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cherie blair and her book...is there no escape..

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DeeRiguer · 19/05/2008 10:20

serialised in the times, quoted on the news, columnist inches filled with it and argghhh just managed to hit the off button before she reads it out on R4

she must have right good publicist and imo a real brass neck...

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TheFallenMadonna · 19/05/2008 11:35

Sorry DG, but "showed her roots"?

Another reason why I want to like her TBH. Same as whenever someone uses the words "tacky" or "vulgar"...

OrmIrian · 19/05/2008 11:36

I do agree that there were reasons to admire her, in principal. For ages I used to pull myself up when I started to critise her for something she'd done/said. But then her own personality intervened . It's all very well for her to be flawed - who isn't, but a bit of self-awareness and humility might make her bearable.

DumbledoresGirl · 19/05/2008 11:36

What is wrong with that? She comes from a brash and showy background doesnt she?

frogs · 19/05/2008 11:37

I wanted to like her too, for all the reasons other people have mentioned. And I did like her for a good long while after 1997.

But I find I can't any longer, for all the reasons LP mentions in her article. And the extracts from the book that I haven't managed to avoid just come across as indiscreet and vulgar. And badly-written, which is hard to forgive also.

FluffyMummy123 · 19/05/2008 11:38

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IorekByrnison · 19/05/2008 11:40

Nothing unsisterly about calling her "vile". She has a vile attitude imo. As does her husband.

doggiesayswoof · 19/05/2008 11:43

I do KWYM 100x and I don't like the name calling, but my god have you heard the bits from the book?

She had time to reflect on what to put in there, and it's so tasteless

Where is her dignity?

WendyWeber · 19/05/2008 11:46

Her roots are nothing like what she represents them to be, supposedly, TFM (nice middle-class upbringing in Crosby).

I used to admire her but, assuming the extracts are as written (and by her), have lost the lot. (I can't believe she thinks that Bella-style is OK!!!)

I wonder if TB tried to stop her including any of the cringe-making stuff?

castille · 19/05/2008 11:52

For a very intelligent woman, she comes across as so staggeringly naive and clueless at times that I'm a bit confused as to what she is really like

ahundredtimes · 19/05/2008 12:02

I think she was damned if she did and damned if she didn't.

She must have resented the intrusion - we all WOULD wouldn't we - and then made bad decisions about what to do about it.

Do you sit there and take it? Or do you go out and try to set the agenda, and fight back a bit and decide to do public speaking? And how do you balance your own desire for attention and your own WILD insecurity, with the expectation that you are a clothes horse, or should just shuddup.

I don't think she's vile. I think that's a horrible thing to say. I think she just makes consistently bad decisions about most things. That's her flaw.

TheFallenMadonna · 19/05/2008 12:05

I don't care what her roots are.

That's the point.

Piffle · 19/05/2008 12:07

I've met her and I think she is 10 times the person her shark faced husband is...
But am sailing a lone ship here it seems.

ahundredtimes · 19/05/2008 12:08

Oh no, I'm in the tug boat behind Piffle.

doggiesayswoof · 19/05/2008 12:08

I am arfing at the idea that Tony might have tried to get her to tone down some of the embarrassing bits.

That man lost any judgement he might have once had a long time ago.

FluffyMummy123 · 19/05/2008 12:09

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TheFallenMadonna · 19/05/2008 12:09

Oh me too. Although I have my life jacket on in case of needing to abandon ship...

ahundredtimes · 19/05/2008 12:12

[holds FM's hand on the deck]

She is deeply imperfect, we all are, just her imperfections have been played out on a larger stage. And it isn't really a stage that has much room for female insecurities is it?

Miggsie · 19/05/2008 12:14

Blaming the queen having servants for concieving a child is MAD. It is also tasteless mentioning it all in such detail. Why not just say what a surprise it was, not go into the nitty gritty?

What contraceptive device does she use that she can't pop it in her handbag or spongbag in a little pouch???!
Have I got News for you were brilliant...Paul Merton said she used an inflateable priest, whihc is why it was so big it had to go in a handbag.

I must admit I don't warm to her, she talks about fighting injustice and sticking up for the poor one minute yet acts like the most money grubbing and insensitive type of social climber the next.

Top of her total lack of empathy must be the comment that taking away free grants to students was a shame but necessary while saying if SHE had not had a free 100% student grant, she could never have taken her law degree and ended up in a job paying shed loads of cash.

she baffles me, and I just can't warm to her.
Both the Blairs lack basic humility but Tony covered it up better, and for far longer.

Ooh, and Norma Major, she was SMART and got her own way without courting trashy press headlines. Admire her style, would not want to be on her guest list tho'?!

TheDevilWearsPenneys · 19/05/2008 12:17

icod no true. loads of people talk about being 'yorkshire' or a 'cocnkey'.

TheFallenMadonna · 19/05/2008 12:18

Ah yes, "social climber", forgot to mention that along with "vulgar" and "tacky" as expressions that make me go Grrrrrr...

ahundredtimes · 19/05/2008 12:18

Norma wasn't that smart. She had horrible things said about her - and was made to be a bit of a national joke wasn't she?

Cherie Blair must just have decided to try and play it another way - and that didn't work either.

See, damned if you do and damned if you don't.

TheDevilWearsPenneys · 19/05/2008 12:19

If I were her I'd go back to a quiet life and let my husband exploit people who pay to listen to his exemplary opinions on running a country.

TigerFeet · 19/05/2008 12:19

I think it must have been very difficult for her to adjust to her sudden fame and the resultant public interest. She has clearly worked very hard to get to the top of her field which she did under her own name, then all of a sudden she is Mrs Blair rather than Ms Booth QC and her life is upside down. Given her own high'flying career I think it would have been very difficult for her to keep her head down a la Norma Major as I would think she sees herself very much as a person in her own right as opposed to being simply the wife and arm candy of a top politician.

That said, I didn't need to know the exact whereabouts and circumstances of Leo's conception and I rather suspect that Leo himself would rather it wasn't in the public domain.

I agree with those who say that they would like to be able to like her, but she makes it difficult to do so.

ahundredtimes · 19/05/2008 12:20

But Scousers ABSOLUTELY top of the list DWP.

Without doubt.

Scousers
Yorkshire
Welsh
Cockney.

Actually the Welsh are above the Yorkshire people - but it's a close run thing.

TigerFeet · 19/05/2008 12:26

Disagree re scousers..

My mum is a scouser. Had she passed her 11+ she would have gone to the same school as Cherie - two of my aunts were at the same school and one of them was in Cherie's year.

My mum has made it her life's work to get rid of her accent (largely succeeded) and has made it her life's work to make sure that her children never had one (again largely succeeded).

She is an utter snob

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