No. Please don't give in to tariff threat 🕊

[SunsetBeauty]

I'm very sad to see the POTUS is threatening tariffs to countries who don't support the US annexation of Greenland.

Am I unrealistic to hope many will, nevertheless, dissent?

Thinking of friends in the US, family in Canada and everyone in Greenland. I'm so sorry this is happening to you.

The man's a bully, pure and simple.

America have given him to us twice now. I don't feel sorry for America or Americans.

I hope he does

It will alienate him further and at some point his own people will topple the mad fucker

I prefer acceleration of derangement at this point, I don’t want him to go carefully. I want him to burn himself up in some lunacy that will send him off to a retirement home.

I feel incredibly sorry for the Americans who didn't vote for him. They are not to blame.

The fuckwits who elected him can rot in their own shit.

I really hope that Europe holds strong on Greenland.

Well put @LaurieFairyCake
Canadians continue to throw US shade, Trump will be pissed off we’ve had a successful meeting with Xi this week. I hope more countries grow some balls. Send their military home! Dump their bonds (slowly)

I feel sorry for Americans who voted against him.

About a third of Americans couldn't even be arsed to vote though which is bloody annoying.

Fair

This. Time for our Government to grow a pair and give Trump the middle finger.

Given the EU stood firmly behind Ireland in the brexit negotiations, despite the UK assuming they would throw us under the bus to protect German car manufacturers, it's highly unlikely the EU won't stand behind Denmark and, by extension, Greenland.

UK's a bit* less important than the US though.

Hope you're right - I'd be disgusted if the EU and the UK broke ranks on this. Trump can get stuffed.

*understatement

The EU will stand firm. Who knows with the UK. You just have to look at the total disregard they had for NI during brexit to know they're not even reliable in looking after constituent parts of the UK, never mind another country.

The EU is in a very precarious position as it imports nearly 60% of it's Liquid Natural Gas from the US. The EU options to get gas if the US stops supplying are very very limited as they can't get it from sanctioned Russia.

It looks like the EU will capitulate.

The EU can't capitulate. Doing so would probably result in the block falling apart. If you don't protect your members, what use are you as a block?

Admittedly, standing up to the UK during the brexit negotiations was easier as, despite what the UK thought, the EU were the more powerful. The UK expected the EU to throw Ireland under the bus to protect the German car industry. They didn't and they won't throw Denmark under the bus either.

Obviously if Denmark decide to ditch Greenland, that's a different scenario as Greenland isn't in the EU.

Trump has singled out individual countries for the tariffs. If the EU retaliates as a bloc the inevitable crazy over the top US response will affect all member states.

I just wish the UK had not got involved, it's nothing to do with us.

And those who didnt bother to vote are as complicit as those who voted for him

He can't target individual countries. The EU is a trading block and it's all countries or none. Trump is impulsive and just reacts off the top of his head without any prior research.

Ah, yeah. Not getting involved works so well against bullies. We saw what happened when Hitler was ignored for so long.

I feel the same actually. We are told all the time that the EU is powerful, and the UK isn’t, so why not let the EU sort it out on their own. The UK will get nothing from this at all, only agro, and our involvement will make no difference. But of course Starmer is an idiotic, useless dish rag who is quite happy to throw the UK and its people under the bus for sod all.

Where are you from? Ireland? What did Ireland do against Hitler, except help him covertly, sign his book of condolences? What has the Irish government said against Trump, and done about it? Isn’t Ireland wanting to be a “neutral country?” If so, who the hell are you to tell other countries what they should and should not do?

Ironic that The UK signed the Chagos Deal to hand over the Chagos Islands over to Mauritious against the will of the Chagos residents
We did not care what the residents of Chagos wanted then but Colonialism Bad then.

Now we are entering 'operation arctic endurance' sending troops to Greenland (a non Nato country) for Denmarks right to rule their Colony.

We are also going to send troops to Ukraine
We might end up in a war on two fronts against US and Russia, that sound a fantastic British foreign policy, well done Kier.

Firstly, Ireland did not help Hitler covertly. Quite the opposite in fact. Ireland had a very biased neutrality that favoured the allies. Read Guests of the State of you want to get some facts.

We were neutral because we had just managed to unyoke ourselves from 800 years of British oppression. Do you really think it would be appropriate for us to join the UK?

