OMG! They are taking the peadophile thing a bit too far me thinks!

[mamadiva]

I don't know if this has already been done.

The Wright Stuff is on and apparently, men who are in parks are to be quizzed by passing wardens as to why they are there if they don't have a good enough reason they could be sent away or arrested if acting suspiciously!

Is it just me or is this just taking it too far?

Yet again it's men who get targetted, so if a woman is sitting in a park alone it's fine? I don't understand this!

total hijack but not irrelevant - I thank god for the man who saw my daughter running down a main thoroughfare road in Brisbane after the prac nanny 'lost' her from the children's hospital. Thank god that man did not think - oops better not help this little girl I might get accused of whatever. He simply took her hand and brought her back to the front desk at the children's hospital.

This happened after the CRB volunteer saw her trying to get into the lift and simply let her go as dd1 would not come with her.

FFS dd1 has sn and any reasonable adult in two seconds of conversation with her would realise that. So this hospital volunteer let her go - did not follow her to make sure she was okay - dhe let her go.

Dd1 was 4

This kind of erosion of our ordinary freedom really makes me wish that David Davis was Tory leader now - I'd vote for him.

nothing wrong with your post mamadiva

Zazen, "I have to say that I always report single solitary men who sit in the children's playground watching the children - too weird and freaky for my liking."

You would have reported my dh then. He used to sometimes, on nice days, buy a sandwich in Sainsbury's then go and sit on a bench by the children's playground to eat it, when on his lunch-hour. He liked watching the children playing. He only told me about this after he had realised that two women were looking at him in a worried manner and he decided he'd better not do it any more - he sat on a bench overlooking the bowling green instead and watched the pensioners (who seemed unperturbed). It's sad that a man on his own can't sit and watch children without people thinking he has sinister motives.

It's not actually against the law for a man on his own to sit to sit on a bench in a park...yet.

I love watching children play, always makes me smile the things they say, how they play ect. so sweet. Am I weird and need locking up then??
Sorry but a peado can use any visional thing they have seen, and unless that man/lady sitting on a bench is trying to talk to, take away and taking pics of children, I think its a bit much!

having read the OP only arggghhhhhhhhhh

I think they should just tag all men and be done with it...

more cameras that what we need!

the world is mad and so is everyone who accepts this without protest. It has got to the stage where the only people who will continue to do anything for children are the paedophiles who haven't been caught yet. Decent ordinary people are sick of being accused of paedophilia by child care workers who just want to preserve their jobs by ensuring no-one voluntarily works with children.

When I was younger it was accepted that some people - particularly, but not exclusively women, enjoyed the company of young people. They might not want to work with them daily but they were happy to spend a few hours running youth clubs, brownies, beavers and so on, teaching them sport, helping them acquire new skills. Now it is seen as some sort of perversion!

If it is wrong to enjoy the company of children when you are not paid to do so it's about time all parents were paid to have children. What is strange about finding something pleasant in a child's delight in, say, a butterfly or their pleasure in painting a plantpot?

Now we have adults terrified of strange children and children who on the streets with nothing to do and becoming terrifying when they could be learning from good example. We HAVE to get adults and children back together.

It is bloody horrible that men feel so targetted.

When DD was born, DH was very reluctant to change her nappy as he said it felt too intimate . Before anyone says he was making a lame excuse to get out of it , he fathered and nappy changed 2 DS's before we had DD.

my mum has always said that my grandfather (who I never knew) would now not be allowed to behave the way he did with kids. he was the man on the beach who would play games with all and sundry, organise sand-castle building competitions with whoever was there and (probably his worst crime) buy them ice creams. he adored children.

fast forward a good few years and I found myself hinting to dh that he might not want to take the dog for a walk along the foot path that runs alongside the school playground during play times - because when I did it (dog is still a pup) I was beseiged by children (mostly girls) who wanted to talk to me through the fence. I was shocked to find myself vaguely uncomfortable with this (it was the absence of any other adult that did it, I think) and thought dh might find it even worse .

My German AP (sorry if repeating, not read the thread) says that in Gemnay if an adult is in a children's play area without a child they will be moved on by the police and questioned.

Dragon the iten being discussed is about PARKS - that does not imediately mean childrens play area.
but to answer your question

maybe they are enjoyingthe fresh air
maybe they are missing their grandchildren
maybe they have special needs and still like the park
maybe they like watching children play
maybe they would like to be left alone when they are doing no harm and minding their own business.

I am glad now that my father died before my mum. He adoreed kids and would have found it very difficult to know that without the 'cover' of my mother he could not go anywhere near a child for fear that the fuckwits would have been out in force.
There is a park just behind their house and they used to cut through and sit and watch the children on their way home from shopping. The idea that some twat could question him makes me

why should someone not enjoy the sight of people being happy - just become some of them are children? It would be a brave soul who actually spoke to any of them but if they sit there minding their own business why not?

If my husand saw a lost or distressed child now he would be reluctant to help, that is far more damaging to children. If he saw a child talking to someone in a car he wouldn't dare go over or even hover to see if the child was safe - or was being approached by a paedophile!

My FIL had a triple bypass a while ago, he has been slow to recover, one of the reasons for this is that he isn't excercising as suggested. He won't go for a walk on his own for the fear of being accused of something like this. At first I thought FFS, stop making excuses, then I saw this in a newspaper article a few weeks ago. It's a very sad state of affairs that we have to be so supicious of every man on his own......TBH I am more likely to give the group of teenagers drinking "white lightening" a wide birth with my kids than a single man in the park.

this thread makes me so sad. men afraid to help lost children. men afraid to enjoy a park. none of which decreases the chances of children becoming victim to paedophiles.

mamadiva I think I wasn't clear in what I was saying - I was saying that I thought the "elf and safety gorn mad, accusing us all of being abusers" thing was a Daily Mail hype. But what I found on the CP course, was a bunch of people who appeared to believe that the default modus operandi is to believe that all adults are abusers, whether emotional, physical or sexual, unless otherwise proven. Every single bruise had to be accounted for and reported to the CP co-ordinator in school, if a mother forgets to pack a lunch one day it's a potential sign of neglect, if a child claims that a bruise was caused by her sister fighting, that has to be reported because it means they aren't being supervised properly, ergo are neglected, etc...

I came out thinking they were all nutters tbh and feeling very very disturbed that these hysterical people have potential power over me and my children.

I HATE the way men are demonised in our society! Some people won't be happy until every man is chemically castrated, tagged and curfewed - or held in a pen until needed for breeding!

A paedophile is more likely to be the nice 'uncle' who comes round on a sunday and gives the kids sweets and plays horsie with them, than a bloke walking in a park. Most paedophiles build up a relationship with the parents of the kids they intend to abuse, they don't walk around on the offchance they might see a child

no wonder so many men have little or nothing to do with kids, even their own! Men have so much to offer children, so many kids have NO male role models and that is really sad. Men are going to be scared to step out of their houses soon!

trouble is it is the small few who spoil it for others. ie I saw a man picking his DD up from school and for some odd reason he decided to wait for his DD in the otherside of the school and choose to wait where the older girls were getting changed. His DD was in another part of the building and he had to be asked to wait outside with the other parents but he kept coming back in.

Like I said it is people like him who spoil it for 99.9% of men.

Totally agree with all the posts on here saying how awful to demonise men/childless people and what a disservice it does to child protection. I don't like the way this country is going and feel I was born in a happier and more hopeful age (50's).