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U53rName · 21/10/2026 14:11

Credit to @thebrowncatisback for the title. Original thread is here: www.mumsnet.com/talk/in_the_news/5589048-russell-brand?callback=in&code=YTEWYJJJMZQTMJFHNS0ZNDI5LTK3N2QTZWJHYWNHZJGXNZA2&page=39&state=aa7521b41da5458084d85ced7c73c27d

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KidsDoBetter · 23/10/2026 11:05

Whosthetabbynow · 23/10/2026 09:46

I think victim 5 could be the key to the entire case. If they find him guilty on that charge it’d be hard not to find him guilty in the other charges as it shows his propensity.

I am fairly sure they will be directed by the judge to consider each charge entirely on its own facts and the evidence presented. Which is the correct approach. As much as find him odious.

CoconutSwirl · 23/10/2026 11:18

Karmakamelion · 23/10/2026 09:59

Which Jimmy Saville interview?

Whilst employed at radio 2, Brand interviewed the grotesque Jimmy Savile.
Brand told Savile he had a female PA who he could arrange for Savile to meet, and that part of her duties as his PA were that she had to greet and massage anyone Brand instructed her to. Savile said yes to his offer but that he'd prefer it if she could arrive wearing nothing, to which Brand replied "That won't be a problem".
This was all live on air.
I was driving with R2 on in the car at the time, and I heard the whole interview. When the two of them had that exchange, I remember driving along being shocked and horrified that this conversation was happening live on air, and then later on I was confused that Brand's employment with R2 wasn't instantly terminated.

Whosthetabbynow · 23/10/2026 11:50

KidsDoBetter · 23/10/2026 11:05

I am fairly sure they will be directed by the judge to consider each charge entirely on its own facts and the evidence presented. Which is the correct approach. As much as find him odious.

Oh absolutely the judge will do that but the seeds are sown

MrTiddlesTheCat · 23/10/2026 12:04

Mamamia35 · 21/10/2026 23:05

Look up YouTube Sunday Service with the Brands. Completely bizarre.

That makes me feel physically sick.

WhereAreWeNow · 23/10/2026 12:13

CoconutSwirl · 23/10/2026 11:18

Whilst employed at radio 2, Brand interviewed the grotesque Jimmy Savile.
Brand told Savile he had a female PA who he could arrange for Savile to meet, and that part of her duties as his PA were that she had to greet and massage anyone Brand instructed her to. Savile said yes to his offer but that he'd prefer it if she could arrive wearing nothing, to which Brand replied "That won't be a problem".
This was all live on air.
I was driving with R2 on in the car at the time, and I heard the whole interview. When the two of them had that exchange, I remember driving along being shocked and horrified that this conversation was happening live on air, and then later on I was confused that Brand's employment with R2 wasn't instantly terminated.

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Bloody hell! When was that?!

SpanishFly · 23/10/2026 12:53

WhereAreWeNow · 23/10/2026 12:13

Bloody hell! When was that?!

The problem with all of this is, presumably (?) it was all said in a way which could be argued was jokey, tongue-in-cheek etc, and that of course he wwasn't being serious etc.
Utterly grim.

KidsDoBetter · 23/10/2026 12:56

Whosthetabbynow · 23/10/2026 11:50

Oh absolutely the judge will do that but the seeds are sown

Of course. It’s a massive benefit to the prosecution that all the charges have been heard together. As much as one is instructed to examine them in isolation - human nature is to draw inferences between the incidents, patterns of behaviour etc

KidsDoBetter · 23/10/2026 12:59

SpanishFly · 23/10/2026 12:53

The problem with all of this is, presumably (?) it was all said in a way which could be argued was jokey, tongue-in-cheek etc, and that of course he wwasn't being serious etc.
Utterly grim.

It won’t be part of the prosecutions case. There are endless examples of him doing, saying and writing utterly odious things in relation to women etc. But they will very much focus on the incidents before the court and what they say about his approach to consent etc.

A general character assassination won’t be the way they go.

Allthebookszerofucks · 23/10/2026 13:04

CrazyMidget · 23/10/2026 01:56

They will. There are so, so many celebrity children who grow up and read all about the horrible things a parent did, plus they have the press writing about them all the time. They never asked to be famous and have horrible parent(s). I bet they'd trade their big houses and private schools and connections to just to be anonymously middle-class and have nice normal parents.

Somebody on another thread has shared a family selfie he has posted on his social media, with his girls on it 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

In the middle of a high profile rape trial...

He really has lost the plot!

Whosthetabbynow · 23/10/2026 13:04

KidsDoBetter · 23/10/2026 12:56

Of course. It’s a massive benefit to the prosecution that all the charges have been heard together. As much as one is instructed to examine them in isolation - human nature is to draw inferences between the incidents, patterns of behaviour etc

Of course. The jury can’t unhear stuff as much as they’re directed to.

LizzieSiddal · 23/10/2026 13:09

Allthebookszerofucks · 23/10/2026 13:04

Somebody on another thread has shared a family selfie he has posted on his social media, with his girls on it 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

In the middle of a high profile rape trial...

He really has lost the plot!

He’s dispicable isn’t he. On trial for Rape and sexual assaults and put a phone go your daughters on the internet. And by allowing this, their mother is putting her H before her young daughters, are they safe with her ffs?!

MorwennaIII · 23/10/2026 13:23

I hope the judge gives the jury directions as to the meaning of ‘consent’. He needs to make them watch the ‘cup of tea’ video.

Allthebookszerofucks · 23/10/2026 13:45

LizzieSiddal · 23/10/2026 13:09

He’s dispicable isn’t he. On trial for Rape and sexual assaults and put a phone go your daughters on the internet. And by allowing this, their mother is putting her H before her young daughters, are they safe with her ffs?!

