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americans and their " culture"

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Cod · 16/03/2005 07:20

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JoolsToo · 19/03/2005 21:37

I've just been trying to have a look under 'Home Office'

you've printed one out? are you going to do anything with it?

expatinscotland · 19/03/2005 21:39
Grin
JoolsToo · 19/03/2005 21:44

whats ILR and LLTR?

expatinscotland · 19/03/2005 21:48

ILR is Indefinite Leave to Remain. It entitles the bearer to remain in the UK indefinitely as a permanent resident. LLTR is Limited Leave to Remain. It is a visa that has a fixed time limit - two years, one year, etc. Persons on limited leave to remain have NO access to public funds. To access public funds is to violate the terms of their stay in the UK.

JoolsToo · 19/03/2005 21:53

this is all completely new to me - I'm learning stuff

I suppose this applies to all visitors and presumably there will be a number from other countries who take advantage

the Government must know it s going on tho' (surely?)

expatinscotland · 19/03/2005 21:56

I'm beginning to think the government is so preoccupied with other things that these folks are able to fleece the taxpayers unchecked.

JoolsToo · 19/03/2005 22:11

just reading some posts of yours and Ameriscot (guests)

expatinscotland · 19/03/2005 22:14

Yes, I was persona non grata there for some of my 'unsupportive' responses to people seeking encouragement for illegal activities, home-wrecking, etc. I've always been in the 'if you don't like it, leave' camp and cannot abide people who try to disguise whinging as 'venting'. Just call a spade a spade, people!

JoolsToo · 19/03/2005 22:14

"sell the Merc and buy a bicycle" pmsl!

JoolsToo · 19/03/2005 22:20

blimey expat - GO GIRL

I'll start you a fan club!

expatinscotland · 19/03/2005 22:28

Ameriscot's responses were better.

JoolsToo · 19/03/2005 22:37

my God - just finished! phew - what an eye opener - I think few journalists would be interested in all that!

Scoop!

shocking!

JoolsToo · 19/03/2005 22:37

btw - I certainly wouldn't call you 'timid'

expatinscotland · 19/03/2005 22:40

A spade is a spade.

JoolsToo · 19/03/2005 22:44

er - no disrespect to Ameriscot but I think your posts were excellent - ever thought of becoming a lawyer

JoolsToo · 19/03/2005 22:44

btw - it is shocking that our own officials are saying 'see what happens'

expatinscotland · 19/03/2005 22:55

Benefits fraud costs the UK government £2b/year.

mamadadawahwah · 19/03/2005 22:58

Always amazes me how americans can self victimise themselves, even over something as fatuous as a web forum!! Poor americans, boo hooo, and us baddy brits for "bashing" them!.

Sorry for depriving all of the americans of their victimhood, but just look at your history and the history of your "culture" and you will agree americans are NEVER the victims. And pleeease dont go into 9/11 or Pearl Harbour cause I will have to bring up more dirty laundry on that one.

expatinscotland · 19/03/2005 23:02

At the end of the day, I am here in the UK on their hospitality. It's a priviledge and not a right. And I treat it as such. No one forces an American to emigrate to another country, so I don't see what basis there is to complain about anything he/she may find in that other country.

JoolsToo · 19/03/2005 23:06

mama - I have just come across two Americans I have a great deal of respect for and I'm sure there are more like them.

it's just a pity they have Bush at the helm

expatinscotland · 19/03/2005 23:08

There are many decent people in the world. So many, many wonderful people. It's a shame when a few bad apples try to spoil it for everyone else.

mamadadawahwah · 19/03/2005 23:33

Had dinner with my american friends on Thursday night and told them about this thread. They agreed wholeheartedly with many of the things said and cant understand why america is currently in this crisis of neoconservatism, except that it swings in roundabouts. This current blip (if they and we survive it) will inevitably end though and maybe americans who voted for Bush will realise the grave mistake they made. Perhaps one day America will again, be a beacon of light we will all admire. For the moment, however, this is simply not so, in fact the opposite.

bubble99 · 19/03/2005 23:55

Would the Canadians on this thread not agree, that at the heart of Canadian culture stands the great man......drumroll...... Stompin'Tom Connor?.... Genius!

expatkat · 20/03/2005 05:20

Ameriscot, I totaly agree with your assessment about American materialism, which is something that jars me whenever I visit the US. There's something frenzied about it, something that reminds one of illness or addiction. I see an aspect of that mindset creeping into the UK, by way of London, and I'm sure it's come from the US, which makes me a little sad.

And I, too, get annoyed with American expats who have made up their mind, the second they set foot in the UK, that everything is better in America. Some things probably do work better in America, but lots of things work better in the UK, and most of it falls into a grey area that's a matter of opinion. For example, I used to feel irritated by the dearth of take-away/ food delivery in London. In New York, you can order any kind of food, anytime of the day or night, and it arrives instantly, and you need never cook if you don't feel like it. But I gradually came to discover that the NYC way isn't necessarily "better." I think that being forced to cook most nights during the past 6.5 years I've lived in London, has made me a better cook and made me learn how to think ahead and be ultra organized about my shopping. I've also had to learn how to wing it on few ingredients. And I've probably eaten more healthfully as a result, too. BUT it would have been handy to have readily accessible (& cheap) food delivery from nearby restaurants during both of my pregnancies, when I had diabolical morning sickness but dh & the kids still had to eat.

Anyway, this is all a huge digression from Cod's original question.

Ameriscot2005 · 20/03/2005 07:35

Off to read the beginning of the thread...