Re deValera expressing condolences re Hitler's death, yes that was a mistake. Dev believed that as a neutral country he should follow normal diplomatic practices when the leader of a country we were not at war with died. He was criticised at the time and has been criticised since.

Re criticism of Trump, yes, there have been plenty of that. It is presumably not reported in the UK press 🤷‍♀️. We are part of the EU so our actions are part of the EU rather than individual.

And I'm just as entitled to express an opinion as you are.

It was ‘a mistake’, was it, a simple little “mistake” to sign Hitler’s book of condolences. “Normal” diplomatic practice, for a perfectly “normal holocaust” was it? Other neutral countries, like Switzerland, managed to refrain. Portugal signed, but they were ruled by a dictator at the time.

And the war with Hitler was not just Britain vs Germany, was it? It wasn’t really our thing at all, but at least Britain went in. It was the Nazis vs the holocaust, the French, the the Belgians, the Poles, Czechs etc etc. Ireland wasn’t prepared to rock the boat for them either. Just remember that next time you think “Ah, yeah. Not getting involved works so well against bullies. We saw what happened when Hitler was ignored for so long.”

Very easy to talk tough when your country hides behind the EU and does nothing of substance on its own. If push comes to shove, what would Ireland do then? Keep hiding behind the EU no doubt.

I’d rather the UK passed on getting involved with the mad Trump’s desire to get his hands on Greenland, swapping one colonial power for another (presumably you disagree with Denmark’s suppression of the Greenlanders too? ). And yeah, I’m also entitled to my opinion.

Yes, it was a mistake. Dev was very rigid on protocol (it is likely he had ASD) and insisted on following normal diplomatic procedures.

Nobody knew about the holocaust in the early days so including in your list is a little disingenuous.

You obviously have a very limited knowledge of the history of the UK in Ireland. If Ireland joined up with the UK, it would have likely led to another civil war. We had endured 800 years of British imperialism, something you don't seem to understand. The UK had also placed restrictions on the size of the military following the AI treaty. That, coupled with the economic legacy of the treaty and the subsequent economic war meant we had next to no military to commit to a war. The trade war only ended in 1938 and we only got the ports the UK had occupied the same year.

Re "hiding behind the EU", we are a small country with little individual influence. We have influenced the EU in a direction that belies our size so for us, being part of the EU is not hiding but strategically influencing.

Yes, as I said, you are entitled to your opinion.

I think this is derailed the thread enough so I will not be replying to any more of your whataboutery.

A load of excuses and whataboutary from yourself! The whole sane world rightly condemned Ireland’s signing of his book of condolences, but Ireland apparently, didn’t know it was a bad thing to do.

Members of the Irish government literally endorsed Nazism, inconvenient for you though that may be.

More whataboutery from you, ignoring all the other allies, ignoring that it wasn’t Britain’s war, because your government supported the Nazis and you don’t like to admit it.

Yes, Ireland has definitely managed to be a net-taker from the EU, I’ll give you that.

Yes don’t bother with a reply. But whilst we are on the topic of colonialism and Denmark, I’ll leave some food for thought here: https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-01-15/the-deep-scars-between-greenland-and-denmark-children-torn-from-their-families-and-women-forcibly-fitted-with-iuds.html

What’s with the derail @FrizzyFrizbee?
Very annoying.

OP put out a post : “I'm very sad to see the POTUS is threatening tariffs to countries who don't support the US annexation of Greenland.
Am I unrealistic to hope many will, nevertheless, dissent?”

In response, some of us, though we disagree with Trump, would rather the UK kept out of it, about which “OchonAgusOchonOh” from Ireland has expressed an opinion.

And what was that opinion? It was “Ah, yeah. Not getting involved works so well against bullies. We saw what happened when Hitler was ignored for so long.”

Now, she could have kept her view to herself, but if OchonAgusOchonOh in Ireland expresses such an opinion then she shouldn’t be surprised if she gets a response.

And we can see that whilst OchonAgusOchonOh is happy to draw attention to British colonialism, she is not calling for independence for the people of Greenland.

And if you are finding that annoying, frankly I could not care less.

Never give in to blackmail. That's what this is, pure and simple. With a spot of DARVO thrown in as well. Apparently it's now Norway's fault for not coughing up a Nobel Peace Prize.