Autism Speaks is funding these days (and more importantly where they are being carried out- world class institutes)?

It's not that controversial these days within the scientific community to believe that a small number of children with autism have been affected by the MMR (or other vaccinations). I have spoken in the last month to top of their field researchers and clinicians who have publicly said that they don't think it's common, but it's certainly probable in some cases. The same researcher said my son's history suggested he should be tested for a certain type of disorder and put me in contact with a clinician at Cambridge. If he has the disorder it is probable that ds2 and ds3 have it too. Forgive me for being cautious.

You can find books written by people who developed vaccinations (eg Lathe- who produced a rabies vaccination) who will state that he believes it is probably that Wakefield is right, and by his estimates about 5% of children with autism have been affected by MMR in the way Wakefield describes. You can hardly suggest that someone who developed a vaccination (which afaik is in widespread use) is anti-vaccination.

People who work in this field generally understand that its not simple. Most don't make the repeated error that autism is one thing/one condition either.

I never sid you were Gordon ramsey dahling LOL

I saw this in the Mail today, (I know, I know, but the crossword is £1500 on a sunday ).

So one day they print an article about how evil/stupid/irresponsible people are who don't vaccinate, and the next day they have one telling us how often mistakes are made in giving vaccines and the terrible consequences of those mistakes!