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KnitFastDieWarm · 05/11/2025 13:52

the word ‘omnishambles’ springs to mind…

theressomanytinafeysicouldbe · 05/11/2025 14:15

You would have thought after the last one they would have double double checked

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Porridgespoon · 05/11/2025 14:18

I think this happens a lot. It's just become news for some reason recently.

ThatsNotAKnife · 05/11/2025 14:20

Have these teams had recent staff cuts or are they employing temp staff who might not care or check?

Swiftasthewind · 05/11/2025 14:22

Prison doesn’t work anyway so everybody should be released. The only way to solve crime is through education and community outreach, if people felt valued they wouldn’t do bad things.

bigboykitty · 05/11/2025 14:23

'accidentally'

LadyDanburysHat · 05/11/2025 14:23

This one is only news because the last guy was a big news story. Almost 300 prisoners a year are wrongly released. It is astonishingly common.

Terrribletwos · 05/11/2025 14:23

After listening to accounts about this from staff it seems it is a problem of too few staff and temporary staff cos nobody wants the job anymore due to burnout, etc.

MurdoMunro · 05/11/2025 14:24

Ah yes. This will be another one of those lazy, stupid, entitled public service workers swinging it with mental health ‘issues’, ADHD and a bad back caused by overall laziness. Not structural at all. No. Get your bells out folks, time for an another round of blaming and shaming.

Justcallmedaffodil · 05/11/2025 15:57

Swiftasthewind · 05/11/2025 14:22

Prison doesn’t work anyway so everybody should be released. The only way to solve crime is through education and community outreach, if people felt valued they wouldn’t do bad things.

What absolute nonsense. Prison isn’t just about rehabilitation. It exists as a mechanism to remove from society those individuals who present a genuine danger to the public. Some people do infact commit crimes because they are simply bad people.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 05/11/2025 16:01

Swiftasthewind · 05/11/2025 14:22

Prison doesn’t work anyway so everybody should be released. The only way to solve crime is through education and community outreach, if people felt valued they wouldn’t do bad things.

How do we do that when people aren’t brought up in this system? Bit risky that!

I’m really angry that this man who has a history of sexual offences is still in this country.
We have enough abusive men that we raise here. We don’t need any more. They can fuck off somewhere else and if they don’t like it they can rethink their position on women as autonomous beings not objects to abuse.

And for the hard of hearing at the back- this isn’t racism, nor portraying all abuses as from particular ethnic groups. I have stated clearly we have plenty of abusive men born and bred right here. We can’t get rid of them, but We don’t need any more.

GetOffTheRoof · 05/11/2025 16:02

280ish released in error in the last year, but over 50,000 releases were managed successfully.

Context is important. Errors will always be made by humans.

GetOffTheRoof · 05/11/2025 16:03

ThatsNotAKnife · 05/11/2025 14:20

Have these teams had recent staff cuts or are they employing temp staff who might not care or check?

No and no.

WelshBookWitch · 05/11/2025 16:52

My now Ex husband was accidentally released and as I had always predicted he came straight for me. He was rearrested quite quickly because the fool went to the pub (where he had been arrested previously) rather than lying low. My solicitor, his solicitor, the police, the cps, the DV team were all telling me they had NEVER heard of this happening before.
This was is 2022.

GetOffTheRoof · 05/11/2025 17:07

WelshBookWitch · 05/11/2025 16:52

My now Ex husband was accidentally released and as I had always predicted he came straight for me. He was rearrested quite quickly because the fool went to the pub (where he had been arrested previously) rather than lying low. My solicitor, his solicitor, the police, the cps, the DV team were all telling me they had NEVER heard of this happening before.
This was is 2022.

To be fair, in proportion to the prison population and annual releases numbers it's not that common.

However with the recent increase in releases under the short sentence scheme, the number of people being released has jumped and therefore the errors have also arisen in part because of confusion over sentence calculations.

The problem for HMPPS, MOJ and the government is that prison is grossly underfunded, staff are frequently poorly trained and badly managed, morale is on the floor and retention rates are appalling.

This being so high profile will do nothing to help change much except beat a few prison officers over the head for letting them leave despite umpteen layers of managers having responsibility for the process of calculating sentences and checking releases before the prisoners get to the gates.

And now I better NC.....

EasternStandard · 05/11/2025 17:17

So bad. Even worse that Lammy deflected in HoC on this. Gaslighting as per.

charliehungerford · 05/11/2025 17:24

Swiftasthewind · 05/11/2025 14:22

Prison doesn’t work anyway so everybody should be released. The only way to solve crime is through education and community outreach, if people felt valued they wouldn’t do bad things.

That’s a very idealistic and rather naive opinion. Prison doesn’t work for everyone and a lot of people shouldn’t be there, but there are some individuals who are very evil depraved people, sometimes it’s a result of terrible parenting, but some of them are just bad. No matter how well they are treated they won’t change.

RecordBreakers · 05/11/2025 17:26

GetOffTheRoof · 05/11/2025 16:02

280ish released in error in the last year, but over 50,000 releases were managed successfully.

Context is important. Errors will always be made by humans.

Particularly humans that are overstretched, understaffed, and exhausted

MushMonster · 05/11/2025 17:28

You just cannot make this stuff up! No words, only shock!!!!!!!

ginasevern · 05/11/2025 17:29

Swiftasthewind · 05/11/2025 14:22

Prison doesn’t work anyway so everybody should be released. The only way to solve crime is through education and community outreach, if people felt valued they wouldn’t do bad things.

Are you saying that rapists rape because they feel undervalued? That serial killers kill and torture because they don't "feel the love" or that paedophiles watch horrific child abuse videos because they grew up in poverty? Whilst I totally agree that some crimes are due to depravation this is definitely not the case for all crime. There are wicked people in this world who simply like to hurt or violate other humans and animals and no amount of outreach is ever going to stop that. Sadly this is a fact.

barskits · 05/11/2025 17:30

Swiftasthewind · 05/11/2025 14:22

Prison doesn’t work anyway so everybody should be released. The only way to solve crime is through education and community outreach, if people felt valued they wouldn’t do bad things.

Confused

If only it were that simple.

kirinm · 05/11/2025 17:32

Porridgespoon · 05/11/2025 14:18

I think this happens a lot. It's just become news for some reason recently.

It’s become news because it supports the anti-immigration rhetoric. It’s bizarre that it happens but it’s happened for years.

MrsCat1 · 05/11/2025 17:33

There are always and will always be people who are erroneously released from prison. It’s called human error. Yes additional checks have been mandated since the last headline grabbing early release but many prisons are dreadfully under-staffed and the system is incredibly complex. Calculating release takes a huge amount of training and expertise and rules are constantly changing. Like all our public services prisons are in a state of near collapse.

Bobiverse · 05/11/2025 17:36

They do this a couple hundred times every year. Why are you so shocked? Is it just because it’s being widely reported now instead of being buried away as a sentence or two in the news? Maybe pay more attention.

EasternStandard · 05/11/2025 17:38

kirinm · 05/11/2025 17:32

It’s become news because it supports the anti-immigration rhetoric. It’s bizarre that it happens but it’s happened for years.

Why are you ok with it?