She is. I'd be like 'You do whatever you want but keep the kids out of it'
(Although I wouldn't still be with him at this point 🤦‍♀️)

Awful.

Karmakamelion · 23/10/2026 15:03

CoconutSwirl · 23/10/2026 11:18

Whilst employed at radio 2, Brand interviewed the grotesque Jimmy Savile.
Brand told Savile he had a female PA who he could arrange for Savile to meet, and that part of her duties as his PA were that she had to greet and massage anyone Brand instructed her to. Savile said yes to his offer but that he'd prefer it if she could arrive wearing nothing, to which Brand replied "That won't be a problem".
This was all live on air.
I was driving with R2 on in the car at the time, and I heard the whole interview. When the two of them had that exchange, I remember driving along being shocked and horrified that this conversation was happening live on air, and then later on I was confused that Brand's employment with R2 wasn't instantly terminated.

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Its actually beyond belief that they got away with it. Truly hiding in plain sight

Fooshufflewickjbannanapants · 23/10/2026 15:29

There is a YouTube channel I watch called never a truer word by jack fox and he did a break down of his interview with piers Morgan. Worth a watch.

Whosthetabbynow · 23/10/2026 16:45

I had a look at the YouTube Sunday video they did. How can you be so calm with all this going on? Must have zero depth of feeling. Truly baffling.

ejaar · 23/10/2026 17:57

hihelenhi · 22/10/2026 23:37

I always thought that "I'm so cool and edgy about sex" element was pretty dodgy in Fleabag, to be fair, and yes, precisely, that opening scene. I do think it's generational. See also "I May Destroy You" which is excellent in many ways, but I found myself saddened that in just a generation (or half a generation), understanding what sexual consent is and isn't was coming as a revelation to women not that much younger than me. And of course, they learn the hard way. (Although one key thing about this is that the young woman concerned in the Brand trial was absolute clear about her boundaries and what she'd consented to and what she hadn't. But she was STILL being dragged, quite disgustingly, imo, by Brand's defence lawyer, as if we were still back in 1973).

This shouldn't be difficult. The problem is that the boundaries have been (deliberately imo) blurred by the whole "we have to be soooo 'sex positive' and pro porn" thing, it was particularly prevalent again back in Brand's heyday, and I'm like, love, it's a con. We're allowed to like sex, but let's just think about who it benefits to have young women being told that ANY "no" is some kind of uncool prudishness. People like Brand (and others) take full advantage of that and it seems he got off on doing so. I'm gutted for that young woman. It's taken her sexual freedom and trust away and all because some wanker celeb is a manipulative rapey shite. Glad she had so many people backing her story up. AND pointing out to her that what he did there was rape.

I can see no reason at all for the jury not to find for her in this case, but then the comments I've seen from idiot, rape promoting men on social media suggest that huge numbers are still living in the dark ages and don't get the concept of consent AT ALL.

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Brilliant post.

sillysusan · 23/10/2026 19:10

WhereAreWeNow · 23/10/2026 12:13

Bloody hell! When was that?!

Watch the dispatches program on him, it shows the interaction with Saville

FedUpFeminist · 23/10/2026 19:11

What other witnesses/evidence do you think the prosecution will present in court?

mids2019 · 23/10/2026 20:36

FedUpFeminist · 23/10/2026 19:11

What other witnesses/evidence do you think the prosecution will present in court?

Have the prosecution finished?

FedUpFeminist · 23/10/2026 20:43

mids2019 · 23/10/2026 20:36

Have the prosecution finished?

No I think it’s due to last for about 8 weeks.

eastegg · 23/10/2026 21:42

The prosecution have pretty much finished.

The time estimate I heard was 6 weeks. That has to allow for the defence case and any non-sitting days (the court wasn’t sitting today for example). I heard however on the Sky news podcast that it’s gone faster than expected so far.

AlonsoMosley · 23/10/2026 22:12

@hihelenhi - extremely well said.

Anyone who objected to aresholes like him in the 90s were dismissed as pearl clutching and moral panicking.

On the back of that, any history I read now social concerns/mores are framed as conservatism or moral panic, I pause a moment and wonder.

Is it me or is there always an age differential in these situations? My mum drummed into me the idea that teens are really not fascinating, and therefore, to be wary of any man who seems enthralled by the latest navel gazing "insight"!

CoconutSwirl · 23/10/2026 23:27

WhereAreWeNow · 23/10/2026 12:13

Bloody hell! When was that?!

2007

colouringindoors · 23/10/2026 23:28

CrazyMidget · 22/10/2026 22:39

I've never taken much notice of him; he always left me cold. I was only vaguely aware of him until he and Ross pulled that despicable and intensely immature prank on Sachs. But now I am following the trial, and I've watched the first part of the Morgan interview, and the few minutes that I could bear of his "comedy". I noticed that it was relentlessly sexual, including sitting on an older man's lap in the audience and informing him that he had developed "a stiffy." 🤢

I find Brand profoundly sinister. He's a dangerous madman, imo. He's exceedingly immature, silly, childish, and those are his best points. He's dark, manipulative, and basically tickes all the boxes for the dark triad traits. He's playful in a mirthless, malevolent way. Really, really creepy.

The women's testimonies are utterly appalling. Those poor, poor things. I believe them 110 percent. The woman who experienced Brand just anally raping her with no lube and no warning....JFC, that is absolutely horrific.

He is vile and repugnant in every way and I sincerely hope that he goes down for the maximum amount of time possible.

Could not agree more. He sets off all my alarm bells, and more. His wife seems utterly brainwashed.

I believe his accusers, and I admire them massively for their bravery.

I do think Giselle Pelicot is having an impact in this arena.

I also hope he takes the stand and is revealed as the narcissistic abuser I believe him to be.

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