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OMG - 15 mnth baby just been killed by a drink driver mounting the pavement

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oopsadaisyangel · 19/09/2008 19:08

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elkiedee · 19/09/2008 22:46

I do think it makes a difference that it was a 4x4, round here a lot of them park partially on the pavement and I think even when sober drivers are getting used to having less and less respect for pedestrians.

A few months ago I was walking down the pavement after dropping ds at his childminder and was horrified to have a motorbike pass me on the pavement. I was even more outraged when I went to ask the lollipop man nearby how to report it and he hadn't even noticed. This is a stretch of road used by lots of people with buggies and it was school run time, and it doesn't make me feel confident that a lollipop man is so unobservant, and didn't seem to understand what I was talking about.

Poor parents, I can't imagine anything worse.

LittleBella · 20/09/2008 07:26

It does make a difference that it was a 4x4. For a start, it mounted the pavement far more easily and quickly than an average sized car would have done and continued its momentum - if this vile woman had been in a different car, the impact with the pavement might have stalled her or slowed her down and she might not have hit the buggy. Also, once she had hit it, it might not have become trapped in quite the same way as it did, when she rammed it again and again making the death of the little boy inevitable.

If she was drunk, she won't just get off with a fine, she will definitely go to prison and quite right too. Unfortunately, she won't go for as long as she deserves because for some reason killing a child with your car is considered more acceptable than killing one by any other method.

findtheriver · 20/09/2008 10:29

Completely agree LittleBella

jellybeans · 20/09/2008 10:39

Completely agree too, LittleBella

Gawain · 20/09/2008 10:44

How horrendous.
I don't drive and walk my children to school. That mum is just like me. It really hits home

By the way people in the first article it says onlookers freed the baby. If you see someone trapped by a car or something heavy if you can't release them int he first 30 seconds then leave them til the emergency services arrive as the act of freeing them can ctually do harm.

NotDoingTheHousework · 20/09/2008 10:49

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Fimbo · 20/09/2008 10:50

I have tears in my eyes, especially at the bit in the DM link where it says she kept ramming the car against the rails each time crushing the pram a bit further.

Poor, poor family.

Peachy · 20/09/2008 11:01

its awful, I cant imagine te horror.

the trouble with 4 x 4's is that they re big. if youre a moderately shite driver in a punto, youre a massive risk in a 4x4: it doesnt create crapness but it does magnify it (having been almost removed from road by humungous 4x4 yesterday excercising the rght they seem to ave of reversing down our litle 1 way street- in a normal car she'd have had manoevreng space iyswim)

we have a large car compulsorily (large family, villge so car essential) but deliberately chose one of the smaller models- there are some

findtheriver · 20/09/2008 11:11

Spot on peachy. If you're a crap driver, then at least in a smaller car you are less of a danger. I also think that while 4x4s don't create crap drivers, they do sometimes attract bad drivers. If you lack confidence in your ability, then it's easier to feel safer in a bloody great tank. I live along a narrow street where parking on one side means that most stretches of it are single lane for most of the day. And the fact is, the 4X4s are the cars most likely to come zooming towards you when it's your right of way - it's the 'I'm in a bigger car so you're more likely to pull in than I am, even though i'm on your side of the road' mentality. Ignorant fuckers!

lanismum · 20/09/2008 11:14

That poor baby, what a selfish shit of a woman the driver is, why on earth did she carry on ramming the car into the gates, was once not bad enough

SheSellsSeashellsByTheSeashore · 20/09/2008 11:23

poor family and poor little baby. i often wonder what goes through a persons head when they get into a car knowing that they are not fully competant.

even in the hands of a sober driver any car is potentially a deadly weapon. it seems people have no respect for that anymore.

she should go to prision for a very long time but i very much doubt that she will. if she is jailed her sentance will be minimum. no sentance could take away the families pain but at least a decnet one would give them a sense of justice.

hifi · 20/09/2008 11:48

im surprised the crowd didnt rip her to bits.

Blu · 20/09/2008 11:48

I don't know - causing death by driving while drunk should see her in prison.

In the Guardian this morning it says that 15 parents outside the school tried to lift it off the child (who was still alive) but because of the weight of it (4x4) they couldn't. She was dangerous, irresponsible and drunk - but had this been a genuine accident the attempted rescue was still more difficult. A tragic combination of factors, for the child and family.

Blu · 20/09/2008 11:50

hifi - many were trying to lift the vehicle, while others formed a human screen so that the schoolchildren would not witness what was happening....

probably saved hyer skin.

2shoes · 20/09/2008 11:55

RIP poor baby

ElfOnTheTopShelf · 20/09/2008 17:38

this is such a sad story.
The saddest line in the DM article was "He was talking a little bit and was already walking a little bit,' said Mrs Woods. We had bought him his first pair of shoes from the market on the morning he died."

WendyWeber · 20/09/2008 22:53

The shoes got to me too, Elf

edam · 20/09/2008 23:02

horrible, horrible story. I do hope the driver gets a very severe sentence.

Agree with Blu, even if the woman had been sober, driving a 4x4 made her much more dangerous.

WendyWeber · 20/09/2008 23:11

She lives a street away from the baby's family, with 2 teenagers; what is their life going to be like now, poor things, knowing their mother did this?

SammyK · 20/09/2008 23:13

This story has made me cry - his poor family. the first shoes aspect hit me too, it's these little milestones that are so emotional.

How awful for everyone who witnessed it too and tried to help - those moments will stay with them forever.

BexieID · 20/09/2008 23:35

That woman is a complete and utter selfish, irresponsible, family destroying bitch.

Some drivers are complete idiots. Today, one went through a red light, after coming out of a side road. Not the first time thats happened at the same lights (and last time there was a mum and baby about to cross!).

SparklyGothKat · 20/09/2008 23:41

That is terrible, I hope she rots in prison...

gigglewitch · 20/09/2008 23:48
Sad
QueenBhannae · 20/09/2008 23:52

Disgusting The fact that she rammed that poor darling boy against the railings at a school so many times should impact on her sentance imo. Not just a drink driving piddly sentance. I hope she suffers for this horrendous act.

As for the mail. The tact used in their reporting techniques is non exsistant and I was sickened to find that when my cursor rested on the picture of the gorgeous boy it came up with a text bubble that stated 'dead baby'

everlong · 21/09/2008 22:20

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