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Warning may be triggering. Dead babies and children found buried at a mother and baby home.

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JumpingDizzy · 16/06/2025 10:00

https://news.sky.com/story/opening-the-pit-dig-for-remains-of-800-infants-at-former-mother-and-baby-home-in-ireland-begins-13384111?fbclid=IwY2xjawK8u-lleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHgUPrwYkbmXCChH4Ui1Exg74o4R_g_IkR_YxKjPmCMAcOcuChqMHQe6pYD33_aem_Vnyw43j-5ZxaIm4IE5cTsA

How horrific 😢 I've heard of cruelty by nuns but this is off the scale.

Dig for remains of 800 infants at former 'mother and baby home' in Ireland begins

The remains of almost 800 babies and children are believed to be buried under a former 'mother and baby home' in Tuam, with many believed to have been dumped into a sewage tank that was dubbed "the pit".

https://news.sky.com/story/opening-the-pit-dig-for-remains-of-800-infants-at-former-mother-and-baby-home-in-ireland-begins-13384111?fbclid=IwY2xjawK8u-lleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHgUPrwYkbmXCChH4Ui1Exg74o4R_g_IkR_YxKjPmCMAcOcuChqMHQe6pYD33_aem_Vnyw43j-5ZxaIm4IE5cTsA

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Anon501178 · 16/06/2025 22:07

Abra1t · 16/06/2025 22:04

This came out ten years ago and was the final straw for me. I stopped being a catholic and stopped taking my daughter, then about 15, to mass. I very quickly lost my faith, which was shaky anyway. The week this news broke, they had the bloody white rose collection for SPUC at mass.

Yes I'm also glad I've turned my back on that horrible religion after being brainwashed into following it as a child.Thats not to say of course there are many nice people who are Catholic, however the religion is corrupt in so many ways.

ZebraPyjamas · 16/06/2025 22:07

Wildbird12 · 16/06/2025 21:31

My aunt was a Nun - she has since died. She used to say that these mothers had no where else to go...they were told to leave their homes by their families. If the Nuns hadn't taken them in where would they go? It was a cruel time and the church had such a stranglehold on society.

I’m glad you said this. These pregnant women were thrown out by their families, these mother & baby homes were a product of society at the time, not just the Catholic Church at fault here

RowsOfFlowers · 16/06/2025 22:08

Witchypooforyou · 16/06/2025 22:06

It should I agree. People high in power have covered this up and protected people. I mean if the Catholic Church can cover things like this up, other “public sectors” will have too.

Precisely. This needs more coverage. A documentary. A film. It needs to be known.

JuneJane · 16/06/2025 22:09

RowsOfFlowers · 16/06/2025 22:08

Precisely. This needs more coverage. A documentary. A film. It needs to be known.

There are documentaries and films on YouTube.

Witchypooforyou · 16/06/2025 22:09
Sinead O Connor Snl GIF by GIPHY News

The brave Sinead O’Connor talked about the abuse the Catholic Church was complicit in and looked how she was treated.

Sofiewoo · 16/06/2025 22:11

Gogreengoblin · 16/06/2025 21:38

Thanks for the info from the poster that talked about her mother's experience, other than that account of hers, is there any other reason of why this might have happened?
This occurance is so obviously morally wrong and goes against what Catholic nuns are supposed to uphold.
Very strange.

It’s not really that strange when you look at the treatment of women by the church across Ireland, and beyond. This is by no means the only home where nuns treated women this way.

Pyjamatimenow · 16/06/2025 22:11

I remember watching that film when I was young and being horrified. I think probably the reality was more horrifying based on this

RowsOfFlowers · 16/06/2025 22:11

JuneJane · 16/06/2025 22:09

There are documentaries and films on YouTube.

Oh I didn’t know that.

Lindajonesjustcantlivemylife · 16/06/2025 22:11

Religion has a lot to answer for in it's various guises

justasking111 · 16/06/2025 22:12

A rep who visited my DH factory taking and reselling out of date plant. Went to a Magdalene Laundry to sell and install recommissioned washing machine from industrial laundries.

He told DH it was an absolutely chilling place that gave him the creeps so much misery.

Witchypooforyou · 16/06/2025 22:13

RowsOfFlowers · 16/06/2025 22:08

Precisely. This needs more coverage. A documentary. A film. It needs to be known.

There has been, I talked earlier about Spotlight which won two Oscar’s it was about the priests in Boston I think, raping young boys and the church covering it up, and the journalists that’s uncovered the story. Many films and documentaries about this from all over the world have been made sadly.

JuneJane · 16/06/2025 22:13

ZebraPyjamas · 16/06/2025 22:07

I’m glad you said this. These pregnant women were thrown out by their families, these mother & baby homes were a product of society at the time, not just the Catholic Church at fault here

Often the parish priest would force families to give their daughters up. It happened in England as well. Abortion was decriminalised in England in 1967 and many Irish women took the ferry to England to get abortions.

Sofiewoo · 16/06/2025 22:13

ZebraPyjamas · 16/06/2025 22:07

I’m glad you said this. These pregnant women were thrown out by their families, these mother & baby homes were a product of society at the time, not just the Catholic Church at fault here

Society was absolutely dominated and controlled by the church at this time and the church was completely responsible for the impact it had on society.

Witchypooforyou · 16/06/2025 22:14

Lindajonesjustcantlivemylife · 16/06/2025 22:11

Religion has a lot to answer for in it's various guises

Controlling women and sexual abuse of children are the main ones and murder.

JuneJane · 16/06/2025 22:14

Witchypooforyou · 16/06/2025 22:13

There has been, I talked earlier about Spotlight which won two Oscar’s it was about the priests in Boston I think, raping young boys and the church covering it up, and the journalists that’s uncovered the story. Many films and documentaries about this from all over the world have been made sadly.

Song for a Raggy Boy - tragic film based on the abuse of boys by the Christian Brothers.

JuneJane · 16/06/2025 22:15

Sofiewoo · 16/06/2025 22:13

Society was absolutely dominated and controlled by the church at this time and the church was completely responsible for the impact it had on society.

It was forced to apologise (in Ireland) in 2021.

Witchypooforyou · 16/06/2025 22:17

JuneJane · 16/06/2025 22:14

Song for a Raggy Boy - tragic film based on the abuse of boys by the Christian Brothers.

I’ll have a look into that, thanks. It makes me so fucking angry that this is still happening and these monsters are getting away with it.

JuneJane · 16/06/2025 22:17

The Irish government implemented a redress scheme, also known as a compensation scheme, for survivors of the Magdalene Laundries. This scheme provides "ex gratia" payments, enhanced medical cards, and a right to a State Pension (Contributory). The payments are not dependent on proof of specific harm or abuse, and range from €11,500 for those who spent three months or less in a laundry to a maximum of €100,000 for those who spent ten years or more.

Key features of the redress scheme include:
"Ex Gratia" Payments: Lump sum payments are offered based on the length of time spent in the laundry.
Enhanced Medical Cards: Survivors are entitled to a "HAA card," similar to those provided to women infected with Hepatitis C through blood donations.
State Pension (Contributory): Survivors are entitled to a State Pension (Contributory).
Advocacy Support: If survivors are living in institutionalised settings (e.g., nursing homes), they are entitled to an advocate.
Dedicated Unit: A government unit provides support and advice to survivors.

The scheme aims to acknowledge the suffering endured by survivors and provide some form of redress for the injustices they faced in these workhouses.

justasking111 · 16/06/2025 22:20

There was a place outside Wallingford in Berkshire called the Fairmile hospital. Inside those walls were women considered mad. They'd been placed there as young women because they got pregnant, they were considered depraved so locked away. Their babies taken away. My mother said that they did become mad, institutionalised because of the terrible thing that had been done to them.

As kids we were scared to even cycle past deciding it was haunted.

JuneJane · 16/06/2025 22:21

Westfacing · 16/06/2025 18:16

Have any of the nuns in these cases every been prosecuted over the years - or even questioned?

Various male clerics have faced justice around the world, but I've never read of any Irish nuns facing the music for the terrible treatment they meted out to these young girls and their babies.

The Bon Secours Sisters, who ran the Tuam mother and baby home in Ireland, made a financial contribution of €12.97 million to a compensation scheme for survivors. This contribution was deemed a "meaningful" one by the negotiator, according to gov.ie. The Sisters also issued a formal apology for their role in the home, acknowledging the poor treatment of women and children, and the disrespectful burial of infants.

None have been prosecuted as far as I am aware.

Publication of report on Negotiations with Religious Organisations associated with Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme

https://www.gov.ie/en/department-of-children-disability-and-equality/press-releases/publication-of-report-on-negotiations-with-religious-organisations-associated-with-mother-and-baby-institutions-payment-scheme/

HedwigIsMySpiritAnimal · 16/06/2025 22:24

Treaclewell · 16/06/2025 19:10

To be fair, but not very, those nuns included women who were sent there without real choice. Rather like women sent for life into mental hospitals because they looked at boys in their teens. Not surprising they went bad as they did not have the benefits of a religious calling.

A “religious calling” doesn’t make someone good.

Lindajonesjustcantlivemylife · 16/06/2025 22:24

justasking111 · 16/06/2025 22:20

There was a place outside Wallingford in Berkshire called the Fairmile hospital. Inside those walls were women considered mad. They'd been placed there as young women because they got pregnant, they were considered depraved so locked away. Their babies taken away. My mother said that they did become mad, institutionalised because of the terrible thing that had been done to them.

As kids we were scared to even cycle past deciding it was haunted.

Nazareth house in Aberdeen had same reputation.

JuneJane · 16/06/2025 22:26

justasking111 · 16/06/2025 22:20

There was a place outside Wallingford in Berkshire called the Fairmile hospital. Inside those walls were women considered mad. They'd been placed there as young women because they got pregnant, they were considered depraved so locked away. Their babies taken away. My mother said that they did become mad, institutionalised because of the terrible thing that had been done to them.

As kids we were scared to even cycle past deciding it was haunted.

Under the Mental Defectives Act girls and women could be institutionalised for decades, One reason was trying to abort babies and another was attempting suicide. Attempted suicide was a crime and a mortal sin. The suicide rate in Ireland is still high, because people are terrified of seeking help.

JuneJane · 16/06/2025 22:28

HedwigIsMySpiritAnimal · 16/06/2025 22:24

A “religious calling” doesn’t make someone good.

Many women, once they realised they would never escape, became nuns because they would be fed properly and treated slightly better than the “penitents” slaving away for scraps of food.

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